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Warning about lethal batch of 2C-E

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The following alert regarding a lethal batch of 2C-E was issued by drugs-forum.com. Please be careful.

We thought it important to warn our members about the following:

On March 17th in Minneapolis and on May 7th in Oklahoma two groups of 19 people total were hospitalized and 3 people died after the ingestion of 2C-E.

2C-E has been used over 20 years without serious incidents. 2C-E its onset takes 2 hours, while the victims experienced effects after only one hour. This gives a serious indication that the 2C-E bought over the internet was tainted or mislabeled. We have just received news that this is indeed the case.

According to police the 2C-E involved in the death in Oklahoma was purchased from chemicology.net The website is no longer active- and it is unclear if it was taken down voluntarily or by the authorities. It is very likely that the Chemicology was supplied this 2C-E by a Chinese vendor. Chemicology was a US based vendor selling only 2C-E and 2C-I .

If you have bought product from this vendor then do NOT consume it nor let others consume it. If you have purchased any product from them recently please contact the staff.

The 2C-E causing the Minneapolis death and hospitalizations is said to be ordered online from a Chinese vendor. It is currently not known which Chinese vendor is involved, nor if this vendor supplied other research chemical vendors.
For this reason we urge you to avoid all 2C-E. Please spread the word.

More information is available here: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=160088

NB - I've also created a thread for this in North & South American Social & Drug Discussion but thought it was also worthwhile creating here in ADD as many of us don't pay much attention to the US threads and may miss this.
 
So apparently it was bromo-dragonfly? That's terrible, selling that to people as something else.

According to media reports, that's correct. Bromo-Dragonfly mislabeled as 2C-E.

This also happened back in October 2009 when the owner of Haupt-RC and several customers died after Bromo-Dragonfly was sold as 2C-B-FLY. Again, this was originally sourced from China.
 
So here's the real story...

Before I start, I don't think cody should get charged with murder. Being on the fact it comes down to personal responibility, and knowing the risks involved.


Now,
I live here in oklahoma city, oklahoma. I personally knew everyone involved, including the dealer. He had ordered the chems of[snip] in hopes of purchasing the 2-ce. EVERYONE thought it was 2-ce, until the blood work came back yesterday. The reason everyone got sent to the hospital, and 2 of them died was not because he cut it. Before going to a party, the dealer sent my friend with what was thought of 2-ce to dose everyone. He mixed it at 1mg or every 10 ml in a 1 liter soda bottle. Which wouldn't have been a bad dose at all, except for the fact bromo-dragonfly is dosed in micro-grams. They took 9 times the needed amount in the way they did this, because the dealer cody wasn't aware of the mix-up. They even dosed it out 15 ml every person in a labeled dropper. This was just an isolated incident because that was the first night that the product arrived. There was only 1 other death that was at the party but was involved through friends in obtaining the drug from cody or who ever. But, this stuff is definitely the most evil chem I've ever seen.. Everyone who didn't die, has said and I quote," It was like being dragged to hell and back again. Many times. It is the most evil [thing] I've ever tried. It lasted what felt like an eterity" I've taken my fair share of 2-ce and bromo even looks like it, there's really no way to test without having a mecke test, which cody didn't have. Those people were my friends and have been doing chems for years. All it takes is one mislabeled package to seal everyone's fate.
 
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this is defiantly a horror story that will be told over and over again,

but RCS can be dangerous
 
couldve been avoided if the bloke (cody?) had tested it before sending it out..

i know i don't always reagant test but atleast i'll be the only one to end up in the hospital if i did get a mix up.
 
Hmmm, interesting. There's an abundance of 2C-E in Adelaide, Australia at the moment. Hopefully it's not coming from the same source. I doubt it is but still, I'll be avoiding from now on. Thanks very much for the warning, Marley.

:)
 
My heart goes out to the friends and family of those who died from this stupid mix up.

After the 2C-B-Fly mix up in 2009, I always sample a 1mg dose of any new RC that I come into contact with. 1mg of Bromo-Dragonfly will be intense but, not deadly.

Anyone dealing with these chemicals should always suspect the worst and never expect their orders to be what they are labelled as. Always reagent test and sample tiny amounts to rule out other substances.

I can only imagine the pain that the OD victims went through. I rate Bromo-Dragonfly as the worst substance that I have ever taken (dosed between 300 and 750ucg).

