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The Social Psychonaut

thoughtsUnThought said:
i thought a guy was trying to rape me at a festival, so i punched him in the face...
and i'm the most loving peaceful guy on this side of the planet :D
trips can make us respond sporadically...
but i would suggest doing some serious meditation on the issue before reproaching psychedelics. the only violent moment i had was fairly understandable in retrospect...a sketchy back room, dirty mattress on the floor, beer bottles strewn around, and some big guy who i'd never met sitting down next to me saying 'it's gonna be ok' wtih a femenine voice as he scoots closer to me...lol, how did i get here...where am i?...who is this fucker making a pass on me....FIGHT OR FLIGHT!!!
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LOL dude I had a hearty laugh at that, so great. The girl told menthe next day I was saying "you're coming with me", I know for a fact I really wanted to fuck her asshole that night. Ahhhhhh yes, memories indeed... Or a lack if them ;)

Am i really the only one here who has blacked out on good dose?
 
It's quite uncommon, most of the acid blackouts involve benzodiazepines, opiates and/or alcohol.
Like I already said it happened to me but I had alprazolam which is a benzo.

Did you have anything else before you blacked out?
 
QuasiModo said:
I honestly just want the LSD euphoria without the wildcard that is dosage on tabs....
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Others may disagree with me here, but I say there is no such thing as taking psychedelics without a bit of "wildcard" element.

What I mean is, these drugs by their very nature can cause unpredictable crazy experiences. They aren't euphoriants. Psychedelic euphoria happens, and it's awesome, but you can't chase after it so easily.

And as for taking 2C-T-7, I find it is especially unpredictable. It is one of the most unpredictable psychedelics I have ever taken. At low doses it can produce euphoria. Some of the time. Other low dose effects can include dysphoria, nausea and muscle tension, light sensitivity. Higher doses of 2C-T-7 have a history of causing delerium. When 2C-T-7 is working nicely though, its a really great drug.

I think 2C-T-7 is more of a "find a nice comfortable level to work with and don't push the envelope toooo much with this one" kind of a psychedelic. Less is more if you will. It has an extremely rich spectrum of effects which it can produce, and a particularly unique feeling psychedelic space, coupled with intense body load and long duration. All that plus the risk of delerium at high doses makes me particuarly cautious with this one.
 
Definitely agreed about the 2C-T-7. I find it a bit strange how I described it as being prone to cause deliriums and you become interested in it, Quasi. That's very counterproductive for your case.

Yes psychedelics have an element of unpredictability in them, but he said 'wildcard of DOSES on tabs', which has an easy solution: try them in a safe set & setting first to see how strong they are. If you don't have the discipline to do that, blame yourself.

That said, I think abusing psychedelics for the colors and euphoria alone is a stain on the community that uses them and a potential issue for the abuser. I will for sure admit that I have taken LSD on occasions mostly in the hope for those but I was prepared every time for the other aspects, be they spiritual or psychologically difficult, physical, etc. You cannot isolate one of the effects, unless you can accept that I think it's abuse by definition.
Some psychedelics are much easier than acid though, which significantly limits the chances of ending up in a state that is impossible to deal with. The milder 2C's usually are more forgiving, but still in massive doses they can cause deliriums and blackout. And in the wrong situation they too can bite you in the ass. That should be a lesson for you, I just hope a minimal number of people has to learn it the hard way.
 
I've blacked out on psychedelics before, and went utterly insane. It was too much though, easily and simply put and 4 hits lsd/3.5g shrooms/70mg MDMA crystal. I attacked people, would talk very much out loud to myself how the world was ending (In my defense, I was watching the universe restart, over and over and over again) and basically alienated all of my friends who were there. I almost killed someone, a action I have no memory of. I could not recognize the people I was tripping with and was convinced everyone was a persona of humanity.

I am much more careful in taking psychedelics, and have had no problems since, and never had before. I had tripped about 200 times at that point and I'm nearing 300 now. Very scary business though, not being conscious of what you're doing while tripping.

I'd recommended lower doses, as well as sticking more to phenethylamines versus tryptamines, being very careful when combining any empathogen with any psychedelic, and always asking yourself a few basic questions that you have to be okay with the answers before tripping.

