Bupe Buprenorphine IV Cocktails

[dhopeless]

So I'm sure that anyone that has been on buprenorphine maintenance therapy for longer than a few months has started to wonder how to make their bupe feel 'more like an opiate', or 'more powerful', ect. I know we have a horrendous amount of sub--- threads already, so I have a feeling this might get merged, but I was specifically wondering what IV cocktails guys have tried (for people who unfortunately started shooting their tex). I was first on suboxone from May '08 till I switched to tex in December '08, and have been on that ever since. I mainly snorted and just popped klonopins and smoked weed everyday with them for all this time. Then I got sent to jail and had to cold turkey off all that. Anyway, I ended up back on tex but have been trying to hold off asking my doc for another kpin script cause kpin is such a horrible drug, so I get a limited number of ativan instead. Many of my friends state that the only way they can get high of bupe these days is to take them with a bunch of benzos. I agree, in some ways. So these are some various favorite cocktails of mine... in all I like to pop a few benzos an hour or so before I shoot unless...

...4mg subutex, mixed in with 2mg ativan (propylene glycol and a bit of ethanol used to dissolve): Ususally I just take the benzos orally because this is such a pain in the ass to do. It is SO hard to inject yourself with a rig full of PG. But if I get it right it can be quite amazing.

-4mg subutex mixed in with 25mg diphenhydramine, Sleepinal Brand (take a few ativan or whatever benzos I can get my hands on an hour before):This really does boost the 'rush' feeling quite a bit. Only problem is if I do this in the morning, no matter how many cups of coffee later, I end up nodding off back to sleep. Diphenhydramine is so far the best thing I have found to mix with my tex and shoot. 25mgs is enough, the sleepinal's come in 50 so I personally use half a capsule. If I use 50mg then the diphen seems to be too strong and overpower the bupe.

and my most dangerous one yet...

-4mg subutex mixed with 12.5mg diphenhydramine and .1mg clonodine. This sounds STUPID and probably is dangerous, and it's only something I'll ever do before bed because it knocks me the hell out.

-occasionally i'll do the 'poor white collar junkie's speedball' as I call it...

-4mg subutex, mixed with mephedrone...this seriously gave me the BEST rush I've ever gotten. I don't know why, but there definitely is a synergy with these two. The most insane (what seems to be) dopamine rush I have ever felt... You kind of melt back into the couch and your eyes roll back into your head. Orgasmic.

So, anyone else have any good bupe cocktails they'd like to share? I'm very curious. I'd like to add that with everything I mentioned here, I have ALWAYS put it through a micron filter before shooting. Otherwise, the results of all this random pill shooting would be DISASTROUS. Please do not IV anything that you didn't get from a pharmacy or doctor that was made for IV unless you take the proper steps and time to wheel filter it and do it safe and sterile, for harm reduction's and God's sake.

 

[ONandOFF777]

I don’t shoot my sub, but have in the past tried and never found it to be worth while.

However for a while I was doing the Midazolam and bupe shots and the Midazolam gives a fantastic rush.

Be very careful with IV Midazolam 1/4th of a 15mg pill will put most people even with a benzo tolerance down.

I started out at a quarter and ended up doing 30 to 45mg at a time multiple times a day…lets just say my life became a wreck…..

1500+ pills in only a few months, and this was NOT my plan!!!!!!

 

[dhopeless]

Wish I could get my hands on some of that. In the US the only benzos that exist are Valium, Ativan, Klonopin, and Xanax. Maybe occasionally Librium but that's all I've ever seen in person.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

Midazolam is available (and prescribed) in the United States IIRC

 

[dhopeless]

Midazolam is available (and prescribed) in the United States IIRC

I know, I just mean it's uncommon.

 

[comatoserct]

I have shot my bupe with diphenhydramine. I created a solution of micron filtered diphen with the bupe in bacteriostatic water. It was 100mg diphen and 2mg bupe per ml. I would take .25ml twice a day, and it produced a nice feeling, but quickly faded into normality after repeated use.

I tend to be practical, so I don't plan on trying any other substances, especially benzos

 

[DeLee]

I did shoot Subutex/Suboxone with cyclizine or Promethazine when I used Bupe IV. This is years ago though and since we have no micron filters here in Sweden and ordering was expensive I decided it was for the better to stop shooting bupe.

A desicion I don't regret today.

 

[dhopeless]

A decision you don't regret and one I need to make...I can't believe they give this stuff to addicts. Not complaining, as I see it the lesser of two evils but God damn these are good pills!

 

[cire113]

do you even know what the point of sub is?