RIP
 
It has about 300 times the potency of mescaline, or 1/5 the potency of LSD. Longer duration, up to a few days have been reported.
Dosage is 500 μg to 1 mg, so very small dose got a good hit i assume.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2C-B-FLY
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromo-DragonFLY
is some light reading, but since they are RC not much is known really.
dive into erwoid or Pihkal for more details (if they are there)

"Laboratory testing has confirmed that in October 2009, a batch of Bromo-Dragonfly was distributed, mislabeled as the related compound 2C-B-FLY, which is around 20x less potent than BDF by weight." so not the first time its happened, so you really have to be careful when ordering RC's of the net
 
How about some truth about this story.

the reason the dick died is cos he racked up HALF GRAM line of 2-ce, 1/4 the thickness of a lighter!

Read! The full story: From twincities.com (article now deleted)
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It started with a case of beer, three friends and a game of quarters.

Greg Dwyer, an 18-year-old from Spring Lake Park, picked up his friends Jesse Fisher and Nikali Johnston, both 16, a little before 7 p.m. March 16. They stopped at a liquor store, grabbed a 30-pack of Milwaukee Special Reserve and headed to Fisher's house in Blaine. His mom was out of town.

"It was just supposed to be a few of us," Dwyer said. "Every time (Fisher) has a party there, something always happens. ... That's why he wanted this to be a chill night, just drinking beer."

At the beginning, it was.

The three teenagers cracked open their beers in the kitchen. They talked and listened to music as they took turns trying to bounce a quarter into a cup on the counter.

Later, another kid showed up, then a couple of others, and eventually Trevor Robinson and Timothy Lamere. That's when the night turned. The focus shifted from drinking and hanging out to a pile of white powder dumped on the living room coffee table.

Eleven partiers that night took the 2C-E, a synthetic hallucinogen often described as a mix of Ecstasy and LSD. Ten wound up in area hospitals. Robinson, a 19-year-old father, would later die. Lamere, 21, or "Timte," has since been charged with unintentional third-degree murder.

It was an outcome none of them expected.

"I still can't even really believe it," Johnston said. "It was just a normal party till (Lamere) brought out the lines."

Johnston and Dwyer were two of three people at the party who didn't take the 2C-E. Though both drank — Dwyer says he had five or six beers, Johnston about 12, plus a couple of shots — each said they sobered up immediately after the 2C-E showed up. Their memories of what happened at certain points in the night are sharp, sometimes painfully so.

"I couldn't sleep for three days," Johnston said. "Every time I closed my eyes, I would see (Trevor's) face."

SEEING COLORS

Not long after the three settled in to their game of quarters — about 7:30 p.m. — another friend showed up. Two girls they knew from school arrived an hour later, having run into Fisher and the latest guest on a cigarette run.

The girls, who brought a liter of whiskey, Dwyer said, wanted to invite Robinson.

"Trevor is always the life of the party, so they wanted to drink with him," Dwyer said.

Robinson showed up with two more girls, but he didn't stay long.

He had something else on his mind, said Dwyer and Johnston, two of the original three gathered that night.

"He wanted to see colors," Johnston said. "Those were his exact words."

And Robinson wanted to bring Lamere.

Lamere was a friend of Robinson's who had been charged with two drug-related felonies in 2008. Dwyer and Johnston said people knew to hit up Lamere if they wanted to get high.

Robinson "kept asking, 'Is it OK if I bring Timte?' " Dwyer said.

It was about 10 p.m., Dwyer said, when Robinson returned. He had Lamere and two other friends in tow.

IMMEDIATE EFFECTS

Lamere dumped a pile of white powder he called 2C-I onto the coffee table. He then split the powder into lines, Dwyer said. The substance later tested to be 2C-E.

Dwyer, who said he'd done 2C-E about eight times, said the lines looked big, maybe about the length of a lighter and a quarter of the width.

Robinson, who had turned 19 a few days earlier, got first pick of the biggest one.

Johnston and Dwyer said Lamere offered the drug to anyone who wanted it. Dwyer, who thought he might need to take a drug test for a job, declined. Johnston, who said he'd taken 2C-E maybe 20 times before, said he wasn't up for it. A girl also declined.

The remaining partiers, including Lamere, took turns snorting the lines. One kid stuffed his in toilet paper and ate it, Dwyer said.

The effects were immediate.

"(One girl) had puke on her pants; someone puked on a purse. There was just puke everywhere," Dwyer said.

