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Concerning Phenethylamine Use (2C-X Family Walkthrough)

Dravek218

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This will be my first post, so please bear with me here on BL.

I have used multiple forms of phenethylamines in experimental use, as well as a multitude of other substances and I must say that whence concerning the use of phenethylamines, that the differentiation factor lies within the prolonged usage and/or side effects of the substance, primarily concerning the 2C-X family. When working with a substance as potent as 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine, the one personal recommendation I have for anyone interested in researching the possibilities of its benefits, is to of course be careful (meaning that if you are weighing in at 180lbs and are stage I hypertension susceptible don't overdo yourself with anything pushing the 35 or 40mg range, because it CAN kill you), but aside from that point, to understand that like any other drug on the market avaliable, that it is made to alter the state of mind in which you reside on a continuated basis, NOT to get you so drawn out that you wish to do something you cannot undo like commit suicide or run through a three foot thick concrete wall.

WITH THAT BEING SAID

Let's start off by giving an underlying description of how the 2C-X family of phenethylamines work. Number one and above all, you need to understand that there are an increasing total of 2C phenethylamines available for research nowadays, and each one individually has its own set of action. For instance, 2C-B (now illegal in America, and due to the analogue act, so would be the rest of the family, if it weren't for the differentiating factors in the production and chemical molecular and biological makeup of the inidividual properties of the substances) will give you a much more different effect than say 2C-BZ or 2C-P, and so on. Many clients that have done extensive research with the substance report to have mild to severe hallucinations (depending on the amount ingested, the time of day, body weight, surroundings, psychological adversity and method of ingestion), as well as an immense euphoria lasting usually between 8-16 hours, much as the effects of 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA, X) however with very different effects, and no "base" to alter the composition of the experience. I personally have attributed the feelings of hapiness, and the strong bond that you have with all around you as to that of a small dose of unadulterated Lysergic Acid Diethylamide (LSD), mised with the feelings and emotions associated with MDMA. I have thus found that all things negative or that can be possibly percieved as negative to have a very positive outcome. For instance, the first time I engaged in my research, I was joined by two other colleagues, and we discussed a multitude of options concerning the afterlife scenario, the end of the world, the cosmic balance of physics, and questioned everything about those subjects in depth I had never engaged my mind to wander into. We had discovered that you work to fertilize your mother's egg, you work to physically produce in the womb, then whence completed, you work your way out of the womb, you grow up and work to learn and advance. You obtain a job hopefully with the degree in the field of your choice, and work at that job to become something you will never be, and then you die; and the worse part of it all is after you die, you work to decompose, and that death is sadly inevitable and the only garuntee in life, and we laughed and laughed at the sole fact that we were going to die, yet it was the most enlightening and worthwhile thing I believe I ever came across. However the use of phenethylamines is not for everyone by any stretch of the imagination. My advisory (to cover myself) is thus: "Concerning the use of phenethylamines, it is advisable that those who are at serious risks of heart attack or stroke, or have any form of hypertension, abnormalities or fluctuations in blood pressure, heart rhythm, or fluidity do not experiment with this substance. I also advise that those who have previous severe mental illnesses such ass chronic depression, suicidal/homicidal tendencies, bipolar, or those whom cannot properly level themselves whence concerning mood stability, emotional abnormalities, or changes in environment, do not experiment any form of the 2C-X family, due to the possibility of severe hallucinations. 2C-X family should only be taken initially (for the first time) under the supervision of a medical specialist and/or colleague to appropriate the dosage in conjunction with your specific body levels and mental synapses to ensure no overdosing and/or interference rises from the use. I admire the possible uses that phenethylamines may have when used to explore the atavistic mind of man, and hope you guys can give me some feedback on what your experiences were with the substance. DON'T DO DRUGS!!!
 
Dravek218, welcome to Bluelight!

Is this quoted from another source or did you write it yourself? Why is "work" bold?

I hope you find the irony in using the phrase "Don't Do Drugs!!" on a drug discussion forum.. ;)
 
Lmao, well thank you mod! Yes I actually did write this bit by bit piece by piece, thank ya. As for your inquisition, the word "work" is bold simply to stress the importance it had to my colleagues and I at the time we were researching the substance. It is to, I suppose show that we work continuously and emphasize the extremity of how work is in our lives, lol. Thank you for reading though, it means alot.
 
Why the 'dont do drugs' ??? Is that like a disclaimer?

What reason do you have to believe that something like 2C-B can be fatal in people with stage 1 hypertension, which is as far as I can tell little more than mildly elevated blood pressure?

