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Stock up on dem Phenylethylamines people, they could go bye bye.

<<ellisd>> said:
I think he means that your comment in Post # 53 where you quoted Treatderek and your response was a little confusing. ;)
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Yea that was it.

teh1buck said:
This won't change availability. I'll still be able to order anything I want from my vendors, as well as everyone else from this site. There's a little more of an inherit risk to it now if you get caught, but really nothing else is going to change.
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I think that significantly fewer vendors will be online that are selling these chemicals if the bill passes. And certainly the MOQ will increase dramatically.
 
I wish the lawmakers could grasp the bigger picture. Or really everyone for that matter. Do they think they'll eventually get to a point where they can say "oh, ok guys, looks like we've got all the drugs under control now. good job men." i mean fuck.
 
Is there any evidence that something was wrong with this particular batch of 2C-E?

A difference in onset time by a few people could be unfamiliarity with the chemical or the fact that they were all doing enormous doses.
 
luckyslevin said:
pretty sure bluelight is where I learned swim. Anyways. I don't really get how its confusing or how first person pronouns would be better... but okay.
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SWIMing has always been against Bluelight rules, that I know of, at least since I joined. Sure, some people use it but it doesnt do anything in their favor and most likely just gets posts deleted. Using "I" is simple and in most cases the appropriate pronoun to use. Youre new to Bluelight, unless you have another account which is also against BL rules, so I suggest taking a look at the BLUA and Forum guidelines. Im done with this.

Im hoping to acquire 2C-I in the near future so Im looking forward to it :)

cryptix420 said:
I wish the lawmakers could grasp the bigger picture. Or really everyone for that matter. Do they think they'll eventually get to a point where they can say "oh, ok guys, looks like we've got all the drugs under control now. good job men." i mean fuck.
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The only picture lawmakers grasp is: Ban drugs, get more money. Politicians are in it for themselves. Sure, theres always exceptions but most of them are greedy when it comes to politics and money. No, they wont get to that point because if they keep banning drugs it will just cause more problems that they get blamed for which they cant see the truth about. Morons :|
 
NOOOOOOOO, i knew it would start to happen. these amazing drugs are getting too popular and whenever they get popular they get banned. fuckkkk
 
shishigami said:
Is there any evidence that something was wrong with this particular batch of 2C-E?

A difference in onset time by a few people could be unfamiliarity with the chemical or the fact that they were all doing enormous doses.
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No evidence as of yet. It has to be analysed first (off course)

I think a quick warning is the right thing to do.
If the warning against the 2c-b-fly batch had been quicker, it could have saved alot of anguish.
 
cryptix420 said:
I wish the lawmakers could grasp the bigger picture. Or really everyone for that matter. Do they think they'll eventually get to a point where they can say "oh, ok guys, looks like we've got all the drugs under control now. good job men." i mean fuck.
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this is, sadly and hilariously, the mindset of most well-meaning individuals involved in drug regulation...afaik anyway


shishigami said:
Is there any evidence that something was wrong with this particular batch of 2C-E?

A difference in onset time by a few people could be unfamiliarity with the chemical or the fact that they were all doing enormous doses.
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i dont think there is any hard evidence that a particular batch is tainted...i think you are right that reduced onset time could easily be explained by a large dose... on the other hand (in this most recent event) at least 2 people were coughing up blood. That sounds to me like something was wrong with what they took (unreacted precursors?) because i've never heard of internal bleeding from any dose of 2c-e.... Delsyd said he took 100 mg with no physical harm...and there's an erowid report of a man smoking 100 mg and having a hard time but no blood or seizures.
so....its really unclear what the deal is... if these deaths were from pure 2c-e then the poor souls must have taken at least 100 mg (which doesnt make sense to me coz in both cases someone was trying to sell 2c-e for a profit and why would you ever sell more than 20 mg as a dose if you're trying to make money?)
in any event this has prompted me to sample a very cheap gram of 2c-e i got a few months ago.... just now dosed 15 mg... will definitely let yall know if it seems toxic somehow
 
The 2C-E I did a few weekends ago, 12mg, very clean effects. Granted it wasnt a high dose, but the trip was very clean. If any substance is high quality product then IME negative effects should be at a minimum at reasonable doses.
 
