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timhortonsman

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The ONLY reason I would decide not to take MDMA is because of the fact of waking up the next day a whole different person/some change..

..this is what my mind is thinking. If I take it, will I change so much that my long-term girlfriend would feel differently about me? Yes, I know we could both take it at the same time, too.

Just, what are anyone's thoughts on this? Is it so much of a change?

- Chris
 
I don't think it'd make you 'change' so much that you're g/f would feel differently about you, no.

It's more of a potential introspection that would occur. An awareness (or nothing at all).
 
I don't think MDMA changes you in that kind of way. It's something that can really open you up in a lot of ways and see things more clearly, but it won't change you in any way that your girlfriend would dislike or even notice really.

However, you do need to be careful with MDMA. Though it's not physically addicting (it doesn't cause withdrawals or anything like that) you can really get mentally addicted to the feeling. A lot of people will want to have that feeling all the time because it's so amazing, you just need to remember that if you have it all the time, it won't be as amazing anymore. A lot of people have "lost the magic" of MDMA because they used it too much, and no one wants that to happen to them.

So, to avoid bad things happening, only take it once a month minimum, though 3 months is what I would suggest. Also, buy a test kit so you know that it's really MDMA. Also, be safe and be sure to drink water and all that, but not too much, that can be bad too.

Anyways, back to the original question:
MDMA won't change you in a way that your girlfriend would notice, let alone be upset about. My suggestion would be to take it with her at home and just cuddle up and talk/do whatever comes natural to you.
 
It may change you, but not in the way you expect.

The first time you drop;
It is your self-anointing, and I envy you that first time. So relish it, savour it, languish it, treasure it, that sacred four hours. You have just swallowed wonder, ambrosia and mead, you have partaken of lustre and grace. Just make certain that before you swallow you know that the pill is authentic, and not some rip-off. Do that, and the rest is a piece of cake, a piece of cake that is like no other you have ever tasted. Think of the best day of your life, or recall the sweetest, purest, most special thing along the way - person, place, moment, experience, accomplishment. Now multiply that tenfold. That does not begin to describe how impossibly delicious E is.

I popped my first bean when I was just 15, in fact 15 by only a few hours.
I'll never forget that night.
Green Euro's, they were stunning, and I ended up doing 2 and a half and losing my virginity to a gorgeous girl I'd loved for years.

It opened my eyes to the incredible fortuity of simply existing, and the striking beauty of the nature of the universe.

I realised then in those moments of clarity and euphoria how much I had taken everything for granted with the onset of adolescence,
and how gloriously complex and wonderful the nature of life is that infintely surrounds us.

That positive and refreshing view of the world stuck with me, it changed my life.
Suddenly I wanted to read, to learn about everything, to welcome all experience with curiosity,
and to understand in depth the nature of the human mind.

I grew up.
In one night, over one weekend.

I found the other kids at school underdeveloped, immature and infantile.

I became fascinated in human behaviour and sociology/anthropology.

I realised the futility of violence, war and aggression, the manipulative nature of the media,
and the false hopes and happiness that is the material capitalist system of consumerism.
How we are blinkered and fed propaganda, deluded into believing in the illusion of "freedom",
kept dumb by the disenfranchised masses, media-fed and led to believe that your clothes or shoes or
car "defines" you as an individual and will give you lasting happiness and status.

When it's all just one big distraction.

One big disguise to prevent us from feeling this good. Preventing us from coming together away from
the "taxable" and "profitable" controlled "fun" that is your average inner city trendy bar.

How dangerous would it be for the corporate machine if we all began listening to music that was truly
underground and against the popular music industry, consuming substances on the blackmarket at no
profit to the man, attending free rave parties away from revenue generating nightclubs, unpredictable
and unmonitored individuals realising that they have found something better, that they don't need the
9 to 5 gold-plated daily grind and the matching tea-set, they have tasted freedom, they group and mass
together unpoliced and unprovoked with dangerous anti-establishmental theologies, a contempt for the
pursuit of meaningless monetary wealth, a sudden understanding of the nature of it all, and therefore
a threat to national security?

I continued to pop pills almost every weekend or at least every other weekend until I was 18/19 years
old.

