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methamphetamine unhealthy knowledge?

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Seems to be that Methamphetamine has "Amped" my brain into a very intellectual way of thinking. Not sure of a way to describe the way I think at the moment+ not on my objectives list as of right now Lol.

I'm sure others have discovered that every drug alters your thoughts somehow and in some way... but it seems Methamphetamine has changed my brain for the better?

I've smoked and always seem to come up with crazy hypothesis(plural) just about anything I think of. I believe I get an understanding about life that makes more sense to me.

Opinions? Experience?

Could their possibly be a HUGE spotlight on Methamphetamine and the advancement of the Human race?

Planet Nibiru and it's moon Wormwood? Fact or Fiction...
 
being in a big meth area, and knowing fuckloads of people into it, I would say, nah. Its 100% destruction. The way it makes you think you are getting some kind of advantage from it is part of the destruction.

This is a really stupid thread.
 
Yeah I would say get off that stuff, I saw some "theories" written into a notebook of a friend on meth and it was complete junk, didn't even make sense, and actually scared me to the point I don't talk to her anymore.
 
There has been studys on methamphetamines, many times and again, even currently. It changes the way you think, and makes you believe your everyday thoughts, like questions to yourself even are answered. Tweak gets crazy, cus it makes you that way.

Like a eukrainian egg
 
You sure your confidence boost hasn't just made you think your more intellectual? I think so :p
 
^^What rickolasnice said.

Stimulants stifle new ideas. They allow for the frenzied rehashing of ideas you've already had -- in novel combinations, at best, and in senseless repetition at worst.
 
I have definately had similar thoughts at various stages, solving problems etc, constructing devices, writing essays for uni. While some of my inventions/artwork/essays I still reckon are impressive, I also remember being excited by my 'invention' of what ended up just being a clipboard/notepad to keep track of petrol mileage while in the car (and it is a pretty shitty clipboard).

I used to feel like without amps my head was working at only 1/4 capacity, and amps would enable me use my entire brainpower effectively. I think the non-meth amps actually do, its an ADD thing. Methamps at low-moderate doses for short periods of time also do this, but as the doses/duration increase you go beyond focusing and without realising it and all the rays just get scattered. You can stay at the focus point with non-meth amps if you orally ingest your prescribed dose, but with meth you will inevitably pass this focus point if you continue to use it, the point at which everything becomes scattered depends on how quickly your dose/durations increase (the point seems to be fixed regardless of tolerance, so you can bypass the focus point before you even feel like you're getting anywhere if your tolerance is large).

is it possible you have ADD/ADHD? not trying to play doctor or anything, its just that what you said in your post just sounded like what I told my doctor which ended up with a psych giving me dex for ADD. I wish I had stuck with what i was prescribed and stopped meth since now my meth tolerance has increased my amp tolerance hugely such that I use up the dex script in a really short time, then need to cover the gap between script refills with meth coz I can't stand not being able to think properly (ie no meth/amps = can't think). but thing is even with meth I can;t think coz I am overshooting the focus point (but at least I feel as though I can think).
 
In a sense I agree with coming to a hypotheses on any problem or topic discussed. Meth makes you think think think and social as fuck til a certain stage, definitely lowers inhibition which brings you to build that secret door the a large book shelf was affixed to the front of made flush with the wall and turned into a secret door to the camper that had a hole dug just behind the shop and buried underground in a wood and sheet metal hut. Not that ideas on meth don't become a reality because they do but most often the crazy, paranoia driven ideas that revolve around being caught and avoiding being caught.
 
Same story here. Meth, dexies had me constantly coming up with "inventions" and fucking theories that were just garbage.
I had my own notebook that was full of this crap, makes me embarresed to think about now.

Meth makes you become obsessed with trivialities. You find "significance" in all kinds of things that are just ho hum run of the mill daily living type shit.
You think your mind is working at 110% but really it is just stuck in first gear and reving its tits off.
 
I know exactly what he's talking about but it seems he's not really battling a real addiction to meth either. I use to manufacture meth which I've done time for and I happen to know a lot about how it effects the brain specifically and other regions of the body. I'm also well aware of what it does to the brain over a long period of time, and like people have said it has more of a corrosive effect than anything. Meth technically devours brain tissue and causes long lasting effects that for some never go away.
I only used it for 3 years, at very high frequency and even 11 years later off it I still feel my brain has a sort of "meth personality" to it. That speedy always thinking/always trying to be creative feeling died down a lot over the years, although it still does exist a lot for the most part.

I will be honest with you in that respect I completely know what the OP means. I also feel like meth made me a bit more intellectual of a person. But it came with a price. I'm very sensitive to other peoples emotions now and am always thinking a step ahead in any conversation I'm into. Thats not always a good thing as it prevents you from living in the moment if you're always thinking about shit. I still have the association of superfast thinking and in someways it does seem to have actually made me smarter.