"Everyone was holding their faces and saying it hurt way worse than 2C-E," Johnston recalled, adding others there had taken 2C-E in the past.

Then people started breathing heavily and sweating, Johnston said.

"Just dripping sweat ... down to their belly buttons," he said.

One girl kept asking Dwyer if they were dead. Another guy later told Johnston he felt like he was under sniper fire because he saw red dots. Someone else dry heaved while screaming for food.

Johnston said he's seen plenty of people on drugs before, "and none of them had ever acted like that."

ONE LOSES CONTROL

Robinson, the usual life of the party, had gone quiet, Johnston and Dwyer said.

"He was just completely blank face," Johnston said. "I was touching his face and being like 'Are you cool, dude?' "

Dwyer started to worry.

"I wasn't worried about him dying; I just thought he wasn't going to be the same person after that," Dwyer said.

But the energy was building in Robinson, Dwyer said. His movements quickened, and his breathing became heavier. At some point, Robinson went into Fisher's bedroom. That's when he exploded.

"It was like he lost control of his body," Dwyer said. "He was flailing around ... breaking (things), punching holes in the walls."

"He was spinning around in circles ... going from wall to wall, and then he would go to his knees and then curl up in the fetal position and then roll around on his back for a while," Johnston said. "He looked like a scared little 5-year-old. ... I've never seen an adult look like that before."

Johnston began suggesting calling an ambulance. Dwyer said he did, too. Both said a few at the party, including Lamere, the alleged drug provider, dismissed the idea, likely out of fear of getting police or parents involved.

Instead, people tried to hold Robinson down, which Johnston said appeared to agitate him further.

"It was like he had superhuman strength," he said.

At some point, Dwyer heard Robinson screaming.

"It sounded like someone was on fire," Dwyer said.

After another struggle to restrain Robinson, he was moved to the living room, where he knocked over an ashtray and a lamp.

Johnston grabbed his guitar.

TRYING TO CALM HIM

"I thought maybe if I played some guitar, it would chill him out a little bit," Johnston said.

With Robinson lying on the floor, Johnston started playing. Dwyer said at first Robinson was still jerking and hitting his head against the floor. Johnston remembers someone putting pillows under his head.

Johnston kept playing, and he and two girls started singing. The tension started to leave Robinson's body.

"I looked at him, and his body wasn't moving and all the movement was in his face," Dwyer said. "I remember thinking, 'That's not good; that can't be good.' "

Then, during what Johnston thinks was the Beatles song "Let It Be," Robinson stopped breathing.

Panic followed.

A few people tried CPR; he didn't respond. Johnston recalls someone calling 911. Dwyer, who said he didn't know an ambulance had been called, felt like he had to act.

He and Johnston carried Robinson out to Dwyer's blue minivan. Johnston said the skin around Robinson's eyes had begun to change color and his body was limp.

They laid him in the back seat, and Dwyer took off for the hospital.

POLICE CALLED

Blaine police got a call from the house at 9532 Monroe St. N.E. just before 1 a.m. March 17. The caller said someone was not breathing.

Dwyer was already on his way to the hospital by the time officers arrived. They found several people at the split-level house who appeared to be suffering a bad reaction to drugs, police reports said.

"There were kids passed out or in medical duress down the block ... or maybe 50 feet away from the house," Anoka County sheriff's Cmdr. Paul Sommer said. It looked like some had left to escape police.

Lamere was found lying in a snow bank. A bottle containing about 9 grams of a powder drug was found in his pocket, Sommer said.

Ambulances took Lamere and nine others to area hospitals, where they were treated for overdoses.

The drug tested to be 2C-E. The results on its purity were still pending, Sommer said.

'HE'S NOT BREATHING!'

Dwyer said he didn't pause for stop signs or street lights as he made his way to Unity Hospital. When he arrived — about 1 a.m. — he parked and left his van's doors open as he carried Robinson into the emergency room.

"I just yelled, 'He's not breathing!' " Dwyer said.

Someone rushed to give Robinson CPR. He was placed on a stretcher and taken away.

Dwyer, immediately questioned by police, said he kept asking if he could see his friend.

"They made it seem like he was going to be all right. ... That's when I stopped worrying," Dwyer said. "It wasn't until the next morning that I heard he passed away."

MOTHER ALERTED

Jill Robinson first learned something had happened to her son while on a bus to catch a class at Anthem College later that morning.

