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sakura.summers
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Take this into consideration as well. I only mentioned serotonin syndrome because it's a pretty risk. There are plenty of other risks as well, and it's a really dumb idea for you to take this risk because 'you haven't rolled in so long.'
If it's been so long anyways, what's waiting another month? If you're going off SSRIs anyways (which you should ask your doctor about before doing so btw) why not just wait to roll until you've been off them for longer? Also, I am aware of the other things that cause serotonin syndrome, but your using the logic of 'I've taken this risk before, and it hasn't been a problem yet, so I'll just keep on trying til it does.' You should really just wait a while, for your own safety.
i appreciate your concern... it's not very often that someone you don't know shows any kind of concern for you.... especially on the web. thanks again!
well... for all of you wondering how things went last night (or even if you're not wondering but gave me advice or have shown concern for my health/well being)... it really sucked... not just for me, but for my husband as well. my husband has never done e and the 3 times he has bought it, he has either been ripped off or his brain chemistry is so fucked up that it just doesn't have any effect on him aside from aggravation... or one or the other at seperate times. i, on the other hand, have taken e/molly plenty of times and at one point would have considered myself an experienced/moderate user of the substance... but that stopped when i was 18.
so... last night, we packed a tint, a matress, some blankets (as it was fucking cold outside, but i had never rolled outside, so i figured we'd give it a shot), a 47in tv, an xbox360, our laptop with some trippy electronic music, some visual stimulation (glowsticks and the sort), a vicks inhaler for sea breezes, and some movies, some suboxone, and some comfy clothes for the miserable e comedown. we were totally prepared for a good night of rolling. as i had mentioned before, we got 1g... i also had bought myself 3 hits of some pretty potent lsd (my husband is totally against that stuff as he figures that's the reason his brain's so fucked up and why he feels crazy, paranoid, and unsafe most days). i took one hit of the lsd, jumped in the shower, and then off to greenbo lake. we get there, set up the tent, opened the hatch of our jeep, set up the t.v. and the 360, got a fire going (at about 5pm), i ate another hit of lsd and we watched "easy A". after the movie, we each snorted 1/6 of the molly... and i ate my last hit of lsd. i turned on the music, we went out by the fire, and i started to feel that i was coming up... my husband, on the other hand, didn't feel ANYTHING (my husband is not prescribed any antidepressants... or any meds for that matter. i give him half of my suboxone every week, but we had not taken any for 2days... well, i hadn't anyway, don't know if he did or not). so i proceed to give him back rubs and all kinds of massages, shook him around a little bit, gave him a sea breeze, anything and everything i had picked up from rolling in the years before... still nothing. he got a bit aggravated and started to feel sick to his stomache and somewhat sleepy. i felt a slight roll type feeling for about 20-45min (not sure of the time frame due to the acid... but i know it wasn't long), so i kept trying to kick his in... then we both ended up falling asleep. not sure how that happened, i just woke up to him saying "what the fuck? we both fell asleep". then he said he started to feel something... i did not. so we did another 1/4 of the molly. i got the slight roll feeling again... and once again, tried to kick his roll in. it kinda worked for a sec. he said he started to feel something, his pupils were huge, and he was slightly more talkative than usual... but he said the feeling he has was something like taking a bunch of xanax bars. next thing i know, we're waking up and it's dark outside. now, i expected it to effect me funny due to the SSRIs... but there was no reason it should have done that to him. so, we split the rest of the gram and nothing. absolutely nothing. i don't know what happened... it just didn't work. so, by this point, we're both pissed cause we think we got burned. he kept saying he was feeling sick, like he snorted crack or something. this "molly" burned (as did the first batch of molly i ever did) like fucking fire, tasted like it had been cut with a shit ton of baking soda, and tasted like cocaine that had a ton of ether in it. so, i assumed, it was real considering i did feel like i was rolling for a short period of time, but that it had to have been stomped all to shit with cocaine and baking soday. he thought that the roll feeling was all in my head. i know that it wasn't though... like i said, i've done e before, and molly, and i know what it feels like to roll. i kept saying "i remember this feeling... just wait till we blow up"... but we never blew up. he never even really came up (or so he said), but i did... just nothing else. i know, you have to work to blow up and you have to work even harder once you've blown up to keep it going. i did everything i had done in my past roll experiences and all i got was the come up and then nothing but sleep. after we finished the gram and nothing happened, after about 2hrs of trying after that last line, we said fuck it and went to sleep. it definitely wasn't worth the cheese i threw down for it.
