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brimz
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@ Blondin The best place i've been in europe 4 Junk is Porto.
They get the stuff B4 we do n theirs a decent open air scene over their . 5euro .2 but it's the quality thats so much better easily 50/60 % average sometimes better .
Not sure how badly they have been effected , cos theirs a hell of alot of users in that city.
They get the stuff B4 we do n theirs a decent open air scene over their . 5euro .2 but it's the quality thats so much better easily 50/60 % average sometimes better .
Not sure how badly they have been effected , cos theirs a hell of alot of users in that city.
Charlie Clean
Hey Louis, Runctions Ian Paisley is a great man.
Thanks for the educating me Charlie.
Ironically, the Catholics were fighting the Protestants during the troubles. I think that the Irish Catholics in Ulster were feeling marginalized, but it seems like the troubles also had an ethnic component. Its my understanding "protestants" were actually settelers from Britain that the crown sent over to Ireland to solidify their hold on the Island.
Anyway, just got back from New York. Its an exciting city but I find myself happy to be back in San Diego- its a beautiful city we live in. I don't know if the program has been stoped but several hundred irish would come here every summer and stay in pacific beach- a place that has alot of young people. I don't know if it was sponsored by the government or some other entity but this program was in place as recently as the summer of 05 or 06.
I saw a nat geo documentary called camp leatherneck about the main USMC base in the Helmand province. On the documentary a few marines standing over dried, previously scared poppy pods stated that its not there mission to go after poppy farmers- in the USAs hearts and minds campaign, farmers are often valuable allies providing infi on IEDs and Taliban movements in exchange for US protection and we all know what the major crop is. I think the UK is worried about the opium crop. I think the USA's worried about the Taliban's share but stamping out opium is not its primary mission. Still Obama's war strategists- MCrystal, Patreus, the former Sec of Def, had opium eradication and crop substitution as part of their "nation building plan," in Bob Woodward's book on the war.
This summer would give every indication of resuming supplies based on reports I hear. London and Brum are probably the Hubs for gear comming in. Don't know if anyone read my first link but its a good model for how the dope market works- its actually an interesting read. I predict it will just take some time to get throughout the markets of the British Isles.
Its kinda Ironic that the Republic of Ireland gained its Independence only to be re joined together to it in effect with the establishment of the EU.
The One region of the British Isles that I haven't seen too much posted about is about the dope scene in Ulster. You would think that it would be bomming in Belfast and Londonderry after years of trauma anyone know about the situation in Ulster? If there was a scene of any note in Belfast?
As for Irish Americans and the War on Drugs- Joseph McNamara, Chief of police in San Jose started out as a cop in NYC. He is of Irish-Ancestery. As I mentioned previously he is a sharp critic of prohibition and the drug war. But what sets him appart is that unlike most of the contemporary critics of the drug war that are ex cops, or ex judges, or ex politicians, he did so at a time when it wasn't fashionable to do so in this country- in the 80s during the 80s years and he had the courage to do so while holding his office. This was even before the Frankfurt Resolution and the Zurich Needle Park experiment which started in 1986. The two other major critics were the mayors of Baltimore and Washington, DC. The latter was marion Barry who unfortunately got taped in an FBI sting smoking crack with Hookers in a Hotel. That kinda effected his credibility alittle but he served a 6 month jail term in the early 90s and was then reelected as mayor of this nations capital for one more term! I think his slogan was "Marion aint perfect but he's perfect for DC."
In Chief McNamaras case is was able to express his views on the drug war and keep his job because there are alot of intelligent people in the bay area (it has the highest concentration of noble prize winners, and i belive pulitzer prize winners of any region in the world. One needs to be easily brainwashed and unable to think for themselves to subscribe to drug prohibitions punitive approach. Conversely, those of us who don't buy into drug propaganda tend to be people capable of creative, independent, and critical thinking.
My wife is of Welsh, English, and "Scotch-Irish" decent. I thought she had Irish blood because of her temper but it turned out that the Scotch-Irish was the name given to the Ulster protestants that moved here. The UDA arent saints either.
But anyway I know that there was plenty of gear throughout Britain in the UK but how was the scene in N. Ireland before the drought. You would think that it would be decent being part of the UK and with the influx of immigrants over the last 10-20 years.