In other ways however intelligence can make a person crazy. Panic attacks, overthinking situations, anaylsis paralysis - which is basically always thinking/planning on doing things but never actually doing them. Its really hard for me to say because meth single handedly causes more damage and more problems in my life than any other drug I can think of. But many years later I do seem to have walked away from that addiction with a different type of brain. I also became much better with women too and I think meth actually makes you think more like a girl lol. Its a wild claim yes I know but for the most part I think meth wreaks havoc in most peoples lives and should not even be consider a drug in this world. It works more like a poison and in the long term will destroy brain tissue/blood vessels like no other drug I've seen, hence all the twitching/shaking that comes along with it. Fuck that. Can barely drink coffee 11 years later thanks to meth.

edit: Also for anyone who's genuinely curious about how meth changes the brain overtime I was fortunate enough to write journals every night the entire time I was on meth. Like I said this was like 10-11 years ago when I was just graduating highschool. And reading from one journal to another, as the weeks pass by, so you can clearly see me becoming more and more psychotic. Up untill the point where meth psychosis kicked in full blast and my journals start to read like a schizo was writing them. And then even after I got clean off the meth I documented my recovery and you can see clearly how intense and how long the side effects lasted. Even journals 3-4 years later I was still documenting how certain side effects weren't going away (twitching in the neck,etc) and I've always wanted to convert the journals to like an ebook or something for meth addicts to read.

I'm not a terrible writer either so some of its interesting to read while other shit you would just skip through. But when I go back now and read those journals its one of the most eye opening experiences to see how far out of reality meth took my brain and how hard I had to struggle just to get back to normal thought processes. It genuinely does just make you psycho imo. Its the last drug I would ever consider doing again I'd rather stick a barrel in my mouth and blow my head off.
 
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In my experience, it for the most part makes ideas that I'd otherwise have appear more profound. In retrospect, they always appear identical to something I could have easily come up with otherwise. Since the long-term intellectual gain appears minimal, I would avoid toying with a compound this specifically neurotoxic (particularly when d-amphetamine provides a ready, safer alternative).

ebola
 
Ah, amphetamines. I tend to think that most people would benefit from slowing their thinking or getting less caught up in it, rather than going into turbo-drive. Ideas and thoughts can be interesting or useful, but to live in the mind and be controlled by it can be risky business.

I think, therefore I am confused

@Bo: I would be curious to read your material if you ever put something together. Amphetamines and I were fairly close for a while so I'm interested in other people's experiences
 
Well I can acknowledge ice did do the same to me and I had made the same conclusions at first , after long usage I will tell you ice is not the magical crystal that makes you god. It is simply a strong stimulant , it doesn't make you smarter or makes you create ideas. Your brain was already smart you had all of it already , jus now you are more focused on your ideas and what to do and how to do it and you are also given the confidence to act on them . You lose all inhibition. But to go as far as to say ice is the advancement of the human race is far-fetched.9/10 people will be fucked cause people don't know how to use self control. They can't handle it. Ice made me stay up for 6 days I was amazed but I don't think a lot of people will make it out alive or half-normal. Ice is a forbidden fruit , once tasted everything else before tastes dull its a double edge sword. Srry if Im ranting but ya that's my opinion
 
Most meth heads I've met think they're right, but in reality there very wrong.
It's a wicked nasty drug.
 
I do believe that meth can let you expand and combine many thoughts that you have been thinking about and also have almost totally forgotten about. In order to take anything from these theories you must be able to re-write/explain them sober because I've found whenever I talk about anything as I am tweeked I'll try to cram as many meanings and messages into too small of an amount of words. When someone that isn't as up as you reads this they won't be able to get everything you put in because all the deep wisdom is packed so tight! The only way to get deep wisdom is to have it be communicated well enough and open and easy enough to fully comprehend it. Sober editing of thoughts and also living them and finding if they work right that way will help very much to get the most out of any stimulated thoughts. I think this must be why most people just have sex for the whole high cause they can't get people to believe their shit since those people don't wanna believe that crazy, fast, packed, information overload depth unless they are just as fucked, and if you have two people that are that fucked on meth well they probably won't do much talking.

The more destructive the drug the bigger the carrot it will dangle in front of you in order for you to keep the process going on, but I have found from my use that I really have learned all that it can offer me and it's a whole fucking lot but that's only because I resisted the sex orgy parties I could have engaged in and just spent the peak high, thinking, talking, and writing. I've shot it 5 times now and I must stop before I go any farther. I know where this road will take me but hey that's because I heard others yell their stories back at me as I sat patiently at the crossroads. Always know when to fold if you don't want to have the possibility of losing everything.

See this is pretty much sober writing, a little dxm from earlier, but if you look up an older post of mine that I wrote on meth you'll see that I packed those words full of too much shit to even get.
 
manmade drugs are always destructive, period. i do believe that natural herbs and plants (whatever they might be) can give better insight into ones mind if used correctly. but any drug can be abused really
 
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