Ketamine Discussion- Quality and regional info

[ollieideal]

i agree wit evad in bristol, personally i have never taken the stuff but have had seen the drums bought in from china and india with 25k's in and the 5 or 3 k sacks with the silver stripe. delivered to a house rigth next to a cop shop the police even came out and asked the respectatable k dealers if they could hurry up wit the moving of the drums as it was backing up traffic.
last night i saw a very old pal for who've ive ot seen for yrs due to jail and <quit with the bulk price discussion please> well ,i did tell him many yrs ago do not go to s America on a coke run as u will be caught he did it he got caught, so last night was one of the main reasons i'd not seen him but he was full of his usual bravado about inconcievable amounr=ts of drugs that he can get but one simply has no interest in some one who now on his 40's has spent 20 yrs inside on big drug charges and one selling e's to an undercover copper at reclaim the streets bristol in the 90's....ah one man we call him that as he's a one man party well he was he's no longer called this as he's been away so long so pls don't edit. much love .if u got the cash decent k is out there £ i would certainly not pay more than £10 a g or <look, I mean it>. but i don't deal or take drugs thanks to bluelight.

 

[trammies]

I'm hoping to get some ket soon, I've always thought the effects look very very interesting. So, I'm going to try a look about for some stuff for after my exams this month.

 

[aaronmalone99]

can get a hold of some, but I'm worried about quality, IE- if I'm not taking ket, what the fuck I'm a taking?

and what should I be worried about other than an k-hole?

 

[acidliam]

Loads in Manchester, its as good as ever. Woo.

 

[Evad]

can get a hold of some, but I'm worried about quality, IE- if I'm not taking ket, what the fuck I'm a taking?

and what should I be worried about other than an k-hole?

k hole is nothing to worry about it's the best thing about ketamine by far

 

[SpecialK_]

can get a hold of some, but I'm worried about quality, IE- if I'm not taking ket, what the fuck I'm a taking?

and what should I be worried about other than an k-hole?

I've never encountered something else sold as ket. Only cutting reagents or poor quality ketamine.

Don't worry about anything, just sniff it and enjoy it mate! I recommend dosing about 100mg your first time just to get a feel for things. Or just do a few keys and see how you get on, the onset is quick anyway.

 

[ryanegg]

I've never encountered something else sold as ket. Only cutting reagents or poor quality ketamine.

Don't worry about anything, just sniff it and enjoy it mate! I recommend dosing about 100mg your first time just to get a feel for things. Or just do a few keys and see how you get on, the onset is quick anyway.

100mg for a first timer seriously?! First time I had it, I had alot less, probably like 40-50mg, and even thought that was a bit much, k hole was horrible.

 

[Evad]

were you drunk by any chance?

i'd recommend starting with tiny bits 20-50mg and if you're going to shoot for the hole 150mg should be enough for a first timer.

as long as you're prepared/comfortable a k-hole is one of the best drug experiences you'll ever have, up there with breaking through on dmt/peaking on acid imo.

 

[SpecialK_]

100mg for a first timer seriously?! First time I had it, I had alot less, probably like 40-50mg, and even thought that was a bit much, k hole was horrible.

Are you sure you k-holed on 100mg? Are you tiny by any chance in weight/size? Unless you were cooking up the k yourself and you were sensitive to the stuff I couldn't see that happening.

100mg is perfect, I prefer when I try a drug to have a good wack at it. I hate taking a dose and regretting not taking more, really dims what could be a fantastic time. Guess that methods not for everyone - certainly not on a harm reduction site.

 

[Evad]

used to be able to k-hole on 100mg or thereabouts when I started out and could feel 20mg or so pretty well. stuff cooked from vials can actually be lower & purity than ketamine crystal because some of the weight is preservatives from the vial.

100mg isn't a good starting dose for a first timer imo, it would be too wonky for someone who just wants a bit of wonk but not guaranteed to k-hole for someone who wants to hole.

 

[ryanegg]

were you drunk by any chance?

i'd recommend starting with tiny bits 20-50mg and if you're going to shoot for the hole 150mg should be enough for a first timer.

as long as you're prepared/comfortable a k-hole is one of the best drug experiences you'll ever have, up there with breaking through on dmt/peaking on acid imo.

I'd had a few koppabergs yea, not proper drunk but had a good few.

Are you sure you k-holed on 100mg? Are you tiny by any chance in weight/size? Unless you were cooking up the k yourself and you were sensitive to the stuff I couldn't see that happening.

100mg is perfect, I prefer when I try a drug to have a good wack at it. I hate taking a dose and regretting not taking more, really dims what could be a fantastic time. Guess that methods not for everyone - certainly not on a harm reduction site.