Blondin
Based upon what I heard about the drought of 2001 it would seem that after afgahnistan was invaded and the opium started flowing again- growers selling opium at a discount to pay creditors that it became a buyers mountain again in time... by 02' probaly improving through 07'? If thats correct and brown is staring to flow again then it will be a matter of time before things are back to normal. Usally prices take a while to fall- in this country gas prices sometimes stay high even after supplies of petroleum are restored and prices for crude fall. Eventaually enough supply comes in that price wars ensue and the price of petrol falls. The price is high now like 08' but the price ended up being cut in half by the recession it caused. The drought probaly caused a number of users to quit. Less demand when price resumes means more competition for fewer customers hence better price and quality.
unscrupulous dealers will sell bashed over priced gear as long as they can get away with it.
Brimz
So your the culprit eh Brimz!
%)
Hey Louis, Runctions Ian Paisley is a great man.
Thanks for the educating me Charlie.
Ironically, the Catholics were fighting the Protestants during the troubles. I think that the Irish Catholics in Ulster were feeling marginalized, but it seems like the troubles also had an ethnic component. Its my understanding "protestants" were actually settelers from Britain that the crown sent over to Ireland to solidify their hold on the Island.
Anyway, just got back from New York. Its an exciting city but I find myself happy to be back in San Diego- its a beautiful city we live in. I don't know if the program has been stoped but several hundred irish would come here every summer and stay in pacific beach- a place that has alot of young people. I don't know if it was sponsored by the government or some other entity but this program was in place as recently as the summer of 05 or 06.
I saw a nat geo documentary called camp leatherneck about the main USMC base in the Helmand province. On the documentary a few marines standing over dried, previously scared poppy pods stated that its not there mission to go after poppy farmers- in the USAs hearts and minds campaign, farmers are often valuable allies providing infi on IEDs and Taliban movements in exchange for US protection and we all know what the major crop is. I think the UK is worried about the opium crop. I think the USA's worried about the Taliban's share but stamping out opium is not its primary mission. Still Obama's war strategists- MCrystal, Patreus, the former Sec of Def, had opium eradication and crop substitution as part of their "nation building plan," in Bob Woodward's book on the war.
This summer would give every indication of resuming supplies based on reports I hear. London and Brum are probably the Hubs for gear comming in. Don't know if anyone read my first link but its a good model for how the dope market works- its actually an interesting read. I predict it will just take some time to get throughout the markets of the British Isles.
Its kinda Ironic that the Republic of Ireland gained its Independence only to be re joined together to it in effect with the establishment of the EU.
The One region of the British Isles that I haven't seen too much posted about is about the dope scene in Ulster. You would think that it would be bomming in Belfast and Londonderry after years of trauma anyone know about the situation in Ulster? If there was a scene of any note in Belfast?
As for Irish Americans and the War on Drugs- Joseph McNamara, Chief of police in San Jose started out as a cop in NYC. He is of Irish-Ancestery. As I mentioned previously he is a sharp critic of prohibition and the drug war. But what sets him appart is that unlike most of the contemporary critics of the drug war that are ex cops, or ex judges, or ex politicians, he did so at a time when it wasn't fashionable to do so in this country- in the 80s during the 80s years and he had the courage to do so while holding his office. This was even before the Frankfurt Resolution and the Zurich Needle Park experiment which started in 1986. The two other major critics were the mayors of Baltimore and Washington, DC. The latter was marion Barry who unfortunately got taped in an FBI sting smoking crack with Hookers in a Hotel. That kinda effected his credibility alittle but he served a 6 month jail term in the early 90s and was then reelected as mayor of this nations capital for one more term! I think his slogan was "Marion aint perfect but he's perfect for DC."
In Chief McNamaras case is was able to express his views on the drug war and keep his job because there are alot of intelligent people in the bay area (it has the highest concentration of noble prize winners, and i belive pulitzer prize winners of any region in the world. One needs to be easily brainwashed and unable to think for themselves to subscribe to drug prohibitions punitive approach. Conversely, those of us who don't buy into drug propaganda tend to be people capable of creative, independent, and critical thinking.
My wife is of Welsh, English, and "Scotch-Irish" decent. I thought she had Irish blood because of her temper but it turned out that the Scotch-Irish was the name given to the Ulster protestants that moved here. The UDA arent saints either.
But anyway I know that there was plenty of gear throughout Britain in the UK but how was the scene in N. Ireland before the drought. You would think that it would be decent being part of the UK and with the influx of immigrants over the last 10-20 years.
Blondin
....trip 2 the moonI used to argue with a mate about it being a buyer's not a seller's market, so if someone had shite you would move on. I can't believe my argument eventually came back to bite me on the arse...