so, this morning, after getting pissed off cause we think we got burned and he had pseudo convinced me that the feeling was a psychosomatic thing, we take the tent down and load up the jeep to come home. we stopped at mcdonald's and got some breakfast, and then i looked at him and said, "let's go to a pharmacy and get an at home drug test." we go to cvs and the only drug test they had was a 1panel for bud. then, we went down the road to rite-aid and found a 12panel tested for marijuana, cocaine, amphetamine, methamphetamine, pcp, opiates, oxycodone, methadone, tricyclic antidepressants, benzos, barbituates, and mdma. we got home, i pissed in the cup and waited 5min (as instructed on the box), and low and behold, it comes up positive for methamphetamine, amphetamine, and mdma. so, yes it was real, and yes, i did feel an actual come up and roll type feeling for a short period of time. yes, i expected it to do me funny due to the zoloft (which, last i took was monday at 6am), but why would it have affected him the same way? that's what i can't figure out. he doesn't take anything but suboxone, but the mdma had no opiates in it, so the sub shouldn't have blocked anything in it even if he had taken it that day (which i'm almost positive that he didn't). we are going today to send off the drug test for confirmation. what i'm figuring has happened is that it was real... but either really shitty or very little actual mdma (or other drug like adulterants) and a shit ton of baking soda. either way, i'm disappointed that it didn't work, and i'm pissed that my "best friend" made off with my lute by telling me that when she did it that they had an "8 peopl roll pile, everyone rubbing on everyone else, and it was amazing!" it may have been my fault that i got semi burned, but she didn't have to lie to me. this girl has been my best friend for 13yrs. i know she was lying too, i truly don't know 8 people that would pile up on her... or with her for that matter... xtc fueled or not.
well, to all of those who told me "no, don't do it. it's a bad idea", you can go ahead and say "i fucking told you so" sorry i didn't take your advice. looking back on last nights events (and the other 2 times i had been ripped off on e in the past 2yrs), i shouldn't have bought the shit in the first place. i just figured that she wouldn't have led me to believe something that wasn't true, no matter what the subject... but, it just goes to show you can't trust anyone... no matter how close they are or how close you think they are. any feedback? i'm all ears.... or eyes, rather.
so... last night, we packed a tint, a matress, some blankets (as it was fucking cold outside, but i had never rolled outside, so i figured we'd give it a shot), a 47in tv, an xbox360, our laptop with some trippy electronic music, some visual stimulation (glowsticks and the sort), a vicks inhaler for sea breezes, and some movies, some suboxone, and some comfy clothes for the miserable e comedown. we were totally prepared for a good night of rolling. as i had mentioned before, we got 1g... i also had bought myself 3 hits of some pretty potent lsd (my husband is totally against that stuff as he figures that's the reason his brain's so fucked up and why he feels crazy, paranoid, and unsafe most days). i took one hit of the lsd, jumped in the shower, and then off to greenbo lake. we get there, set up the tent, opened the hatch of our jeep, set up the t.v. and the 360, got a fire going (at about 5pm), i ate another hit of lsd and we watched "easy A". after the movie, we each snorted 1/6 of the molly... and i ate my last hit of lsd. i turned on the music, we went out by the fire, and i started to feel that i was coming up... my husband, on the other hand, didn't feel ANYTHING (my husband is not prescribed any antidepressants... or any meds for that matter. i give him half of my suboxone every week, but we had not taken any for 2days... well, i hadn't anyway, don't know if he did or not). so i proceed to give him back rubs and all kinds of massages, shook him around a little bit, gave him a sea breeze, anything and everything i had picked up from rolling in the years before... still nothing. he got a bit aggravated and started to feel sick to his stomache and somewhat sleepy. i felt a slight roll type feeling for about 20-45min (not sure of the time frame due to the acid... but i know it wasn't long), so i kept trying to kick his in... then we both ended up falling asleep. not sure how that happened, i just woke up to him saying "what the fuck? we both fell asleep". then he said he started to feel