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What drug subcultures do you least like?

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In fact, I would say that, necessarily, anything you are using to self-medicate is by definition a drug. What does the cunning linguist say?

Haha, I agree with that, it was more just the argument for weed in that post :) Weed in particular always gets put on that "is it or is it not a drug?" position, and it shouldn't even be up for debate. It's a drug, period. And yes, medication of any kind, whether its prescribed by a doctor or yourself, is by definition a drug.
 
^ I have a hard time understanding how people could be so blind to that fact......

in my experience its mostly young kids who have this argument, but weed is everywhere here.....
 
alcoholics are much harder to clump into a "stereotype" because of that (so broad)

when we look at the mdma or lsd sub culture there is an immediate stereotype that pops into your head.......(we should keep in mind that users also come in all shapes)

I'd say most popular drugs have multiple subcultures, and most unpopular drugs don't have any at all. Drugs of a single subculture are not common, IME, with ayahuasca being a possible exception.

For every popular drug I've done, I've met groups of users, with rituals and rules and attitudes surrounding its use, that I've wanted nothing to do with, no matter how much I've enjoyed the drug.
 
^ i completely agree, but non drug users tend to stereo type crazy drug "addicts"......
 
I agree that MDMA is not THAT bad if you do it occasionally, and if yu can keep that up then good on you :).

The problem is tho, I don't know about everyone on here, but pretty much everyone I know IRL who has tried it has at least gone through phases of using it pretty much every weekend - I wouldn't have thought that is too good for you.

Also GHB is very easy on the body - I understood the problem with it was more the therapeutic window or whatever its called is extremely narrow.


I wouldn't dare take it 2 weekends in a row. I wouldn't be capable of functioning the next week lolll. I rolled twice 2 weekends ago (Friday and Saturday) and on the Saturday I felt like all the energy vaccuumed out of my body. I really had nothing left.

I respect my mind and my body enough to know that I need to give myself a break. Right now I'm respecting the one month rule since it's summer and a bunch of festivals are happening (especially where I'm from, there are LOTS of electro festivals and raves to attend with awesome groups and artists like Skrillex or Infected) but I'll cut back to once every three or four months after this summer.
 
I agree, I smoke pot daily and only usually use benzos daily as well...and I've had people tell me I "don't use any drugs except benzos daily" because pot isn't really a drug. It's mind altering, psychologically addicting, and it's clearly NOT true that it's benign and shouldn't be looked at as a drug. Even if you are using it to self-medicate (or those of you lucky enough, prescribed-medicate) it's STILL a drug.

this summed up what i hate most..also when people refer marijuana as dope....
 
Ketamine addicts.

This. Ketamine addicts are so common in my age group, and none of them can talk coherently. They all speak like theyve taken a spade to the face, like little Nicky.

I dont associate with opiate users purely cause of my ignorance to their culture. I'm sure there are smackheads who wont mug me. Unfortunately anyone who IVs is not someone I will associate with, which is a bit sad probably.
 
I used to think I disliked (all) coke people because at quite a lot of parties and raves I attend the coke and alcohol people are by far most likely to start agression / fights or touch women in private places, and its quite possible for about 10 of those at a 200 people rave to actually ruin the atmopshere in about half of the area. If I can name those people a drug subculture; those are the ones I dislike most, the ones who get too drunk and then compensate that with too much coke and/or speed and end up all agressive and overly confident with mild rapist tendancy's. There's not a lot that is more annoying to have happen then just having fun at some party, dancing a bit in the back of the dancefloor to suddently be touched between your legs without any warning or questions or whatever; then running away to the other side of the dancefloor hiding behind your boyfriend to find out the fucker is fóllowing you, then ofcourse running outside and remaining rather scared and 'what the fuck?!?!?!' for the rest of the night (happened while I was on lsd and ketamine, this is a horrible thing to have happen sober, its even worse while on LSD), also, it happened twice on different parties, and its always the cocaine crowd causing these problems, well I hate that 'drug-subculture' most..

