It is for me, fwiw. I never used MDPV in large enough amounts, or frequently enough, to go into dopamine psychosis until recently -- when I bought it four or five or six binges in a row, instead of binging once or twice a year.
MDPV is essentially pyrovalerone, a schedule V controlled substance marketed in the past for weight loss, with a minor chemical tweak (methylenedioxy) that appears to have had little or no effect on the way it works. It's no more "dangerously capable of producing psychosis, including in first time users" than Ritalin is, which they serve to children like candy.
Why do you attribute this to MDPV? What is it about MDPV specifically that precipitated this? Why are you blaming the drug, when cocaine, or Ritalin, or meth, or meph, or methylone, or MDMA, or even a day with way, way too much caffeine could conceivably have done the same thing?
Believe me, I'm not kidding myself. Rather, I'm taking responsibility for myself. I abuse the hell out of MDPV, which is why I encountered psychosis the last time -- it was not the fault of the MDPV.
As what you said is relevant to the debate (which is interesting/entertaining, from here) -- could you describe the symptoms of the psychosis, and how much PV you used that brought it on?
I'll take responsibility for that too... MDPV's fiending potential is what keeps me going on a binge, but it isn't what has me going through the massively complex actions of re-purchasing it. I re-purchased it because I wanted to buy some and was willing to accept the consequences, not because MDPV made me do it.
At what point in the binge did the psychosis come on? To me, "first time PV use" means the first dose of it you ever take. Obviously, any stimulant you use for 2 weeks straight is going to make you psychotic... you could hardly even know if it was sleep deprivation or the stim doing it.
Just into self-honesty, that's all... nothing looks nastier from the normal POV sometimes, but nothing ends up working better in the end, even when it involves stuff like heavy over-use, addiction, fucking up and everything else.I see what you're saying - once you've exhausted your supply then you need to go through the process of restocking while not under the influence of MDPV. Good point.
Don't ever join a religious cult, eh Dedbeet? You'd be the Zealot of Zealots, that's for sure.
Well, look -- how many times have you dosed PV in the past 2 weeks? You aren't a first time MDPV user, you've used it as many times as you've dosed it... that's how they determine first time drug use, not by "first binge" 8).
If you went crazy the first time you put PV into your body, two weeks ago, you qualify. Otherwise, there's still no proof that MDPV can make a first-time user crazy. A first time user is someone who takes a drug for the first time and immediately has a symptom. You can binge on *anything* for the first time and it can hurt you. Try an H2O (water) binge, drinking a glass every 15 seconds for a week and see if you survive.
Well, I'd say this is a good sign not to buy MDPV again, eh? Consider yourself lucky, actually to get an early warning before it really takes hold... if you keep binging the problems are obviously gonna pile up to the far reaches of the galaxy.
Huh? It took me 10 seconds to learn how to vape... put PV on foil, hold straw over it, hold lighter underneath