something... i did not. so we did another 1/4 of the molly. i got the slight roll feeling again... and once again, tried to kick his roll in. it kinda worked for a sec. he said he started to feel something, his pupils were huge, and he was slightly more talkative than usual... but he said the feeling he has was something like taking a bunch of xanax bars. next thing i know, we're waking up and it's dark outside. now, i expected it to effect me funny due to the SSRIs... but there was no reason it should have done that to him. so, we split the rest of the gram and nothing. absolutely nothing. i don't know what happened... it just didn't work. so, by this point, we're both pissed cause we think we got burned. he kept saying he was feeling sick, like he snorted crack or something. this "molly" burned (as did the first batch of molly i ever did) like fucking fire, tasted like it had been cut with a shit ton of baking soda, and tasted like cocaine that had a ton of ether in it. so, i assumed, it was real considering i did feel like i was rolling for a short period of time, but that it had to have been stomped all to shit with cocaine and baking soday. he thought that the roll feeling was all in my head. i know that it wasn't though... like i said, i've done e before, and molly, and i know what it feels like to roll. i kept saying "i remember this feeling... just wait till we blow up"... but we never blew up. he never even really came up (or so he said), but i did... just nothing else. i know, you have to work to blow up and you have to work even harder once you've blown up to keep it going. i did everything i had done in my past roll experiences and all i got was the come up and then nothing but sleep. after we finished the gram and nothing happened, after about 2hrs of trying after that last line, we said fuck it and went to sleep. it definitely wasn't worth the cheese i threw down for it.
so, this morning, after getting pissed off cause we think we got burned and he had pseudo convinced me that the feeling was a psychosomatic thing, we take the tent down and load up the jeep to come home. we stopped at mcdonald's and got some breakfast, and then i looked at him and said, "let's go to a pharmacy and get an at home drug test." we go to cvs and the only drug test they had was a 1panel for bud. then, we went down the road to rite-aid and found a 12panel tested for marijuana, cocaine, amphetamine, methamphetamine, pcp, opiates, oxycodone, methadone, tricyclic antidepressants, benzos, barbituates, and mdma. we got home, i pissed in the cup and waited 5min (as instructed on the box), and low and behold, it comes up positive for methamphetamine, amphetamine, and mdma. so, yes it was real, and yes, i did feel an actual come up and roll type feeling for a short period of time. yes, i expected it to do me funny due to the zoloft (which, last i took was monday at 6am), but why would it have affected him the same way? that's what i can't figure out. he doesn't take anything but suboxone, but the mdma had no opiates in it, so the sub shouldn't have blocked anything in it even if he had taken it that day (which i'm almost positive that he didn't). we are going today to send off the drug test for confirmation. what i'm figuring has happened is that it was real... but either really shitty or very little actual mdma (or other drug like adulterants) and a shit ton of baking soda. either way, i'm disappointed that it didn't work, and i'm pissed that my "best friend" made off with my lute by telling me that when she did it that they had an "8 peopl roll pile, everyone rubbing on everyone else, and it was amazing!" it may have been my fault that i got semi burned, but she didn't have to lie to me. this girl has been my best friend for 13yrs. i know she was lying too, i truly don't know 8 people that would pile up on her... or with her for that matter... xtc fueled or not.
well, to all of those who told me "no, don't do it. it's a bad idea", you can go ahead and say "i fucking told you so" sorry i didn't take your advice. looking back on last nights events (and the other 2 times i had been ripped off on e in the past 2yrs), i shouldn't have bought the shit in the first place. i just figured that she wouldn't have led me to believe something that wasn't true, no matter what the subject... but, it just goes to show you can't trust anyone... no matter how close they are or how close you think they are. any feedback? i'm all ears.... or eyes, rather.
sakura.summers
Bluelighter
Well first off, that was nearly impossible to read, you should space it into paragraphs.