100% sure I holed lol, was just sitting in my room seen all the walls moving in, proper mental visuals while dribbling on my pillow hahah, lasted for about 10-15 mins but seemed never ending, was sick in my room and eventually got myself to the bathroom where I was puking for a good while. Few days later I thought i'd give it another bash, but in littler bumps and while I was out, was alot better, for about an hour seemed very similar to mandy, after i'd had another little key, i'd k-holed in the middle of a club which was definately no good haha. Ket's just not for me at all, I might of gone the wrong way of dosing and/or mixing with alcohol but still im not sure if i'd try it again. Also in regards to the purity of the ket, a few friends who are more experienced with it than me tried the same batch and said it blew their head off, might of just been overdoing it for a first timer!!

 

[SpecialK_]

I wouldn't recommend k and alcohol as a first time try on k, that's probably why. Although, I do love the mix myself.

Each to their own I guess.

 

[DS_]

So many people think they don't like ketamine but it's alcohol and ketamine they don't like. I personally love the combo.

 

[Jabberwocky]

100mg isn't a good starting dose for a first timer imo, it would be too wonky for someone who just wants a bit of wonk but not guaranteed to k-hole for someone who wants to hole.

it really depends on the ket. i did 0.5g with no/v little tolerance in half an hour and got nowhere near a hole, less than 0.1g of that stuff does v little. in bristol i accidentally did a line about double what i meant to (v odd mdma trippiness) and dunno where i went, don't remember the hole but apparently my friends were worried i wasn't breathing cos it was so light and slow. that line couldn't have been much more than 0.1g and i hadn't had much alcohol. though my boyf had almost identical to me all night, but some extra md, and was able to carry me up the stairs.

work up from small doses, at least you can tell quickly if its not done much and can top it up so you wont end up wasting the ket.

 

[Myshkin]

So many people think they don't like ketamine but it's alcohol and ketamine they don't like. I personally love the combo.

Very true. I think just like with drinking certain spirits, people can develop a mental block if they've had a bad alcohol and K experience.

I've had a couple of pretty horrific ones and it took me time to be able to appreciate proper K-hole doses again without feeling a little bit anxious. I'd still think twice about doing it when absolutely bladdered though.

 

[illuz1oN]

I've never tried ket,

I'm somewhat interested, but theres such a bad stigma associated with ket users I find... Puts me off it a bit.

 

[knock]

100% sure I holed lol, was just sitting in my room seen all the walls moving in, proper mental visuals while dribbling on my pillow hahah

Personally I wouldn't call that a k-hole, although you might just not be explaining yourself very well (and admittedly it is quite difficult to describe a k-hole). To me the k-hole is more like being dropped into a high-definition surrealist vision-scape where your body and the material world no longer exist. I certainly wouldn't consider the walls moving in as worth mentioning. But as I say it is very hard to describe properly!

It was quite shocking when it first happened to me, in a good way. At moments deeply worrying yet ultimately manageable and fascinating.

Booze and K seem to mix OK for me, but I may be in a minority.

I'm somewhat interested, but theres such a bad stigma associated with ket users I find... Puts me off it a bit.

Stigma = uninformed prejudice. There is a world of difference being watching a ketamine user and having a ketamine experience. Presumably the stigma comes from the watching, not the experience. Watching someone's body is not a great way to evaluate something which happens inside their head (one of the reasons I find most drug videos on youtube quite pointless and stupid).

Ketamine is not unadorned goodness, it can be addictive and damage your body, but I struggle to see any problem with moderate / sensible use.

Anyway I may have misunderstood what this ket stigma is about. If it's not the zombie thing or a generalisation from those who are doing so much they avoid real life, then please tell me.

 

[illuz1oN]

You understood what the stigma is about, but I guess that comes from absolute pillocks who think its okay to rack up lines in a club and find themselves in a k-hole shortly after. Saw it last November at a show, 4 guys bought a g and must have been used to cut-to-fuck ket - This was clearly uncut ket as after I saw the transaction, 10 minutes later 3 of the 4 users were in the hole, a 3rd was grasping onto reality and avoided the hole.

 

[DS_]

You understood what the stigma is about, but I guess that comes from absolute pillocks who think its okay to rack up lines in a club and find themselves in a k-hole shortly after. Saw it last November at a show, 4 guys bought a g and must have been used to cut-to-fuck ket - This was clearly uncut ket as after I saw the transaction, 10 minutes later 3 of the 4 users were in the hole, a 3rd was grasping onto reality and avoided the hole.

You're a fucking idiot.

 

[aaronmalone99]

Regarding the ket stigma, thats what my concern has been, my mates usually sort me out with things, but they refuse to help me with this, as they all claim to know people who've been fucked over or had their lifes ruined by it. These mates are heavy users of most drugs, had full blow meph addictions, so my reckoning is, if they are scared of it, and won't touch it, what the fuck is so dangerous about it?

I'm not saying anything is, I'm just trying to show my viewpoint and fear, though I'll readily accept that as a stigma