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Adderall and Oxymorphone Safe To Mix ?

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RoxisLover

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I know adderall and oxy/hydro is fine because I do it quite often. So I assumed this would be fine but I wanted to make sure before I ingested them.

Also, I was curious to know if anyone has ever been scripted oxy along with adderall by the same doc. Just curious as to how safe it is since I've been doing it quite often.

Thanks
 
I was on adderall but then once I got scripted opanas my doc took me off them. Not because it's dangerous but because he found out I was doing dope, and frankly I'm amazed he even gave me opanas and roxys. But he said adderall was too abusable and that he was gonna start me on Vyvanse but then I left that dr. Now I have to jump a buncha hoops and get re-tested for ADD... Should be pretty easy. "can you focus?" NO
 
One of the best combos out there. I used to crush a 40 along with a 30 of adderall, put it in a syringe and plug it. One of the best, if not the best, physical highs. My favorite in fact, which is why it did me in. You're real concern with this mixture should be about the addiction aspect, but you already know that. Understand that Opana withdrawals are harsher than oxy or heroin, and especially if mixed with another drug. Using this stuff safely requires a high level of self awareness and discipline - way more than I have, which is why I never went back to it.

Stay safe.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
People combine opiates and stimulants all the time.

It's safe as long as using either one by themselves is safe, and you don't overdo the dosages.
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Exactly. Don't take more of either of the drugs that you would take by themselves.

Because the stimulants mask the depressant effects of the opiates and the opiates mask the stimulant effects of the...amphetamines (Adderall), some people take more of each and that could result in an overdose situation.

If you're smart with the dosages like Captain.Heroin mentioned, you will be fine.
 
^good post.

Pretty basic stuff so let's send this over to Basic Drug Discussion. Keep the doses reasonable and you're fine :)


OD>>>BDD
 
Short answer to your question is NO, it is not safe to mix a powerful stimulant with a powerful depressant (in this case an opiate) - especially if you have any sort of heart condition, high blood pressure, low blood pressure, cholesterol, etc.

However, as others have already mentioned it's commonly done and as long as there is no major heart problems, it's 'okay' to do in the right dosages.
 
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Not that safe cuz uppers make you heart beat faster; while opiates slow it down this would also put a lot of stress on your heart.
 
Psychedelic Jay said:
This is far from the truth...

Benzos and barbiturates are sometimes used in emergency setting for stimulant overdoses...
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Benzos, not opioids. There's a difference.

It's a well known fact that any kind of upper mixed with an opiate is highly dangerous and potentially fatal. This is especially true of cocaine because of its short course of action. It's not much safer with amphetamines either because amphetamines are very taxing on the heart and last long.
 
kokaino said:
Benzos, not opioids. There's a difference.

It's a well known fact that any kind of upper mixed with an opiate is highly dangerous and potentially fatal. This is especially true of cocaine because of its short course of action. It's not much safer with amphetamines either because amphetamines are very taxing on the heart and last long.
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Obviously the emergency room is not going to inject you with a highly-abusive euphoric drug just to calm you down. They are not there to get you high.

People tend to apply this "heart taxing" with mixing all stimulants and depressants. It simply can't be applied that way in certain cases.

The prominent dangers are: Respiratory failure from the opiate; Heart attack and/or stroke from the stimulant; Seizures from the combination. This is if either are not dosed at appropriate times or overdosed and/or there is a condition that is relevant to the cause...
 
Psychedelic Jay said:
Obviously the emergency room is not going to inject you with a highly-abusive euphoric drug just to calm you down. They are not there to get you high.

People tend to apply this "heart taxing" with mixing all stimulants and depressants. It simply can't be applied that way in certain cases.

The prominent dangers are: Respiratory failure from the opiate; Heart attack and/or stroke from the stimulant; Seizures from the combination. This is if either are not dosed at appropriate times or overdosed and/or there is a condition that is relevant to the cause...
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The dangers of respiratory arrest from the opiate and a heart attack/stroke from the stimulant are greatly amplified when the drugs are mixed together.

The greater danger is usually the stimulant, especially if it's cocaine as it is cardiotoxic. Anyone with certain heart conditions, high blood pressure, etc is in great danger of having a fatal heart attack.