As far as your 'molly' goes, that was not good shit. If you tested positive for methamphetamine, amphetamine, and MDMA, that means it's cut. It probably had a very small amount of MDMA in it, but you were mostly meth bombed. You really need to invest in a test kit. This would have avoided you this entire problem.
Also, about your friend, I doubt she was actually lying. It's fairly easy to find 8 people on MDMA to pile on top of you. She probably got good stuff from the guy, and then assumed that what he has will always be good. This was probably just a different batch of stuff, unless of course she's actually a drug dealer herself, in which case she's likely just looking to make more money.
The moral of the story here is you shouldn't trust that a pill/powder/crystal is MDMA just because someone says it is, no matter who that person is. You should always test your stuff because, well, in all likelihood, the person who's telling you 'it's the best MDMA around' probably has no idea what's actually in it. Buy a test kit.
As far as your 'molly' goes, that was not good shit. If you tested positive for methamphetamine, amphetamine, and MDMA, that means it's cut. It probably had a very small amount of MDMA in it, but you were mostly meth bombed. You really need to invest in a test kit. This would have avoided you this entire problem.
Also, about your friend, I doubt she was actually lying. It's fairly easy to find 8 people on MDMA to pile on top of you. She probably got good stuff from the guy, and then assumed that what he has will always be good. This was probably just a different batch of stuff, unless of course she's actually a drug dealer herself, in which case she's likely just looking to make more money.
The moral of the story here is you shouldn't trust that a pill/powder/crystal is MDMA just because someone says it is, no matter who that person is. You should always test your stuff because, well, in all likelihood, the person who's telling you 'it's the best MDMA around' probably has no idea what's actually in it. Buy a test kit.
yeah... i defintely should have done that before hand. the problem is... no place near where i'm from sells them, i don't have a credit card, nor does anyone i know... which sucks cause there's a lot of stuff that could come in handy that i would have to buy off the net.
as far as the meth bomb thing goes, i'm pretty sure i would have felt a little speedy. there was no speed to what i felt other than the speediness of the acid... and the supposed molly killed that. i think what i got was probably enough for 1/8 of a roll, a 1/4 hit of speed, and the rest was baking soda... like i said, it burned like fucking fire and had a salty baking soda taste to it that overpowered the tiny bitter taste to it. the experience was pretty shitty.
but, for future reference (if i ever find/do any form of e again), i will definitely invest in a test kit. i doubt that she cut the stuff herself, but if she got the same shit that i got, there's no way anyone could have rolled on it... it was stomped way too much. but, then again, nothing would surprise me right now.
sakura.summers
Bluelighter
yeah... i defintely should have done that before hand. the problem is... no place near where i'm from sells them, i don't have a credit card, nor does anyone i know... which sucks cause there's a lot of stuff that could come in handy that i would have to buy off the net.
as far as the meth bomb thing goes, i'm pretty sure i would have felt a little speedy. there was no speed to what i felt other than the speediness of the acid... and the supposed molly killed that. i think what i got was probably enough for 1/8 of a roll, a 1/4 hit of speed, and the rest was baking soda... like i said, it burned like fucking fire and had a salty baking soda taste to it that overpowered the tiny bitter taste to it. the experience was pretty shitty.
but, for future reference (if i ever find/do any form of e again), i will definitely invest in a test kit. i doubt that she cut the stuff herself, but if she got the same shit that i got, there's no way anyone could have rolled on it... it was stomped way too much. but, then again, nothing would surprise me right now.
Get a credit or debit card, test kits are necessary nowadays.
As far as your friend goes, she may think she got the same stuff because she got it from the same dealer, but it was a different batch by the time she got some for you.
right on. yeah, i keep forgetting about the prepaid cards... my credit's fucked, so i can't get an actual credit card. lol.
i talked to her about the whole ordeal night before last... she said that the first time she did it, it made her really sleepy and all she did was sit at the bar and have a drink but that the second time she did it, she rolled hard cause she was candyflipping. i told her that there was no way if she had the same shit that she got for me because i was on 3hits of acid when i did it. idk. she probly did get a better batch. thanks again for all the help!
phatass
Bluelighter
no the sub will hardly affect the roll at all esp if ur used to aking it.. but if you've been taking zoloft for a while it will take a shitload of time to he out ur system