I don't dislike all kinds of coke people though; there's these 'heavy metal' pub guitar cocaine and beer' type of friends I have and they do a lót of cocaine, half of them use it every day and one of my best friends is one of them and they're absolutely fine to hang around with while they drink and do coke, even though I don't do any cocaine and barely drink alcohol at all I end up having really good nights and fun conversations with them and the atmopshere is always relaxed; they are more talkative and can be a bit more dominant / pushy in conversation but these are polite and shy people sober and they don't loose all of their inhibitions so they're just fun to be around, so I can't and shouldn't put the blame for earlier mentioned agressive semi-rapists who ruin otherwise good parties on coke , there are plenty of people who do fine on it and it just happens to be their drug of choise, not mine, but I respect their choises and they respect mine and its all fine.

Other then that there's a few smaller ones

- People who think synthetic drugs are bad and plants are good; most drugs are made from the same elements, usually carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen and possibly oxide and possibly one of the halogens and maybe a few rare exceptions something else. If anything I prefer synthetic drugs, because they're óne substance and dosing is much more accurate.

- DMT entities hippie tree amazon ayahuasca people who are very enlightened and take all of their visuals and psychedelic thoughts véry serious. I know the nature of tryptamine psychedelics, and I know the type of thinking they often cause in people and I don't mind that; I like tryptamine psychedelics; but I don't like the people who take it too far, take it all too serious and think its much more then 5-HT2a and 5-HT2c and some more serotonin sub receptor agonism. I really, really dislike people who believe they actually communicate with entities/spirits and/or aliens; I think they're bordering on the psychotic and are at proper risk for psychosis etc. Don't get me wrong, I love psychedelics including tryptamines, but ayahuasca people who take their 'enlightenment' too serious annoy me.

- The 'I smoke weed, but I don't do drugs because drugs are bad' people, hypocrites. Same goes for the alcohol people who say the same thing only 'drink alcohol' instead of 'smoke weed'. I'm not saying they should do other drugs, just that they shouldn't be so hypocritical about it.

- I don't like seeing people get addicted to heroin, a few years back I had a boyfriend in england and about half of his friends ended up trying and then ending up addicted to heroin within a year and a few became homeless and more and I did not like what I was seeing there at all. I hope no one here ever decides to try it and that it stays away far from my friends and social circles. I don't have anything against people who do heroin, I just don't want my friends to become opiate addicts, because I've seen what that looks like and what the consequences can be and I don't want anyone I really care about to end up like that.

- I'm not a fan of alcoholics but mostly because my former best friend became pretty much an alcoholic and she WILL have korsakoff within 10-15 years if she goes on like this, every time I speak to her she's either drunk or hungover, she drinks every day and is drunk most days of the week and when she drinks she'll repeat the same sentence / story for about an hour, not hearing a word anyone else says, and then usually one or two hours later starts crying which can also easily last a few hours. Also my boyfriend drinks far too much and he is MUCH more dull and absent minded in periods when he drinks a lot then in more alcohol-sober periods, I also notice some very small early hints of korsakoff-ish behavior in them (not remembering something properly, then confincing themselves of a false memory and sticking by that one even though everyone else can confirm their version is very incorrect, that's a sign of korsakoff and its scary that my friends at 22 and 24 already do that on a regular basis, and the frequency of such crap is building up too). I also hate large groups of drunk people; drunk people are sloppy, leave a terrible mess wherever they go and worst of all don't seem to realise the state they are in; I rarely feel comfortable in a large crowd where everyone is drunk, actually I might dislike the alcohol culture most of all if I think of it. Its hard because not nearly all people who drink are annoying, people on small amounts of alcohol are rarely annoying at all and I also know plenty of people who drink a lot occaionally but not daily by any means that are absolutely fine with nothing negative to notice, but in general I avoid bars, pubs and national events involving 100.000 drunk people.