I think this is overly dramatized and quite frankly I can only agree with the absolute basics of what you are saying, associations with LSD and MDMA have been made tons of times. Other descriptions seem like pretty general ones that can be attributed to most psychedelics. I am not trying to burn you for not writing something extraordinarily original, but I just have to be honest that I have not really read anything that impresses me as interesting info. However I really do respect that you have written this piece of summary-like text! Enjoy bluelight, and check erowid.org because there is so much information out there on these drugs already <3
 
Why the 'dont do drugs' ??? Is that like a disclaimer?

What reason do you have to believe that something like 2C-B can be fatal in people with stage 1 hypertension, which is as far as I can tell little more than mildly elevated blood pressure?

I think this is overly dramatized and quite frankly I can only agree with the absolute basics of what you are saying, associations with LSD and MDMA have been made tons of times. Other descriptions seem like pretty general ones that can be attributed to most psychedelics. I am not trying to burn you for not writing something extraordinarily original, but I just have to be honest that I have not really read anything that impresses me as interesting info. However I really do respect that you have written this piece of summary-like text! Enjoy bluelight, and check erowid.org because there is so much information out there on these drugs already <3

I see your point, and the reason for my reference to anyone with elevated blood pressure (stage I hypertension or more severe) is due to the fact that an increase in blood pressure often results in occassional lucidity of reality if untreated (especially in above room temperature conditions or heat from outside in the spring or summer, which is a large possiblity for teeneagers attracted to experimentation. I know this, for my younger brother has had bad blood pressure for years), which in turn (based upon the weight, metabolism, health, ect. there are a number of factors I am sure) of the individual, it may cause the abnormal breathing, hallucinations, ect to become more intense to the individual, thus a spike in blood pressure when experimenting along with an unstable mind could possibly result in undesired effects or worse is all, and I made no reference to fatality pertaining to the use of 2C-B, only that it may worsen the effects of the substance. It is still a very underground substance here when I reside, and I simply instituted that as a reference to warn those whom may have high blood pressure to be careful, as a disclaimer I suppose yes, because I do not promote repeated use of recreational substances that have no verifiable evaluation available to the public, but for experimentation, yes. I always try to make a point to cover as many things as I can to better caution anyone who may decide to experiment, and I would hate for someone to not think or be unknowledgable. But thank you for your input, I appreciate you reading :)
 
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I see your point, and the reason for my reference to anyone with elevated blood pressure (stage I hypertension or more severe) is due to the fact that an increase in blood pressure often results in occassional lucidity of reality if untreated (especially in above room temperature conditions or heat from outside in the spring or summer, which is a large possiblity for teeneagers attracted to experimentation. I know this, for my younger brother has had bad blood pressure for years), which in turn (based upon the weight, metabolism, health, ect. there are a number of factors I am sure) of the individual, it may cause the abnormal breathing, hallucinations, ect to become more intense to the individual, thus a spike in blood pressure when experimenting along with an unstable mind could possibly result in undesired effects or worse is all, and I made no reference to fatality pertaining to the use of 2C-B, only that it may worsen the effects of the substance.

then why did you say this?:

When working with a substance as potent as 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine, the one personal recommendation I have for anyone interested in researching the possibilities of its benefits, is to of course be careful (meaning that if you are weighing in at 180lbs and are stage I hypertension susceptible don't overdo yourself with anything pushing the 35 or 40mg range, because it CAN kill you)

It is still a very underground substance here when I reside, and I simply instituted that as a reference to warn those whom may have high blood pressure to be careful, as a disclaimer I suppose yes, because I do not promote repeated use of recreational substances that have no verifiable evaluation available to the public, but for experimentation, yes. I always try to make a point to cover as many things as I can to better caution anyone who may decide to experiment, and I would hate for someone to not think or be unknowledgable. But thank you for your input, I appreciate you reading :)

Saying be careful is something that both should go without saying ánd nonetheless cannot be said often enough.
People with problems regarding the cardiovascular, neurological, hepatic or nefrological systems (among others!) should indeed be extra careful and start lower and use smaller increments when upping the dose. But I wouldn't go so far as to say it would be terribly threatening, though phenethylamines are in essence a class of sympathomimetics and as such can cause stimulating effects.

Actual stimulants and empathogens would be far worse and I can more easily see someone getting serious complications if they are predisposed with illness.

Abnormal breathing can be associated with being stressed, being extraordinarily susceptible to effects of the sympathetic nervous system especially the adrenergic, causing things like hyperventilation. Hyperventilation in turn is associated with blood gases since hyperventilating causes you to absorb too much carbon dioxide from breathing fast, acidifying your blood and producing a negative feedback loop that sustains the vicious circle of a panic attack. I've been there myself.

And one more thing: please start using paragraphs in your writing otherwise I'm sure I am not the only one reluctant to read such patches of text. ;)
 
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