I pursued the dance music scene, the rave industry, the early 1990s acid techno free-party collective,
travelling around Europe in old buses and trucks, carting soundsytems, living off the grid, rent-free,
learning to DJ, doing gigs, meeting other like-minded individuals with fascinating stories to share,
and dancing dancing dancing the days away free, poor, and happy.

Eventually I chilled out on the beans long enough to gain some qualifications of use in the music
industry.

I built skills in sound engineering, gained experience of promotion and organisation, and passed with
distinction as a percussion teacher.

I eventually got bookings, released tracks, and set up my own label.

I booked international artists and they booked me back.


That all began decades ago.
I'm still living the dream.
Sure I'm married now,
15-odd years on from that first pill,
but I'm still Partying, producing, and performing.
In pursuit of lasting fulfillment and happiness through
experience-knowledge-wisdom and love,
freedom-friendship-achievement-self-improvement and dance,
and the occasional drug induced euphoria.


Still pursuing the ever-evolving dance music scene,
Still relatively poor in terms of financial wealth,
But in terms of experience and achievement,
I'm the richest motherfucker I know.

I'll never forget my 15th birthday.
That was the first day of the rest of my life......
 
^ that's awesome.
I'll have to agree: it changed me in ways I wasn't expecting. I became a lot more carefree and adventurous, more social, and a lot less self-conscious. It just made me put things into a different light I guess, which really helped me out in the end
 
I don't think it'd make you 'change' so much that you're g/f would feel differently about you, no.

It's more of a potential introspection that would occur. An awareness (or nothing at all).

ehh you'd be surprised. my husbands face completely changes the day after MDMA. he looks like a vegetable zombie and acts like one. it definitely made me feel different enough to stop doing it

just don't eat more than 250mg lol you'll be fine we were splitting 3gs a night. the next day you'll probably be happy as shit, it's got the same enabling as LSD in a way as it resets your receptors, depletes your serotonin so you feel like you would after you just tripped but you wake up and go DAMN, I feel different about life
 
You aren't that different. I think it just makes you more open and accepting. If your gf is a critical person or mean or makes fun of people a lot then you may not like her much after that. That's really what changed me. I get more irritated now when people are mean to others. It doesn't affect everyone that exact same way though.

I have friends who don't like my change which is just going out more and being more accepting and stuff like that. And they don't like that I use in general and tell me it'll kill me and shit like that. But that's really the only reason that we don't hang out as much anymore.

Like DnA said - it can make you more carefree, adventurous, social, and less self conscious. Personally it has changed me so that I feel more confident (both on and off the drug).

And molly was saying that people change after the drug but that's just the comedown. If you don't do a lot and you're healthy people, you should be fine. The first time, I had 800 mg over the course of the night (4 x 200 mg). Not what a person should have. If you're dropping that much, expect a comedown where you'll be tired and unmotivated and feel not so great the next day! If you're trying it, just do one pill. No more than two for sure. Any more than that and you'll be wayy too out of it and feeling bad the next day.

If you take it together then it will help the bond between the two of you. Believe me. My boyfriend and I had always been great together but, after doing m together, it just seemed like we were so much better together. It's an interesting feeling (but definitely good!). Sooo trying it together (low doses though - since you are both inexperienced) would be very perfect!
 
Depends on the person...If you are happy about your life you dont have much problems, any mental ilnesses...your are having healthy life style, you are not angry. I think 1 MDMA roll will not affect you then. i think you should give it a try.. you wount regred
 
I've made many lasting changes from MDMA that have all been positive. Becoming more open, loving, etc.

I can't imagine how it would cause some sort of change that you regret, unless it is change due to extremely heavy use in somebody that does not tolerate MDMA very well.

It can be very healing depending on how it is used.
 
If you take it together then it will help the bond between the two of you. Believe me.
This. IMO there's nothing better than rolling with someone you love.

If there are any issues in your relationship that you have a hard time talking about, the open, empathetic, forgiving, uninhibited state that this drug brings is perfect for talking them through. And when you're sober, you can call on that memory to remind yourself how good it feels to communicate like that.
 
It's still a relatively chill drug. It will make you feel awesome and make you love life, but it won't fundamentally change you.

In general, I find that drugs alone rarely contribute to positive changes in people. Usually drugs are just a key to a door that you will enter at some point in your life (chemical or no chemicals).
 
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