Based upon what I heard about the drought of 2001 it would seem that after afgahnistan was invaded and the opium started flowing again- growers selling opium at a discount to pay creditors that it became a buyers mountain again in time... by 02' probaly improving through 07'? If thats correct and brown is staring to flow again then it will be a matter of time before things are back to normal. Usally prices take a while to fall- in this country gas prices sometimes stay high even after supplies of petroleum are restored and prices for crude fall. Eventaually enough supply comes in that price wars ensue and the price of petrol falls. The price is high now like 08' but the price ended up being cut in half by the recession it caused. The drought probaly caused a number of users to quit. Less demand when price resumes means more competition for fewer customers hence better price and quality.
unscrupulous dealers will sell bashed over priced gear as long as they can get away with it.
Brimz
So your the culprit eh Brimz!
%)Blondin
So true. Another favorite quote is that,' If God made anything better than speedballs he kept it for himself." Riiiinnnggg.
Speaking of Speed Charlie....So methamphetamine has hit the market. Was always wondering why it hadn't replaced amphetamine sulfate/paste given the more euphoric high and easier synthetic technique (need less watched chemicals).
So true. Another favorite quote is that,' If God made anything better than speedballs he kept it for himself."
Riiiinnnggg.Speaking of Speed Charlie....So methamphetamine has hit the market. Was always wondering why it hadn't replaced amphetamine sulfate/paste given the more euphoric high and easier synthetic technique (need less watched chemicals).
kkattastic
Bluelighter
price rises always get passed on down the chain
it's no secret what i do to get £££s
even i have had to put my prices up due to inflation
from what i know methamphetamine is becoming more widely available,especially in the gay scene
most of the uppers and 'dance drugs' start off in the gay scene,then spread to others
i don't know that it is yet easily available outside of the gay scene in UK
it's no secret what i do to get £££s
even i have had to put my prices up due to inflation
from what i know methamphetamine is becoming more widely available,especially in the gay scene
most of the uppers and 'dance drugs' start off in the gay scene,then spread to others
i don't know that it is yet easily available outside of the gay scene in UK
Tryptamite
Bluelighter
J, I have only been north once, and never scored drugs in the city, but from what i hear the gear scene up there was much less prosperous than London. Dublin also had cheaper gear and a wider network of sellers as i was told.
I imagine with the majority of criminal enterprise being operated by the paramilitaries, who also police their own areas, gear is probably outlawed to a certain extent.
brimz
Bluelighter
where would be the best place to go on holiday to , so you could be garanteed to score decent kit i know about india but its a bit far and about £400 for a return ticket. cheers
Charlie's mentioned the best place in europe , I'd probably head 4 Laos for sum good tackle lol
kkattastic
Bluelighter
where would be the best place to go on holiday to , so you could be garanteed to score decent kit i know about india but its a bit far and about £400 for a return ticket. cheers
we discussed this a while back and agreed on cambodia being a great place for drug tourism
however,personally i think that if you are going on a holiday and planning on breaking the law there,you should take into account what the prisons are like there.Hence I would choose a european holiday if possible
brimz
Bluelighter
I agree atleast in the EU you got some rights , all signs are marked Sweden 4 the best kit .
kkattastic
Bluelighter
sweden has great jails
some jails in switzerland have waiting lists to get in there
they focus on providing training that will release ppl from the vicious circle of imprisonment
Cambodia is cool - get in to the smll villages in the mountains and you can smoke opium all day for a dollar or pick up gear - no police. Not sure sbout sweeden in terms of availability tho I did have a mate who got busted there some rtime ago with a k , he got 4 years and sais the prison was better that the 4* hotel he was staying in before hand.
kkattastic
Bluelighter
dunno what cambodian prisons are like and wouldn't wanna find out
i don't even know if you could get repatriated
How do folks? I've been getting decent shit at better prices too. The guy reckons another drought is on its way but he knows sod all. Well, as much as any of us do. I asked him if that meant that he'd soon be out of decent stuff and he was like 'No, I can still get the good shit'! Hmmm....
Anyway, paying £25 for about .4 of decent stuff, it's just a bloody shame that I got no pennies today. The cheque I'm waiting to clear didn't do so today so instead of pawning shit (I even considered the guitar and some lockpicks then decided I'd rather go without) I'm gonna drink my green and await a fat session 2moz!!! Hoorah!
