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2010-11 NBA Thread

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^yep, that's exactly why he was furious with Pau's play and hit him in the chest during the game while screaming at him 8)

Of course that quote looks defeatist and apathetic stripped from all context but Pau's head hasn't been in the game and they NEED his contribution to play to their potential. No amount of coaching is going to make Pau magically snap out of it and play as he should. Its not the only factor causing their struggles but that alone is certainly enough to swing a couple close games.
 
Pau has been shitty, yes. But at some point, the coaching staff has to be held accountable as well. Phil his made ZERO adjustments in this series. None. Coach Thibs must be sitting there laughing his ass off at our defensive scheme.
 
you cant coach your way out of the problems that pau has. apparently his gf broke up with him with speculation being because of kobe's wife? plus all bynums talk about team trust issues. there is a locker room drama going on that is between players.
 
^ exactly.

You can't argue with THIRTEEN rings. The guy is one of the greatest coaches in ANY sport and a pure competitor. You can adjust all you want but its the players that have to execute. They built a great team, they have great offense and defensive schemes but you can't blame Jackson for what's going on now.
 
How does OKC give up that lead today? WTF?
Very impressed with the Celtics but I think they'll loose game 4 at home.

Lakers? LOL. I wish I could go back and read earlier on in this thread where someone was still adamant about Kobe being like the grand messiah of basketball. Kobe is old news.
 
I'm impressed with Rondo coming back from a dislocated elbow. Dude has guts when he could just as easily been done for the rest of the game.

Nice to see the Cs get a game but I'm not sure they can win again with no bench help. KG went off and Bosh was nowhere to be seen or heard from.
 
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I'm impressed with Rondo coming back from a dislocated elbow. Dude has guts when he could just as easily been done for the rest of the game.

Nice to see the Cs get a game but I'm not sure they can win again with no bench help. KG went off and Bosh was nowhere to be seen or heard from.
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For all who saw the Bulls-Celts series, I'm sure you can all understand my loathing of Rondo - not getting a flagrant despite admitting after the game he wasn't going for the ball when smacking Brad Miller in the face disorienting him in a game-deciding play causing him to miss the final free throws (he was an 82% FT shooter) as well as throwing Hinrich into the scorer's tables for no reason and not even being ejected - and despite all of this even I was giving it up to Rondo tonight for that toughness.

He dislocated his fucking elbow and like 10 minutes later took a charge from a racing D. Wade. (I was in a bar and so I missed if a charge was called, it might've been a block but I'm sure anyone who watched the game knows the play I was referring to).
 
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For all who saw the Bulls-Celts series, I'm sure you can all understand my loathing of Rondo - not getting a flagrant despite admitting after the game he wasn't going for the ball when smacking Brad Miller in the face disorienting him in a game-deciding play causing him to miss the final free throws (he was an 82% FT shooter) as well as throwing Hinrich into the scorer's tables for no reason and not even being ejected - and despite all of this even I was giving it up to Rondo tonight for that toughness.

He dislocated his fucking elbow and like 10 minutes later took a charge from a racing D. Wade. (I was in a bar and so I missed if a charge was called, it might've been a block but I'm sure anyone who watched the game knows the play I was referring to).
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I know exactly what you mean about rondo. That play was fucking dirty against miller and the refs gave him a major bail out. seen plenty of dirty plays by rondo commited to the lakers and others, along with just this winey nature. Every time he falls to the ground he needs to stay there forever for the drama, kind of pual pierce wheelchair-ish.

but i agree. can not ever question his competative nature now. playing through pain like that. that was one for the books, a display of kobe like toughness,

still hate rondo though, but I can aprecciate the mans game
 
I've hated Rondo for beating my team many times, but that boy can play PG. he has gotten consistently better throughout his NBA tenure, although I do admit he hit a bit of a wall this season - but I blame that on no solid scoring or defending Boston big
 
yeah wierd because the first half of the season was phenominal for him. wasnt he averaging like 15 and 15? then boom really mediocre play down the stretch. still though, no one throws up those 20+ assists games like rondo (sorry cp3)
 
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^yeah he was averaging the highest assist average since Stockton for much of the season and then really dropped off from around 15 to 11... which is like saying someone went from averaging 38ppg to *only* averaging 30.

His numbers were partially inflated by some ridiculously high assist games which shows that he was generating too much of their offense and so I imagine teams made more adjustments to force the ball out of his hands and Boston started moving the ball more.
 
if pau doesnt snap the fuck out of it for tonight im going to shoot my tv. I mean really have some dignity for the dynasty you helped create.
 
Kobe is still the best overall player in the game. Wade is close, KD is close, and as much as I hate to say it, Lebron is close. In 2 years he won't be. KD will be one, Blake Griffin two and D Rose three. There won't be a game 7 Lovelife. You are out of your mind if you think that. Dallasis the better team this year.
 
^ your certainty in all of that is amusing. What are your exact criteria for determining the best overall player?

They just said on ABC, 3x a team down 3-0 has taken it to 7 games. I'm not saying I think that's going to happen, but if the lakers get determined enough and pull their shit together, they are capable of it. If they see this deficit as insurmountable and approach it in a half-assed, defeatist fashion then yeah, it'll be over today or in game 5 probably.
 
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Goddammit. I know The Heat are still going to beat the Celtics, but last nights game should not have been lost.


I do not know what is up with coach Spo and his insistence that Bibby and Zydrunas start, when both are clearly liabilities in that particular lineup and Chalmers and Anthony have proven themselves so well. Hopefully this game was a long term wake-up call, because we cannot afford to lose a game over this bullshit against Chicago.


And I don't just credit Rondo with playing dirty. The Celtics do. They have ever since the Big 3 arrived. Elbows to the head, dirty flops, you name it and they do it. They also tend to get away with it more often than any other team.

Even still, I don't think it brings them any great advantage. Rondo injured himself last night trying to pull some dirty shit on Wade, and dislocated his elbow. He still had a great game with one arm, but The Heat had already phoned it in (teams biggest flaw) and that injury ain't going away in before this playoff series is over. Heat wins in five, I didn't really expect a sweep but I thought we should have taken last night's game.
 
Regular season and postseason success combined with individual stats, potential, and affect on his teammates. Kobe gets the nod if you look at what he has done and how good he is as a player.
 
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Goddammit. I know The Heat are still going to beat the Celtics, but last nights game should not have been lost.


I do not know what is up with coach Spo and his insistence that Bibby and Zydrunas start, when both are clearly liabilities in that particular lineup and Chalmers and Anthony have proven themselves so well.
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yeah I use to wonder the same thing, the team has clearly played better in this post season with Joel in the middle than Z, and chalmers is much better than bibby right now. but I think spo's reasoning is if load up the starting line with them the heats bench will be defensively NO THREAT AT ALL. wade and james are killer defenders so they can round out bibby and z's slack, then Joel and chamers will lead you benches defensive battle.



ugh this game is already shit. end of first quarter shooting= Kobe: 6-8, rest of LA: 2-11 :p
 
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