 

[etard7007]

^^ how do you get high on bupe??

no matter how much I shoot of it I don't get high... I just started on bupe like 2 weeks ago after an IV oxymorph habit and I don't get how people say they get high on it?!

I understand how non addicted opiate naive people would get loaded but otherwise... I've never shot it with diphenhydramine... but, just as I did with oxymorphone, I have taken it orally 45mins before my shot of bupe and still nothing...

I want to take my sub film strips sublingually but i get awful nausea so I have been IVing it (with micron filters of course) ... my father prescribed me promethazine also for said nausea so i even take that orally with diphen before a sub shot and again, no effect.

the first few days or so i tried IVing like 6mg and quickly realized i get no added benefit. i get held fine by 4mg sublingually so i definitely dont want to raise my tolerance unnecessarily like this. today i IVed 4mg total, and i think im going to IV 2mg tomorrow and start taking it subling from now on.

 

[OxCmorphone]

^^ how do you get high on bupe??

no matter how much I shoot of it I don't get high... I just started on bupe like 2 weeks ago after an IV oxymorph habit and I don't get how people say they get high on it?!

I understand how non addicted opiate naive people would get loaded but otherwise... I've never shot it with diphenhydramine... but, just as I did with oxymorphone, I have taken it orally 45mins before my shot of bupe and still nothing...

I want to take my sub film strips sublingually but i get awful nausea so I have been IVing it (with micron filters of course) ... my father prescribed me promethazine also for said nausea so i even take that orally with diphen before a sub shot and again, no effect.

the first few days or so i tried IVing like 6mg and quickly realized i get no added benefit. i get held fine by 4mg sublingually so i definitely dont want to raise my tolerance unnecessarily like this. today i IVed 4mg total, and i think im going to IV 2mg tomorrow and start taking it subling from now on.

I think it provides a pretty good high. Don't be expecting the total bliss that oxymorphone provides when IV'd, IMO Oxymorphone provides the best rush, high, and nod of any opiate/opioid.

I think the strips give a very energetic and happy buzz, it's not overwhelming, but it makes you content for sure. The suboxone pills are shit for IVing, it takes me about 2-3 shots to get a whole half IV'd. The stips are gold, they are so much more concentrated, they make me feel a lot bette. I'd take a strip any day over a pill, I'm so glad they changed them.

The wierd thing about IVing suboxone is that it takes 5 minutes for the full effects to kick in, I always notice my lips get really tingly and numb, and I won't shut my mouth up because I'm so happy, I know some people have to be like "dude just shut the fuck up I get it" lol, but everything is just so interesting for me on it.

Now subutex, that shit is amazing. I feel the effects just as fast as if I had shot opana. It feels so much more clean as well, and I would definitly label it as a rush.

I'd advise that you don't keep IVing sub, it's not worth all the complications that can go on. Plus once you start IVing it you will never go back to taking it under your tongue. Sublingually the bioavailability is around 40-50% I believe, and of course when IVd it's 100%, so you get a lot more, every other ROA doesn't do anything for me after I started IVing it.

BTW You may not be doing it right I'm not sure. What I do is take a 1/4 put it in 1ml of water and let it sit for about 5-10 minutes, after you let it sit stir it quite a bit until it is all dissolved then drop the cotton in and draw up. BTW I've got a pretty good tolerance and I've found that 2mgs of bupe is all you need, anything above that is a waste IMO.

 

[DeLee]

^^ how do you get high on bupe??

You need to be one of two things if you want to get "high" of Bupe.

Either you are opioid-naive and have no experience what so ever - this is the best and will produce a good high of Bupe for a pretty long period of time.
Thats why so many youngsters here in Sweden get hooked on Bupe as their first opioid-experience.

Or you need to lower your tolerance to opioids to 0, keep away from all opioids for a couple of months and then jump on Subutex/Suboxone.
It will give most people a high but its nothing like a true agonist like Oxy, morphine or heroin though.
But there are a lot of people who like the effect they get from Bupe, I know of some from this forum that do. Maybe good old Captain.H can give hes take on it.

Me personally do not get high of Bupe its more like a mild mood stabilizer, I have used it like its intended to be used - to stay of other opioids.
But it didn't do very much so I got on Methadone instead, Methadone is in another league. Totally different.

 

[illuminati soulja]

I just take it like once or twice a week, an insufflated dose around .5-1mg and i get a high both times.
But like was said above if you wait longer the high will be stronger.. so the longest you can hold off the better.
But a good combo to IV is bupe & hydroxyzine hcl.

