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My room mate is supertripping on DOC

2. Demand payment for new fish and emotional damage incurred.

Seriously, I would rather kick my friend in the balls for the emotional damage than ask for monetary compensation. :D Would you sue the guy if he doesn't budge?

About the cold environment for fishes used to cold water (but not *that* cold): they usually die slowly. Conversely, the most 'humane' way to euthanize cold-water fishes is to throw them in boiling water and throw warm-water fishes in near-freezing temperature. Anyway that was my conclusion after researching the best way to do it.
I guess using an explosive to euthanize would also be rather quick but I probably would feel 'fishy' about that.
 
I'm sure it made perfectly good sense to him at the time... But slapping him with a dead fish of some sort may make you feel better ;) Tilapia perhaps? I'd wait til he's done tripping though, kinda difficult to communicate otherwise.

Yeah definitely wait. I'm not sure how I'd respond to being slapped in the face with a dead fish while tripping face on DOC. I'd imagine it would be interesting, though.
 
What an amazingly compassionate support group! 20 messages in just a few hours offering advice and consolations on loosing a goldfish. LOL - This is pretty classic.

That's what I thought too, but it's not about the goldfish, it's the whole principle of the thing.


Fucked up or not, you don't fuck with other people's property, whether it's a pet fish or a vehicle.
 
Hahaha thanks for the compassion guy, yeah it was just a cheap wal-mart fish but for someone used to having happy pets to come home to his whole life..it's a little sad to know I won't be coming home to my fish anymore. screw these apartments for not allowing dogs. and those of you who don't think a fish has personality, you're obviously not looking hard enough.

And yeah, it's also more of the principle.. He didn't even bring the bowl back at first either hahaha, I asked him to go back and get it.

Going to go get a new one today though, and feeling in higher spirits since the weather isn't as god awful as yesterday. I'm going to put a sign on his bowl saying "do not liberate" this time I think.
 
haahah i just have this image of you sitting quietly in the corner smiling "positive vibes" at him, then the minute he sits down with you saying "whoa....that was a crazy trip" you leap out of your chair and start bashing his head into the table
 
DUDE ARE YOU fucking SERIOUS ??

HE KILLED YOUR GOLDFISH AND UR JUST GUNNA LET HIM GO ON LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED?

he is tripping balls right now, fuck with his head. tell him his whole family just died and he's next. proceed to start the chainsaw you have prepared for this kind of situation. torment him first, make him beg for mercy. then you must slowly saw through both of his legs - this will make him realize it was more than a goldfish.

next you want to hammer both of his hands into the ground and scream LOOK IN MY FUCKING EYES !!! he would most definently be crying at this point so it is imperitve that you slap him around and make him look at you.

grab him by the throat and say "you owe me a new fuckin goldfish, pal"
 
DUDE ARE YOU fucking SERIOUS ??

HE KILLED YOUR GOLDFISH AND UR JUST GUNNA LET HIM GO ON LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED?

he is tripping balls right now, fuck with his head. tell him his whole family just died and he's next. proceed to start the chainsaw you have prepared for this kind of situation. torment him first, make him beg for mercy. then you must slowly saw through both of his legs - this will make him realize it was more than a goldfish.

next you want to hammer both of his hands into the ground and scream LOOK IN MY FUCKING EYES !!! he would most definently be crying at this point so it is imperitve that you slap him around and make him look at you.

grab him by the throat and say "you owe me a new fuckin goldfish, pal"
Wow. I've never seen anyone try so hard.


On another note, fucking with someone while they're tripping isn't even funny. That's a low blow in it's own category. Even messing with someone while stoned is frowned upon, let alone tripping on a chemical synthesized in fuck knows where. I don't think I would ever give someone a hard time if they couldn't hold their shit together, I'd at least wait until their sober.
 
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lol monetary compensation? between friends?

my best mate has recently busted no less than 2 of my scales, and the other night, there was 3 grams of 4-FA resting on paper that i was about to split into individual gel-caps, he knocked it on the floor and it went EVERYWHERE.

there was that initial moment of 'oh fucking no!!!!'
and then all i could do was laugh.

he didnt mean it. hes just a walking disaster area, even more so than i am.
 
What does the location of the chemical synthesis have to do with the ethics of fucking with one's mind? :\

Because the long term effects of the chemical aren't understood.

I'd never feel comfortable doing something that was made by someone somewhere somehow illegally. Some random ass chemical. That's just asking for problems. Who needs the hassle? Might as well just stick to the well known psychedelics.
 
my best mate has recently busted no less than 2 of my scales, and the other night, there was 3 grams of 4-FA resting on paper that i was about to split into individual gel-caps, he knocked it on the floor and it went EVERYWHERE.
Three points to consider:
- The events listed in your post are accidents, the roommate of the OP deliberately fucked with his fish.
- You are talking about your best buddy here. Probably a lot of these accidents have happened over the years so you learn to live with it, and you both have deserved a hell lot of credit from eachother. The OP was just referring to his 'roommate', nothing more.
- Scales and 4-FMP are not living things, and it is even harder to get emotionally attached to a scale than to a fish (although I am severely emotionally attached to my first scale, but even if it were broken I could still keep it of course). Breaking a simple object is just something else than 'breaking' a living object, wether it's a fish, a child or a spider.

That said, my post was meant jokingly with only a small layer of seriousness underneath. :)
 
Because the long term effects of the chemical aren't understood.

I'd never feel comfortable doing something that was made by someone somewhere somehow illegally. Some random ass chemical. That's just asking for problems. Who needs the hassle? Might as well just stick to the well known psychedelics.

Pretty sure that still has nothing to do with fucking with someone's mind when they've already voluntarily ingested the chemical.

And you're probably pretty much in the wrong forum to be extolling the virtues of abstaining from research chemicals.
 
Pretty sure that still has nothing to do with fucking with someone's mind when they've already voluntarily ingested the chemical
I was of this opinion too, until I gave it some further thought. DOC is of course a psychedelic amphetamine, meaning it can be quite heavy on the cardiovascular system. So fucking with somebodies mind while they are tripping on DOC is definitely another league than someone tripping on a tryptamine, since DOC puts far more strain on the heart.

However, I don't suppose Voxide employed the same reasoning. He sounds like he thinks LSD is still made at Sandoz or something. As if RCs are the only chemicals made illegally/by someone/somewhere... :|

BTW, LOL at reading 'random ass chemical' while I farted. =D
 
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