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Best cactus for mescaline extraction

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carltonville

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So i'm thinking about making mescaline. I don't have access to any peyote cacti so i have to settle for less concentrated cactus. What is the best type of cactus to use for extraction? i was thinking about doing an a/b extraction.
 
I think they're all pretty good, if you get a good one. They all have bad ones too, it really depends on the individual cactus. SP/ PT are the logical first choices...
 
Yes that seems to be the consensus, though I have heard that Peruvian Torch can really surpass San Pedro it depends on the growth conditions, age, size, and other factors that differ between specimen.
 
My personal favorite is T. Bridgesii/"Achuma" - always had quite a fantastic trip eating them (never did an extraction though) and they were always easiest to skin/prepare.

Didn't like San Pedro personally... weaker experience and it was hellish to deskin. I haven't tried Peruvian Torch though - probably next on my list to try.
 
IamMe90 said:
My personal favorite is T. Bridgesii/"Achuma" - always had quite a fantastic trip eating them (never did an extraction though) and they were always easiest to skin/prepare.

Didn't like San Pedro personally... weaker experience and it was hellish to deskin. I haven't tried Peruvian Torch though - probably next on my list to try.
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Of course a lot of people have their personal favorites, but let's not forget that if we want to generalize here (to come to the most accurate expectation of a cactus species) what it boils down to is the average alkaloid content. Qualitatively as well as quantitatively that is.

The best we can do is look at the data available to us and studies on the data listing average percentages of mescaline and other compounds. I seem to remember that on paper Peruvian Torch cacti contain more alkaloids (i.e. quantitatively), but that does not even mean that the average person prefers the average Peruvian Torch preparation over San Pedro because there can be a significant qualitative difference.

All I am saying is that it is probably the smartest to look at the numbers that can tell you about the potency, and if we could to look at the average opinion of people who have tried a great number of San Pedro preparations as well as Peruvian Torch and a lot of others. If there are enough datapoints the opinions become more meaningful. If not, we are mostly listening to the opinions of people who have incidental experiences that give them a strong preference while it may not be statistically fair.

This goes for many other sorts of opinions than only mushroom or cacti species compared. Just be aware that opinions should not be too strongly biased, only based on limited information. Yes it's all we got most of the time but that does not mean that it's not smart to take a moment to consider this every once in a while.
 
I prepared san pedro by grinding in blender then boil for 4 hours. Then strain and mash throw excess solids and pulp. Enjoy the tasty tea
 
Help please

hyfe said:
I prepared san pedro by grinding in blender then boil for 4 hours. Then strain and mash throw excess solids and pulp. Enjoy the tasty tea
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Last weekend had shrooms for the 1st time in 20 odd years. Always were my favourite. Had a fantastic 4hrs. My problem is I'm not on to it enough to source these for myself.. too scared I'm going to pick the wrong shit & shut bodily functions down.

What I do have in abundance is P/Torch (I think.. as I was informed). Do not want to use chemicals to extract pure Mesc. I do like your basic method.

My biggest Q is.. after peeling, & do I remove spikes also? how much of remainder do I use in blender?? All of? Core only? Mushy part only? Please forgive my ignorance.

Your assistance in this matter I would appreciate more than you could believe.
 
You can keep the spikes on but theres no alkaloids in them so you might as well remove them. Alkaloid content varies greatly so no objective answer can be given with regards to amount/weight.

You'd just cut up your san pedro into slices, and put them in a blender with some water, then add more water and boil it up.
 
I've personally tried all three and had amazing experiences with all of them(San Pedro, peruvian torch, and t. bridgesi).

Everytime resulted in a crude extract via ethanol and dried cacti powder. 100grams(dehydrated powder) of each resulted in similar trip intensity. I recommend starting with >50-60grams.

Oh to clarify I used the powdered cacti to get the crude extract. The crude extract all varied from from 1-5 grams I believe but that's a guess.
 
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Well tried the stated method.. sorry, but no cigar! No way I could ingest the amount required to bring it on.. really hard work. If I do ever bother again I think I'll go for the full extraction, something that is @ least palatable. I really like what it's described as having, but not like that. Incidentally, had another shroom experience 2 days ago! I have never been to where that took me! Scared the crap out of me but I still kept laughing.. until I finally managed to crawl into my bed where I thought I may die happily.. really was something else!!
 
I just boiled SP / PT whole - spines and all - for about two days, reducing 24 30-cm (1 ft) cacti to a single glass of fluid. No prep time needed.
I poured the fluid into an ice cube tray in 12 equal portions.
1 portion = 2 cacti.
Swallow with held breath to minimize flavor.
Take with food for easiest digestion.
Takes 3 hours to come on fully (smoke a bowl to shoot it up higher!) ;
lasts 9 hours or so.
A lovely way to spend a day.
Possibly my favorite drug of all? (especially when cannabis is used to highlight and augment the experience)
 
Solipsis said:
I seem to remember that on paper Peruvian Torch cacti contain more alkaloids (i.e. quantitatively), but that does not even mean that the average person prefers the average Peruvian Torch preparation over San Pedro because there can be a significant qualitative difference.
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I thought there was only half a dozen or so other alkaloids in pedro (not sure about torch but I think it's the same). Not like the 50-odd in Peyote. And I don't know how much the other alkaloids affect the experience - are any of them likely to be noticeable above the power of mescaline? Or is it like adding a pinch of ginseng to a gallon of vodka and thinking you can notice the ginseng?

Obviously people are going to say "I had a different trip with this one as opposed to that one.." but it might just be placebo.
 
T. brigesii is the best, usually has a higher alk profile and in my garden is fastest growing. This plus a good strain equals the cactus you want to grow.

I have heard that san pedro has a different alk profile that is more inclined to euphoria as opposed to bridey's supposedly darker experience. A frined has described it like the difference between Psilocybe cubensis versus P. subs

I love my bridgesii
 
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