 

[moonshield06]

I have only IV'd suboxone once, back last year. I did 4mg(tablet), and filtered through a micron filter. I can't remember if I got a noticeable rush or not unfortunately. I have not tried again as I am on the films now and I've been getting all the relief I need from taking it with the proper ROA. I've been on suboxone(8mg) for over a year now, and to this day -- I get a very mild buzz that lasts for about 1-2 hours. My mood is lifted, and I get that fuzzy feeling in my head like a very mild opiate buzz gives. If I really want to feel good, I take about 3-4mg of klonopin an hour before taking my sub.

What I want to know is if the strips can be prepared for IV dosing. Would letting the strip dissolve in say 70-80cc of water for 10m, and then stirring well+filtering through a micron filter work? Really curious. Keep in mind, I am not talking about subutex. I am talking about suboxone. I know a lot of people think the naloxone in it makes it bad to inject, but from what I know it still remains inactive even when booted. I was fine when I banged sub the one time, I know that. I still had plenty of relief.

 

['medicine cabinet']

when i was on it i used to IV it mixed with some benzos like an hour before and do a shot with some clonidine, it wasnt great but it was ok.

 

[SUB SHOOTER 2010]

^^ how do you get high on bupe??

no matter how much I shoot of it I don't get high... I just started on bupe like 2 weeks ago after an IV oxymorph habit and I don't get how people say they get high on it?!

I understand how non addicted opiate naive people would get loaded but otherwise... I've never shot it with diphenhydramine... but, just as I did with oxymorphone, I have taken it orally 45mins before my shot of bupe and still nothing...

I want to take my sub film strips sublingually but i get awful nausea so I have been IVing it (with micron filters of course) ... my father prescribed me promethazine also for said nausea so i even take that orally with diphen before a sub shot and again, no effect.

the first few days or so i tried IVing like 6mg and quickly realized i get no added benefit. i get held fine by 4mg sublingually so i definitely dont want to raise my tolerance unnecessarily like this. today i IVed 4mg total, and i think im going to IV 2mg tomorrow and start taking it subling from now on.

The reason you aren't getting high is because you started taking bupe when you came off of a strong opiate and it wont give you the pleasurable effects then. It will prob just make you feel normal and take away withdrawals at that point. You said it right. You cant have a tolerance and "get high" really off of bupe.

 

[dhopeless]

I think it provides a pretty good high. Don't be expecting the total bliss that oxymorphone provides when IV'd, IMO Oxymorphone provides the best rush, high, and nod of any opiate/opioid.

I think the strips give a very energetic and happy buzz, it's not overwhelming, but it makes you content for sure. The suboxone pills are shit for IVing, it takes me about 2-3 shots to get a whole half IV'd. The stips are gold, they are so much more concentrated, they make me feel a lot bette. I'd take a strip any day over a pill, I'm so glad they changed them.

The wierd thing about IVing suboxone is that it takes 5 minutes for the full effects to kick in, I always notice my lips get really tingly and numb, and I won't shut my mouth up because I'm so happy, I know some people have to be like "dude just shut the fuck up I get it" lol, but everything is just so interesting for me on it.

Now subutex, that shit is amazing. I feel the effects just as fast as if I had shot opana. It feels so much more clean as well, and I would definitly label it as a rush.

I'd advise that you don't keep IVing sub, it's not worth all the complications that can go on. Plus once you start IVing it you will never go back to taking it under your tongue. Sublingually the bioavailability is around 40-50% I believe, and of course when IVd it's 100%, so you get a lot more, every other ROA doesn't do anything for me after I started IVing it.

BTW You may not be doing it right I'm not sure. What I do is take a 1/4 put it in 1ml of water and let it sit for about 5-10 minutes, after you let it sit stir it quite a bit until it is all dissolved then drop the cotton in and draw up. BTW I've got a pretty good tolerance and I've found that 2mgs of bupe is all you need, anything above that is a waste IMO.

Totally agreed. Suboxone, for whatever reason takes a while to hit you. Also it helps to let it sit for a bit. The bupe solutes better, and the other crap sinks to the bottom.

 

[dhopeless]

The reason you aren't getting high is because you started taking bupe when you came off of a strong opiate and it wont give you the pleasurable effects then. It will prob just make you feel normal and take away withdrawals at that point. You said it right. You cant have a tolerance and "get high" really off of bupe.

Also agreed... If you are doing heroin or something like that even once a week, your tolerance will too high for bupe to touch you. A friend of mine used to love taking my tex. Then he started doing mad heroin and now he says he 'can't get high no matter how much he takes.' That's pretty much how it goes. You gotta abstain from all others and be faithful to your sub to get the pleasure out of it.