Who am I?
What am I doing?
Am I secure in my social and personal relationships?
Is my life situation "comfortable" for me?
Am I just getting high this time?

If all those check out, I find it impacts the trip greatly, and eliminates anxiety.
 
Did I mention an interest in t7? I had always been ok with leaving that one alone after reading the death reports, not that I'd ever dose myself that high. If any I'll probably be experimenting with B and D, I was a misnomer for me. Unsure if I'd classify it as positive or negative it was just sort of bland, very powerful stuff no doubt. I suppose with the Lucy I had just become sonaccustomed to the ease of the experience I had felt before that I was feeling ballsy with just two tabs. I've only ever had one "bad" trip, but it wasn't fully bad.... 4 tabs of some high grade, I felt totally isolated from the rest of the world, as if I would never experience meaningful contact with another human being again when Bob Marleys "three little birds" song came on and I was brought to tears by the good vibes and euphoria that was experienced. Since then I've always felt an incredible overpowering euphoria on acid, no matter what is going on the experience is never devoid of this brain candy sensation that absolutely nothing could be wrong with that present moment. Apparently I can become caught up in that perpetual smile mode and lose control of myself which is why I will always treat psychedelics with more respect after this previous dance with Lucy.

I want to thank you for the quality posts and advice and assure you all that I take my drug use with every but of seriousness that a scientist might in an experiment. The reason I am here is to make myself a more educated and responsible user and to not cross that line into the realm of abuse, abuse of myself or substances.
 
This one's pretty easy. You have a crush on this girl and its not reciprocated and you cant admit it to yourself. Don't do acid around her until you get over her.
 
I've blacked out on LSD once, and it was due (in my opinion) to a number of contributing factors, one of which being the fact that i had used DXM the day before and had also not slept well. I had entered into a blackout after initially dosing 2 sugar cubes that had been dropped liberally. The situation worsened when once under the influence of the initial break i then gobbled down another 8 cubes dosed with a similar amount, along with a few grams of marijuana and pretty much anything else that was close to hand.

I had a fair go at destroying my friends house, although apparently more in a curious than angry way and my friends never felt personally threatened, but were worried for my safety as I am a pretty large guy and my friends house is located near some high cliffs, and it is unlikely my friends would have been able to successfully restrain me. They are still two of my best friends.

Eventually (after attempting to call an ambulance) about 4 police cruisers turned up, I was restrained by five officers and tried to take the sirens off the top of the car (hah). Ended in hospitalisation (where they thought i was experiencing methamphetamine psychosis apparently). Wish i knew more about what i had been given (although from subsequent research i assume diazepam?) I came to the next morning with my parents sitting next to me and a doctor above me.

If you have ever seen somebody going through a difficult psychedelic experience, characterised by thought loops and limited responses, this was pretty much the same as that but with any residual safety switches flicked off.

I am an extremely peaceful person by nature and have subsequently dosed many times (probably inadvisably but oh well). For many months i did not remember any of the experience, until halfway through a trip it suddenly all flooded back to me and i can remember all of it in its' extremely bizarre detail to this day.

ANYWAY, sorry for the rant, but OP, after about another sixty trips or so over 2-3 years i have come to the conclusion that psychedelics just aren't for me. Of these sixty trips only 3 could be considered difficult, but they are of my most recent and i experienced acute anxiety attack symptoms. I believe that my break of 2 years ago is interrelated to these symptoms, and although i had an amazing time with psychedelics while it lasted, it has taken me a few recent painful trips to now realise that i need to stop probing at whatever makes my mind different to somebody who would never experience these symptoms.

I am just stressing caution is all i suppose, I have still had an overwhelmingly large majority of positive experiences but i now realise that it isn't worth the (potential or imagined, doesn't matter really as it's one in the same if you are panicking) risk to my mental health.

You may be completely different and you may disregard this post entirely. Blackouts are pretty common and there is a lot of literature about them all over the internet. Mine unfortunately made me a lot more curious than deterred and I feel that i have now sated that curiosity and am happy with the position i am leaving psychedelics in. However, to leave them at all it took some shitty experiences which i would not wish upon anyone.

Once again, extremely sorry for the rant, it could have been a whole lot more detailed and i intend to type the full thing sometime.

Just, be careful of your brain because it's the only one you've got.
 
