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HPPD Salvia Warning

"However if your friend is anything like me, the DP/DR clears up first,"

I don't have have HPPD but have had DP/DR for a while (after smoking cannabis for a while). I'm alway curious to hear people's ideas on how they got over their DP/DR as I'm currently working on doing so myself. Any thoughts?
 
Dude what I get about salvia is that when you break through or do a high enough dose, but not too high that you just blackout the experience. At this dose you will slow down time until you are moving moment by moment very slowly, when you get like this or to the point that time stops you are essentially losing your 3rd dimension or "time" That is why this visual effect shows at least to me as you being trapped in a two dimensional world with nothing but yourself to look at. You see yourself because we are all a part of god, a part of each other, and a part of all materials that come from the earth. God made us but also gave us free will to experience our feelings and emotions how we desire to.

Iciclem: Those lines you saw that control you are what I believe as karma agents or just how the force of karma works. Karma makes you experience whatever experiences you are supposed to based on your past negative/positive choices of how to feel these experiences. So maybe we never have control where we move or how we move or what activity we are actually doing. But our free will is what allows us to choose to feel positive or negative and HOW MUCH SO during everything we have to do in life. How positive or negative you experience every moment actually changes what your future moments will become. It works like this when we are reincarnated in this life/body you're in now all the possible moments and experiences you can have are already known and projected in space/time as the karma force. None of them are for certain, but every moment you feel this or that negative/positive you are changing the course and path of where you're going to go and what you are going to do in life.

Don't worry or panic about this if it is true, for I had gained PTSD from my salvia trip and these thoughts are what caused me to cure myself from it. Also you never have to experience any thought/feeling/emotion as negative if accept that it is what has to happen to you and you forgive yourself for making your present self have to feel this way, if you live and act on both these things in that moment you will MAKE that negative into a neutral. When you turn it neutral you are actually stopping yourself from gaining negative karma, and also you are ending the process of obsessing about this negative thing and spending time/energy/stress thinking about it. Now any positive thoughts/feelings/emotions you have to experience from these karmic forces you can fully enjoy because you earned them based on doing good/positive things in your past and isn't that nice? This is the path to destroying all your karma and not having to reincarnate again, for once you can do this you have almost, or have experienced every possible emotion (compassion, happiness, forgiveness, etc) and have learned about them as much as you need to in order to spiritually evolve.
 
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You all have helped me very much with this. I continue and will forever continue to pursue knowledge, but I know that I've gained as much as I can from their world without fully letting myself live there forever, so I think my journey with salvia has ended for the good of my sanity, but something has been taken away from this trip: A sense of purpose and self that it feels I had forgotten a long time ago. You know, it's weird, I had an extremely deja vu type of experience with all of my emotions and senses when I was there.

And the karma agents thing is PRECISE! When you mentioned karma, o just had a feeling that's what it was. They were the universe themselves working everything around me. They told me I just was NOT allowed to say a word about them
 
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Dimitri K. said:
"However if your friend is anything like me, the DP/DR clears up first,"

I don't have have HPPD but have had DP/DR for a while (after smoking cannabis for a while). I'm alway curious to hear people's ideas on how they got over their DP/DR as I'm currently working on doing so myself. Any thoughts?
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ah, another one.

i've had dr/dp for about a year from cannabis. the only thing i've found to help is time. just wait, there's nothing you can do. it's not like the residual visuals from acid or similar where keeping calm and not worrying about it will make it go away faster. i even speculate that dp/dr is perhaps in susceptible individuals caused directly by the actions of some lipophilic cannabis metabolites, that stay in your system for some time, on some receptors in the brain. the intensity of the dr/dp for me has always depended on the strain (and of course the amount and time between smoking) with sativa strains being not quite as bad as indica...
 
They're kinda mean to me. It feels like they've always been that way. After meditating on the experience over the past few days, I feel like I'm beginning to understand where the "memories" of this place came from.

When I was younger, I experienced what I believed to be hallucinations, when I was about 6-8 years old. It happened frequently in the evening at bedtime when there was silence everywhere and I was by myself. I would become extremely anxious and I believe my vision was absolutely distorted and I heard voices and I saw shapes in front of my eyes even though my eyes were open and there was no one there.

It stopped happening at some point, I can't remember when, but it was a big deal, I remember, when they told me I could "never go back there again" so I agreed and I guess somewhere along the line I forgot about it. Until recently, I haven't had any episodes at night. For a while, in middle and high school, I told people my room was haunted, I didn't understand, nor did I clearly remember the cold-sweated nights, the haunting visions, the feeling like the world was crushing me... and the voices...

That place wasn't always so unkind to me, I remember, but it isn't somewhere I have any interest in going back to. Their world moved much faster than ours, so I had to move very very slowly in reality or else I'd get so anxious I'd feel sick.

There's something in my mind, people, and it reacted to the salvia and brought something deeply rooted in my mind, back to the forefront of my reality and confused me. They especially didn't want any witness to this because they believed as much as I did that the other people (people in reality) could see them, but they couldn't accept that idea was false
 
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