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(6-apb /various doses) - Experienced - "From underwhelmed to overwhelmed"

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6-apb (various doses) - Experienced - "From underwhelmed to overwhelmed"

Here I'd like to sum up my major two experiences with 6-apb.
Although the experiences where mixed up with other substances I think this can contribute to the existing knowledge-base of 6-apb.

One of the two experiences is based on the pure powder as well as on the pellet powder (pellets that I crushed).

The pellet powder was of the first batch of pellets available. I knew about the different sizes and the differences of the compound content.
So I just crushed all 10 pellets I got (from one packet) and mixed the powder thoroughly.
Whenever I mention the pellet powder in my report I am referring to that stuff.

The pure powder was also of the first commonly known batch of (real) 6-apb powder (NOT from UK).

Incident 1: Meet friends and end up in a club

I decided to meet some friends at their house. This seemed to be a nice chance to try the 6-apb powder.
I made one capsule of the powder (110 mg) as well as one capsule containing 250 mg pellet powder (in case the real powder would be too less).

Prior to ingestion of the real powder I had a really extensive meal.

T+0h: Ingesting the real powder capsule. Had one or two glasses of red wine before I left to meet the friends

T+1h: Arrived at friends, talked, felt quite normal

T+2h: Thought about a risen talkativeness, could also have been placebo effect. Friends decided to go to a bar.

T+3h: Nothing going on really, and before heading up to the bar I ingested the pellet powder capsule.

T+4h: They are playing music at the bar, meet very old friends, feel quite great (very relaxed, in a good party mood, very talkative).
Other friends arrive to my surprise and some of them decide to visit a techno club, they ask me to join and whoops I sit in the cab heading to the club.

T+5h: Arrive at the club. Music is not that great, but we are getting the best out of the party. Dancing goes well, but not as seamlessly as on mandy. Smoking desire is only slightly increased.
One thing to mention: At one point my friends left for a short time (maybe 10 mins.) and I stood alone at the smoking area. On mandy I would normally just talk to random foreigners and find new acquaintances within minutes.
Not so with 6-apb. I felt a bit uncomfortable beeing alone there, and was a little bit paranoid (are they looking at me?? no problem for me though, I know how to handle such drug induced side effects).
After the friends returned party went on but we finally settled down for a loooong talk at the chill out area. Not tired at all.

T+9h: Returned to friends house for after party. 6-apb high slowly vanished, but no noticable comedown.
Remember: Last dose at t+3 and until then no urge to redose. Nevertheless I wanted to perfect the morning with 10mg 2C-E for chilling ;-)

Conclusion:
I was pretty underwhelmed. Not only that I had to dose approxmately 200mg of 6-apb (remember: the pellet powder probably contains 100mg 6-apb per 300mg powder) but I also did not get a real "rush" as
I would have estimated it with this MDA-like substance. But I was enjoyably surprised by the very long very good party mood induced by 6-apb.


Incident 2: Morphin' Freakin' What the fuck MDA-like experience

A friend of mine visited me for a chat.

During talking we decided to dose some Methylone. At that point I realized that this would turn out to be a very long night and already decided to ingest a higher dose of 6-abp powder whilst my friend
would stick to the Methylone all night.

T+0h: Dosed a capsule of roughly 250mg Methylone

T+0.5h: As expected, the Methylone hit me hard, talk with friend goes on easily. Wife notices my strong chaw clenching and laughs. I dose 220mg of 6-abp powder.

T+1h: Methylone rush slowly decreases, nevertheless have a very productive chat with friend (talking about IT business)

T+2h: Against my expectation, I already feel the 6-ABP. It is slowly coming up in waves. I especially feel it at my head area (a certain preasure/weight on my forehead)

T+2.5h: This really starts hitting me hard. The chat with my friend got one-sided: He talks and I (try) to follow. It still comes up in (strong) waves

T+3 - T+4: What the fuck?? This pushes me into the seat like no other substance since the good old 90's MDA pills. I have thoughts of "could this be too strong?" which I did not have since ages.
Not to get me wrong, I feel great but rolling & tripping balls at once.

T+4h: There they are!!! The gloriously famous MDA like visuals: My friend in front of my eyes morphes to a heavy metal guy (he actually is short haired), to another friend of mine, back to himself...
I cannot follow his talks in any way, I just nod ;-) This is a very trippy state of mind. Definitely not for clubbing (at least not nowadays with that age, in earlier days I was looking for such a state of mind at festivals ;-)

T+5h: The rush slowly fades away, but still comes up from time to time in waves.

T+6h: I redose 250mg of Methylone which I barely notice.

T+7h - T+14h: Relatively awake and physically fit until I get tired and am able to sleep.