I've blacked out on LSD twice; once during a period of extreme personal stress, wherein I ended up being arrested and charged with multiple felonies, including indecent exposure and assault of a police officer.

Second time, I consumed 5mg's which left m unconcious for about 20 hours, and another 10-15 still tripping madly. Fortunately enough, I was, for all intents and purposes, literally unconcious.

QuasiModo said:
I want to thank you for the quality posts and advice and assure you all that I take my drug use with every but of seriousness that a scientist might in an experiment.
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You know thats nonsense, yeah? ;) Not trying to be rude, but a scientific experiment is usually tightly controlled. What you did was the opposite.

Its clear that you regret your actions; you wouldn't be on Bluelight trying to find a way to not make the same mistake twice if you didn't regret- but its hard to really help you in this case. You need to be very careful in what context you take drugs in.

Personally, I'd stick with LSD- its something you are 'used to'; taking a whole bunch of other psychedelic chemicals that you haven't tried before adds more variables, which I don't think you can afford to encounter right now.

That said, I think your probably looking for 2C-B, 2C-I, 4-hO-DiPT, 2C-D or MDA/MDEA, if you are determined to try a different drug.

Take care :)
 
The second time I took mushrooms, I peed and took my pants off and kicked a cinder block, generally weird behavior. I spent two hours listing off various chemical formula, and went back and forth between swearing and yelling loudly at a friend, and then apologizing and telling him I loved him, among other things. I'm a pretty mellow person, and rarely prone to freaking out in any way. Sometimes, high doses of psychedelics cause freakouts. Two tabs can be enough. It usually isn't, and LSD done to me what that those mushrooms did. That was my second psychedelic experience, and nothing since like it has ever happened, even at doses many times that amount.

OP, I wish a lot of the people in this thread would chill out. Freakouts happen. Really, most of the 2c-x's other than E.
 
Excellent reads the past few posts. It never ceases to amaze me how variable the psychedelic experience can be. Different heads different reads, blather on my friends ;)
 
An update on this front.. I have discovered Cubes to be my social psychedelic of choice.. With the exception of being in a car. I kinda flipped out while basically having an OBE on a 2 hour drive peaking on shrooms. Maybe deep down I'm a little bit claustrophobic? lol..

But yeah low dose mushrooms > MDMA for social situations IME.
 
willow11 said:
Personally, I'd stick with LSD- its something you are 'used to'; taking a whole bunch of other psychedelic chemicals that you haven't tried before adds more variables, which I don't think you can afford to encounter right now.

That said, I think your probably looking for 2C-B, 2C-I, 4-hO-DiPT, 2C-D or MDA/MDEA, if you are determined to try a different drug.

Take care :)
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I've decided on a new personal protocol with new substances and that is I will explore the headspace alone in nature (dunes or forest) before taking them socially. All of my social doses will be low, low doses.. One tab, low mg 2c doses, a few caps of shrooms, ect. I am no longer interested in trying MDMA in a social settings or otherwise. The next psychedelic on my party plate is low dose vaped AMT. The reports of a calmed, serene headspace with minor visuals and relaxed stimulation sound like my exact cup-o-tea :)

Thank you for the advice though friend, I will most certainly be taking Cubies or Lucy socially before any more exotic substances.. I'd also really like to dose 5mgs of LSD someday lol, that sounds like pure chaos.
 
I'm pretty sure I'm going to be a social psychonaut in college. I detest drinking and smoking at the school I'm going to attend is heavily frowned upon and single infractions can lead to big issues.

At parties and the like I'll probably dose 2C-C, low amounts of 4-Aco-DMT, bk-MDMA or (depending on how much I like it) 5-Meo-MIPT.
 
The aggression on this thread is mind blowing, I mean we have all made stupid mistakes on psychedelics, and psychedelics can induce temporary psychosis, very possible. To everyone out there who is being very judgmental and negative all I have to say is this; wheres the love?

As for suggestions for friendly psychedelics try 2c-c, or 2c-b. Both are perfect for what you are looking for, 2c-b maybe for a night out on the town, and 2c-c for a night in with friends. I to much prefer lighter trips to the mindfuck of heavy doses of tryptamines (although I still occasionally venture into this territory) so I can feel your pain.
 
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