Imagine a 350 lb addict doing up a speedball, or worse combining methamphetamine with heroin. Heart attack on the spot.

The danger comes from the brain getting mixed messages. The stimulant stimulates the sympathetic nervous system, while the opiate stimulates the parasympathetic nervous system. So the brain is sending the cardiovascular system mixed messages because both drugs stimulate different parts of the CNS. These mixed messages will easily cause dangerous arrhythmias.

This practice of combining stimulants and opiates is really dangerous and I don't want you to diminish or minimize any of that danger.
 
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kokaino said:
The dangers of respiratory arrest from the opiate and a heart attack/stroke from the stimulant are greatly amplified when the drugs are mixed together.*

The greater danger is usually the stimulant, especially if it's cocaine as it is cardiotoxic. Anyone with certain heart conditions, high blood pressure, etc is in great danger of having a fatal heart attack.

Imagine a 350 lb addict doing up a speedball, or worse combining methamphetamine with heroin. Heart attack on the spot.

The danger comes from the brain getting mixed messages. The stimulant stimulates the sympathetic nervous system, while the opiate stimulates the parasympathetic nervous system. So the brain is sending the cardiovascular system mixed messages because both drugs stimulate different parts of the CNS. These mixed messages will easily cause dangerous arrhythmias.

This practice of combining stimulants and opiates is really dangerous and I don't want you to diminish or minimize any of that danger.**
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* They are not enhanced, but rather ignored.
**This is far from what I am trying to do. Exaggerating the facts simply isn't helping anything either. I can't stress this enough. Your brain of course in fact, it is getting the greater effects of both of the drugs. One drug is always going to get the overall effects gauge...

Of course they are going to cancel each other out one way or another. The main goal of even combining such drugs is to enhance overall euphoria and to even things out. But there are so many factors that come into play.

Normal healthy people can tolerate the extremes of speed-balling. I myself and even you have said this.

There is more reasoning to be involved, you can point out dangers all day long. The government and various other groups have done this... What makes you think you will have any greater effect than any of them?

I never went against you. I never typed anything to say that it wasn't dangerous.
But, if you are a healthy individual, there are problems that you have naturally avoided. <<<That is all I was saying.
 
^ Good, so we agree. It's a dangerous practice, but healthy individuals can handle it - up to a certain point.
 
holy shit....... thats one kickass high. it would be better with dex/meth than the lower tier adderall, but itll still get you whacked. did oxymorphone once, fucking potent ass shit. had me throwin up like a motherfucker. add an amph upper, thats jammpacked.

safe? yea, proly. as long as you dont do to much. monitor your dose.
but if youre addicted to both of these, itll be really bad. you will be in very bad shape, the best thing you can do it get off immediately.
 
^You make a good point, stimulant addiction is bad, opiate addiction is worse.

Don't want to make a habit of mixing these two all the time, as you'll end up with two bad withdrawal syndromes to deal with instead of just one...
 
pharm. speedballs aren't that good, and imo they waste the opiates because the adderall will overpower the opiates, or atleast for me and i didn't get much from adding 30mg hydrocodone 2mg klonopin 30mg oxycodone and 20mg adderall...i only felt the speedy effects and never felt any euphoria...i would dose the addie wait 8-12hours and then dose the oxymorphone...
 
Regardless of which addiction is worse (btw, I believe methamphetamine addiction to be the worst of all), opiates and stimulants like dextroamphetamine and methamphetamine and cocaine stimulate different parts of the autonomic nervous system, which causes the brain to send different signals to the cardiovascular system - causing arrhythmia's. Arrhythmia's are very, very common when a powerful stimulant and a powerful opiate are mixed together and used. Arrhythmia's aren't fatal on their own, but they certainly can be if the stimulant dose is high enough.
 
They may not be "that good" compared to the true speedball, but they're certainly much safer, as kokaino described in detail above. ^

It's even more common practice for people to use opiates to come down off uppers.

As far as 30mg hydrocodone, 30mg oxycodone, 2mg clonazepam and 20mg mixed amphetamine salts (Adderall) goes, I imagine you've got a tolerance for the opiates?

Also, mixing oxycodone, which is considered by many to be one of the more stimulating opiates with a stimulant will most likely enhance the stimulating effects.
 
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