Conclusion:
There is a good chance that Methylone combines well with 6-abp. Even though I would not recommend this combination, and more important, this high dose of 6-abp to unexperienced users at non-save settings.
This is only for the hard headed, 90's pills accustomed, synapse-truncated guys.
For me at least, this was the best MDA-like experience since ages.
Strange was anyways that, despite of the higher dose, the actual rush did not last longer than during my previous experience.
Also, the pure powder is so much a different (and better) substance than the pellets (from my personal experiences I can tell).
 
Great report! Enjoyed part 2 very much. Can safely say I have had similar experience with high doses of 6-apb and especially 5-apb (6 being more manageable than 5). The point at which conversation becomes impossible is the time to put on the seatbelt and enjoy the ride. Definitely not as social as MDMA, but damned fine high.

The quality of the 6-apb powder has increased noticeably recently, so take care with dosing. Combos of 5/6 also fun. Enjoy.
 
How much do you weigh? How much time lapsed inbetween the two experiences?

Thanks for the info.
 
I weigh ~90kg and in between the experiences passed at least 4 weeks.

Thanks. So you'd say 220mg is a bit of a high dose? I am going to order some 6-apb soon (actually now i'm interested in 5-apb also) and weigh about 180lbs which is... (using google converter)... around 82kg and would prob start with 170-180mg. What do you think?

I have never done MDA (although have drooled over the thought) but have done plenty of high doses of MDMA, 4-FA, Methylone, and generally like slightly overwhelming experiences my first few times with a new substance.

Also, since you've done both 5-abp and 6-abp could you give me some specifics on the differences in feeling, duration, after effects, etc..?

Thanks

edit: I mixed up your post and tragiclemming's regarding the 5-apb. Tragic, can you give me some specifics on the difference between the two?
 
edit: I mixed up your post and tragiclemming's regarding the 5-apb. Tragic, can you give me some specifics on the difference between the two?
I prefer 6 over 5. There is a noticeable difference between them IME. 5 gives a really nice body high initially and progresses into a tripped out headspace without much euphoria. Hard to communicate on higher doses and a little sedating (1000 yard stares!). 6 more euphoric and colourful. Closer to MDMA without the ultimate bliss, but with better qualities like long duration and mild come down.

So you'd say 220mg is a bit of a high dose?
For a compound you've never tried it is too high. Start around 100 - 120mg. It won't kick your ass, but you'll get a good idea of potential. For 5-apb start lower (maybe 100mg).
 
I have been trying to tell everyone for months that the real 6-APB is no joke. It is a beautiful substance that has to dosed properly. The peak is like a dream...full closed eye entactogen bliss wtih euphoria that has to be searched for a bit. Once you find it it is lovely.
 
Guys, does the powder around at the moment have the horrific residual stimulation that the original pellets had?
 
I have been trying to tell everyone for months that the real 6-APB is no joke. It is a beautiful substance that has to dosed properly. The peak is like a dream...full closed eye entactogen bliss wtih euphoria that has to be searched for a bit. Once you find it it is lovely.
Yep. It is one of the nicest compounds I have ever experienced. When the quality is good (and now it is excellent) I have no desire to take anything else, even passing on good quality MDMA which is not like me at all!
 
i have no experience with 6-APB unfortunately but lots of experience with MDA. when i read the "good" and "shining" reports of 6-APB it sounds identical to MDA. the only difference is the steep dose curve where 6-APB is underwhelming at a certain dose, MDA is a brute-force type experience that is just straight up intense. aside from that they sound identical from what i've read.


how is the stimulation of 6-APB compared to MDA?
 
I've had a lot of experience with psychedelics, mdma, methylone and mephedrone (like all very much). Didn't like methoxetamine much...still trying to find the sweet spot dose wise. I've been interested in 6-apb for a while but been put off by the price/lack of trustworthy reports.

Are we now at the stage where the quality is pretty much uniform from most vendors? If so is pill form preferable to powder form, or is there little difference?

Thanks
 
Are we now at the stage where the quality is pretty much uniform from most vendors? If so is pill form preferable to powder form, or is there little difference?

Thanks


I've tried em both 5 and 6 in both power and pellet form. There does seem to be a difference, if anything the rushes off the pills are more pronounced... I don't know why tho, because the overall effects are the same, the only thing i can think of is absorption rates may be affected. But anyway it seems that reliable vendors are all selling 5 ad 6 apb from the same batches which currently, are top notch (in particular the 5apb IMO)
 
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I've tried em both 5 and 6 in both power and pellet form. There does seem to be a difference, if anything the rushes off the pills are more pronounced... I don't know why tho, because the overall effects are the same, the only thing i can think of is absorption rates may be affected. But anyway it seems that reliable vendors are all selling 5 ad 6 apb from the same batches which currently, are top notch (in particular the 5apb IMO)

Cheers...in what way do you find 5-apb preferable?
 
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