Mitchi said:
No evidence as of yet. It has to be analysed first (off course)

I think a quick warning is the right thing to do.
If the warning against the 2c-b-fly batch had been quicker, it could have saved alot of anguish.
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i swear the initial reports were that the police had GCMS'd it and found it to be 2C-E? i am under the impression that a sample could have the peaks for 2c-e and also contain unreacted precursors.. but i'm no chemist
 
in any event this has prompted me to sample a very cheap gram of 2c-e i got a few months ago.... just now dosed 15 mg... will definitely let yall know if it seems toxic somehow
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The deaths of 2 people led you to sample your cheap stash? Interesting logic.

I have some 2C-E but no way I could dose it right now.. to many bad vibes surrounding it right now :(
 
villian said:
The deaths of 2 people led you to sample your cheap stash? Interesting logic.

I have some 2C-E but no way I could dose it right now.. to many bad vibes surrounding it right now :(
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:D
i definitely see your point... not gonna throw it out before trying it tho! i usually take 25 mg so i thought 15 would be a reasonable dose to test.
also feel you about the bad vibes... i had an excellent trip from a different bag earlier this week tho %)
 
cryptix420 said:
I wish the lawmakers could grasp the bigger picture. Or really everyone for that matter. Do they think they'll eventually get to a point where they can say "oh, ok guys, looks like we've got all the drugs under control now. good job men." i mean fuck.
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this is, sadly and hilariously, the mindset of most well-meaning individuals involved in drug regulation...afaik anyway


shishigami said:
Is there any evidence that something was wrong with this particular batch of 2C-E?

A difference in onset time by a few people could be unfamiliarity with the chemical or the fact that they were all doing enormous doses.
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i dont think there is any hard evidence that a particular batch is tainted...i think you are right that reduced onset time could easily be explained by a large dose... on the other hand (in this most recent event) at least 2 people were coughing up blood. That sounds to me like something was wrong with what they took (unreacted precursors?) because i've never heard of internal bleeding from any dose of 2c-e.... Delsyd said he took 100 mg with no physical harm...and there's an erowid report of a man smoking 100 mg and having a hard time but no blood or seizures.
so....its really unclear what the deal is... if these deaths were from pure 2c-e then the poor souls must have taken at least 100 mg (which doesnt make sense to me coz in both cases someone was trying to sell 2c-e for a profit and why would you ever sell more than 20 mg as a dose if you're trying to make money?)
in any event this has prompted me to sample a very cheap gram of 2c-e i got a few months ago.... just now dosed 15 mg... will definitely let yall know if it seems toxic somehow
 
twelvesevndi said:
in any event this has prompted me to sample a very cheap gram of 2c-e i got a few months ago.... just now dosed 15 mg... will definitely let yall know if it seems toxic somehow
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[i think some posts disappeared or i am really high...someone pointed out that dosing was a silly reaction to that news, and i responded that i usually take 25mg so 15 seemed like a good test dose....]
anyway.... i am fine and, having just had an amazing (and surprisingly intense) trip, i am more confused than ever about this scenario... intestinal discomfort, sure, but i don't understand how this stuff would make you start coughing up blood?

for public record i was also on ~50mg MXE, smoking cannabis, drinking tequila and beer, and take 50mg desvenlafaxine and 10 mg loratadine daily.
i was somewhat anxious on the come up as you can imagine ....especially when i couldnt stop coughing after a bowl =D
anyway...point being i tripped BALLS. price and quality DO NOT correlate in RC land
aaaand i guess maybe that just makes it more probable that it was somehow a straight 2C-E overdose? im still tripping so take this with a grain of salt. but what im thinking is... people are used to paying a certain amount of money to get a certain amount of return in LSD or mushrooms... in the USA, apparently, a gram of 2C-E can be purchased with an amount of money that would equate to 6 hits of acid ...i guess that worth mentioning maybe
 
gee i sure am glad i live in canada. no bills yet banning 2cx's or even cathinones and napthylindoles as far as i know. that right wing america dick riding twit harper got a majority though, so i wouldnt be surprised at all if he followed americas lead and passed a bill banning rc's. hopefully he doesnt though (knock on wood)
 
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