Just to clarify; I don't mind other people's choises, just posting my opinions about them but I don't want to tell anyone what to do or what not to do, everyone has different drugs that work for them; that they prefer and everyone should be absolutely free to make their own choises :)
 
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-Dope heads (Opiates, Opioids) Not much to say other then HERP DERRRRP!

-Weed Zealots, you know the ones who claim weed is a miracle, and it's a cure to everything, on top of that nonsense they say how it's not addicting or habit forming. LMFAO! I'm pretty sure I dislike them more than Dope heads, because of their sheer ignorance and stupidity.
 
"Pot is not a drug" people
"I don't take synthetic drugs" people

The people who do psyches and take their experience too seriously. Like having delusional ideas/theories after post-tripping, and then thinking they're now geniuses.
 
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The people who do psyches and take their experience too seriously. Like having delusional ideas/theories after post-tripping, and then thinking they're now geniuses.

Those people are so annoying.
Yes you took a psychedelic.
Yes you expanded your mind.
No, you are not Stephen Hawking now...
 
dude, you are looking in the wrong places. Most E pills contain at least some MDMA. http://www.ecstasydata.org/ at least 70% of them have MDMA in them


I checked pillreports for all the pills I've ever done or had access to (new user, so about 12 pills total) and only one of them reported positive for MDMA. Most pills I've looked up on pillreports ends up being pipes or amps. Not MDMA. Rarely have I seen MDMA-rich E pills.

And to Azgaza: Took the time to read the whole post and I agree with you in all areas except for the psychonauts. The DMT/ayahuasca/LSD trippers who report out of body experiences or whose trips have changed their lives and who take the trip seriously. MDMA changed the way I see things and it's nowhere near being as strong a hallucinogen as 'cid or DMT. These substances have a way of changing your perception of things and therefore shed new light on the way the world works. There's so much about the brain we don't understand that it's wrong to see these people as loonies and crazy-tards.

I agree that some of them take it too far and it becomes their holy bible and swear by nothing else than what they've lived through on the drug and claim it to be true. Those people can be annoying because no one knows anything for sure.

Terrance McKenna, Joe Rogan, Graham Hancock... all highly intelligent people with amazing theories and experiences to help push our thinking in new directions. It's kind of humbling, imo. Take everything with a grain of salt, but don't reject other people's experience because it doesn't coincide with your experience, opinions or beliefs.

I've never done LSD or DMT but WILL try them when I can get my hands on it, I'm really just speaking out of my own personal opinions on the matter.

But for the rest of your post, I absolutely agree with everything you said :)
 
Ok, I think I've finally decided on my most hated drug subculture... the ones (usually teens) who try to get high on everything they can get their hands on. Even drugs that aren't remotely recreational. They're the type who raid their parents medicine cabinets, drinking cough syrup for the DXM and hoping to get a buzz from prozac.

I have to agree with this one here. I'm still a teenager (I'll be nineteen in another month, one year to go before I'm out of that stereotype.) and I don't do that but I've had friends who did and it pisses me off. You out of weed? go do some homework, chill with buddies or take up a hobby that doesn't involve drugs. I promise you can live without popping your mom's extra strength ibuprofen and chugging nyquil. God.

Also, I don't have a hated subculture, I just think there are extremes in every one. I agree about the hippie stoners who hate anything that isn't weed because weed is natural and healthy and you can't get addicted blah blah blah. it's still a drug, people...

I personally haven't tried ecstacy yet but I seriously want to and rave type subculture sounds like a blast.

Peace!
 
I cannot take seriously anyone who says they use "bath salts."

Call the drug by its proper name!
 
i've done "bath salts" before P, do you hate me?
(ive never BOUGHT them, and iknow they is MDPV lols)
i use quotes when i refer to em on BL here, dont discuss such matters IRL
 
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