She listened to two messages on her cellphone left hours earlier by police and the hospital. A family friend rushed to pick her up, and then drove her to the hospital.

"I walked in that room and, oh, my God, honey, it was the most painful thing I would never wish upon another human soul, to watch him like that," Jill Robinson said.

The doctors told her Trevor technically died before he had arrived at the hospital. They were able to revive him briefly four or five times.

Early autopsy reports say he died of cardiac arrest caused by toxicity from the presence of "2C" drugs in his system.

No other drugs were in his body. His blood-alcohol level was 0.06, less than the legal limit to drive, Sommer said.

'NOT A MURDERER'

Lamere, of Blaine, was charged with unintentional third-degree murder the next week for allegedly providing Robinson with the drug that caused his death.

Jill Robinson said Lamere was a close friend of her son. He even stayed with her family for a time. She casts no blame on him for what happened.

"He loved my son, and my son loved this silly kid," she said. "I can only pray they can get him the help he needs. ... He is not a murderer."

Lamere is being held in the Anoka County Jail.

Attempts to reach him or his family for comment were unsuccessful. Fisher, who invited two friends over that night, and his family also could not be reached for comment. And an official with the public defender's office, which represented Lamere at his initial court hearing, said they did not want to comment.

Jill Robinson said she hopes the tragedy of what has happened — to both Lamere and her son — will be a wakeup call to others.

LASTING IMAGE

Dwyer and Johnston said they've talked to only a few of the people who were at the party about what happened.

But memories of that night and of Robinson, who they both said was one of the most well-liked and good-hearted kids they'd known, continue to play over in their minds.

"I just keep picturing who he was and what happened and how it built up into him dying," Dwyer said.

In the more than two weeks since, Johnston said he still struggles to sleep.

"I just remember carrying him out, and his face ... that will never leave my mind — ever."

Sarah Horner can be reached at 651-228-5539.

ABOUT 2C-E

A white powder sometimes pressed into pills, it can produce strong hallucinogenic effects. It's available online but has no accepted medical use, police say.

Poison Control Centers started observing use of "2C" chemicals in 2010. In Minnesota, three cases were reported that year, compared with 12 so far in 2011. Trevor Robinson's is believed to be the first confirmed death from 2C-E.

For details or help, call the Minnesota Poison Control System at 800-222-1222.
 
im Summary

There is no 'lethal' batch.

ALL drugs have 'lethal' doses.

Scales are your friend... and so is education!

For all whom read that daunting article above, story's have played out like that for every drug. Even more so with alcohol. death comes to those who don't take care.

dont trust anyone pulling out a big fat line.

always do a small test bump.

It seems he snorted at least 100mg of 2ce. (equal to 30 hits of acid at once!! )

I snort 7mg !!! Thats a bIIG difference

The culture 'loves' blaming bad batches.

In the end, It's usualy, just bad decisions.
 
So here's the real story...

Before I start, I don't think cody should get charged with murder. Being on the fact it comes down to personal responibility, and knowing the risks involved.


Now,
I live here in oklahoma city, oklahoma. I personally knew everyone involved, including the dealer. He had ordered the chems of[snip] in hopes of purchasing the 2-ce. EVERYONE thought it was 2-ce, until the blood work came back yesterday. The reason everyone got sent to the hospital, and 2 of them died was not because he cut it. Before going to a party, the dealer sent my friend with what was thought of 2-ce to dose everyone. He mixed it at 1mg or every 10 ml in a 1 liter soda bottle. Which wouldn't have been a bad dose at all, except for the fact bromo-dragonfly is dosed in micro-grams. They took 9 times the needed amount in the way they did this, because the dealer cody wasn't aware of the mix-up. They even dosed it out 15 ml every person in a labeled dropper. This was just an isolated incident because that was the first night that the product arrived. There was only 1 other death that was at the party but was involved through friends in obtaining the drug from cody or who ever. But, this stuff is definitely the most evil chem I've ever seen.. Everyone who didn't die, has said and I quote," It was like being dragged to hell and back again. Many times. It is the most evil [thing] I've ever tried. It lasted what felt like an eterity" I've taken my fair share of 2-ce and bromo even looks like it, there's really no way to test without having a mecke test, which cody didn't have. Those people were my friends and have been doing chems for years. All it takes is one mislabeled package to seal everyone's fate.

yes, but you test your chems first
 
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