Anyway, paying £25 for about .4 of decent stuff, it's just a bloody shame that I got no pennies today. The cheque I'm waiting to clear didn't do so today so instead of pawning shit (I even considered the guitar and some lockpicks then decided I'd rather go without) I'm gonna drink my green and await a fat session 2moz!!! Hoorah!
kkattastic
Bluelighter
i find it quite easy to wait as long as i know when i have to wait until
some meth and a few benzos will get me thru
good to hear from you and that you are getting good
must catch up sometime
louie the 16th
Bluelighter
@ C.C. & Jspun
somethin tells me i'm being confused as an Irish Fellow !
Any truth to this ?
I'm from W. Midlands U.K.
somethin tells me i'm being confused as an Irish Fellow !
Any truth to this ?
I'm from W. Midlands U.K.
Well I got up this morning expecting to go score and when the well was dry I got pretty desperate but now I'm glad I didn't throw away over £100 today. If I got £60 from pawning shit then it's almost £100 to get it back. Only another couple of hours till I can sleep then it'll be half fun waking up 2moz at least!!
Are things still crappy over Wolves side? Jesus, even my 3rd choice has gear that's real at least! 1st choice is a £40 spend to get a proper nod on for a few hours!
U ok Kat?
cherrycolouredfunk
Bluelighter
Scored today, decent gray stuff that was brown/black on beetle and tasted really strong. I had to do a piss test after doing my bag, so the truth will tell when the results come back
Louie, sorry for the confusion...by the way I was joking with the Ian Paisely statement.
Both sides need peace. There is 2 brothers in Ulster that bring protestant and catholic kids together surfing in the interest of peace- was watching it on a documentary by the creator of endless summer Bruce Brown.
Tryptamine... thanks for answering my question about the scene in Northern Ireland.
About gear destinations I would say Cambodia and Vancouver or Montreal. Don't know about the situ in cambodia now a days but the cops unlike thailand or other countries in the region would leave dope fiends alone. I know India had a reputation for tolerance once upon a time heard differin reports.
As for Europe sounds like Porto and Espagna or Sweden are the places to go- question is does Sweden have much of an outdoor scene.
Tijuana had a bomming scene for tar heroin, coke, meth, pharms, ect...but now if nothing else its probaly unsafe. Basing it out of california- the summers are nice and we got cannabis dispensaries that you don't have to be a citizen to qualify for- just pay a fee and see a doctor.
The Neatherlands- In Rotterdam they used to have house approved dealers associated with the safe injection room there. Don't know how accomidating they would be for non-dutch or if they are getting shit because of the drought- quality may be resuming.
Anyway, an old thread, hope it isn't in archives- Foreign Drug Scenes in drug culture is a good resource- maybe I'll ask the question there if I am able to.
KKat- Tweak (methamphetamine), though big were I live is huge in the Gay scene- it is actually somewhat accepted. It is one of the conduits for the spread of this drug and club drugs to other regions as you pointed out. (Crystal Meth Anonymous in SoCal is probably 90% plus gay.) Staright tweakers go to NA/AA/CA to get clean.
Foreign Drug Scenes in drug culture, an old thread
Both sides need peace. There is 2 brothers in Ulster that bring protestant and catholic kids together surfing in the interest of peace- was watching it on a documentary by the creator of endless summer Bruce Brown.
Tryptamine... thanks for answering my question about the scene in Northern Ireland.
About gear destinations I would say Cambodia and Vancouver or Montreal. Don't know about the situ in cambodia now a days but the cops unlike thailand or other countries in the region would leave dope fiends alone. I know India had a reputation for tolerance once upon a time heard differin reports.
As for Europe sounds like Porto and Espagna or Sweden are the places to go- question is does Sweden have much of an outdoor scene.
Tijuana had a bomming scene for tar heroin, coke, meth, pharms, ect...but now if nothing else its probaly unsafe. Basing it out of california- the summers are nice and we got cannabis dispensaries that you don't have to be a citizen to qualify for- just pay a fee and see a doctor.
The Neatherlands- In Rotterdam they used to have house approved dealers associated with the safe injection room there. Don't know how accomidating they would be for non-dutch or if they are getting shit because of the drought- quality may be resuming.
Anyway, an old thread, hope it isn't in archives- Foreign Drug Scenes in drug culture is a good resource- maybe I'll ask the question there if I am able to.
KKat- Tweak (methamphetamine), though big were I live is huge in the Gay scene- it is actually somewhat accepted. It is one of the conduits for the spread of this drug and club drugs to other regions as you pointed out. (Crystal Meth Anonymous in SoCal is probably 90% plus gay.) Staright tweakers go to NA/AA/CA to get clean.
Foreign Drug Scenes in drug culture, an old thread
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