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Heroin Making my own snortable heroin**not asking how i just need a lil help***

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I want to start off by saying I am in no way shape or form...trying to get rid of my stuff. But I have a an issue, I have a couple of dealers that I frequent. One guy is from an area where nothing but black tar is availible and the other guy usually has some very good white powder heroin. My issue is this..the guy that sells the good powder is not always there when i need the crap, and the other guy that sells the tar needs a days notice to bring me the stuff. I enjoy the powder form because its easier to ingest than the tar. Which I drop into a visine bottle with water and snort; which can be a hassle due to the fact that I have to only put in a days worth so i dont let a whole batch turn into morphine. So I have decided to make my own powder from the tar. I have gathered bits and peices of information on doing this and filled in the blanks, and my first attempt at it came out with so-so results. I got a dime of tar, threw in some baby formula and smashed and bashed the shit out of it, it came out looking nice. But it lacked the heroin taste..it tasted like baby forumla and I had to do a lot of powder to get high. Can anyone tell me what im doing wrong here? What are the proper ratios of cut to tar...and what can i use for cut other than baby formula.. again this is not for profit, so volume really does not matter, i just want something that will go down smooth and not clump up into soft squishy clay balls.. thanks in advance
 
Well, maybe cut was the wrong word.. i just want to know how i can get the tar into a powder form but also make it to where doing to much is less likley to happen.. and as far as an acid base eextraction, I will search the forums.. unless you wanna fill me in here :)
 
I think that placing some tar into a bottle and snorting it is going to be by far the easiest solution here. It's not like all the heroin instantly deacetylates either.

If you want to cut it and end up with a brown powder I believe lactose is commonly used. Mix the bth and lactose in solution (dunno a good ratio) and heat to dissolve it if needed before recrystallizing.
 
Dissolve it in water and stuff it where the sun don't shine.

Bear in mind that plugging has significantly more efficient absorption than snorting, and the dose will be smaller.
 
Yeah, if you can't do an acid/base then just dissolve it in saline and snort/plug it. It'll be good for a few weeks if you keep it in a cool dark place.
 
sekio said:
Yeah, if you can't do an acid/base then just dissolve it in saline and snort/plug it. It'll be good for a few weeks if you keep it in a cool dark place.
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Not entirely true.. Heroin/water mixture will eventually de-acetylate back into morphine.
 
Yes, eventually. But decomposition rates are slow enough that you can store it in solution for a week or so without much loss. I've seen it cited here by a mod somewhere...

Most of the hydrolysis would be to 6-mam anyway I think.

Tar heroin is usually hygroscopic (draws air from the environment) BTW.
 
Yes I know the exact rates of decomposition are not entirely known.. It isn't going to happen after a couple hours. I am not disagreeing with you at all, just personally I wouldn't advise someone to mix up a week's worth of heroin/water solution and expect it to be just as potent after 7 days.
 
Look, unless you have a trained chemist do this for you chances are that you're going to just end up wasting what dope you do have. Even if you somehow tinker around enough to turn tar into powder, it's going to be a lot weaker, and to be honest, it's pointless. Either snort the liquid if you reeallly feel the need to snort it that is...or just shoot or smoke it like everybody else.
 
Wiki for Hygroscopy said:
The similar-sounding but unrelated word hydroscopic is sometimes used in error for hygroscopic. A hydroscope is an optical device used for making observations deep under water.
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Close, no cigar.
 
Cut the tar with baby laxative. I once knew a dealer in Hartford who did that with tar he got from the Southwest. Worked pretty well actually, and bulks it up pretty big time (i.e. not gonna prevent an overdose by any means, but make doing so just that much more disgusting). I believe he dried the tar out into something approaching a powder in the oven, and then added just enough laxative to get rid of that little bit of latex or whatever that wouldn't burn off in the oven. I've heard of others just using a microwave to shock the tar, or a toaster oven, pulverizing it and then just snorting that. Never seen or tried that though. I would highly recommend the baby laxative over formula though (the formula has a lot of crap in it that will effect consistency and texture, where as the laxative doesn't seem to)
 
Put the tar in a small box, like the size of a tin of skoll, and add a clean penny or two and a small amount of lactose powder. Apparently the copper from the pennies helps break down the tar though i have no reason to offer for why this is other than seeing multiple people claim it works. Shake the box around, then look and add more powder if needed. But only add tiny amounts as needed, otherwise you will end up having to snort a ton of powder again..
 
Sounds to me like your all wasting perfectly good dope trying to play chemist....How about you just smoke or shoot tar like it's made for...or go out to the east coast and snort smack tell your hearts content? This thread is moronic. Only thing anyone is accomplishing on this thread is learning how to ruin tar and make an impure shit mess. But good luck anyway I suppose.
 
mr.scagnattie said:
Sounds to me like your all wasting perfectly good dope trying to play chemist....How about you just smoke or shoot tar like it's made for...or go out to the east coast and snort smack tell your hearts content? This thread is moronic. Only thing anyone is accomplishing on this thread is learning how to ruin tar and make an impure shit mess. But good luck anyway I suppose.
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Thats really bad advice, considering the OP has no intentions of IVing or smoking, so in turn no real "rush" like some of us have come to love.. and the simple way to cut tar is to use a powder that ABSORBS moisture, then cut it up, and add more if necessary, or less next time.. you get the point.. i forget which actually absorb moisture but im sure you could figure this out.
 
pirates_ said:
. . . the guy that sells the good powder is not always there when i need the crap, and the other guy that sells the tar needs a days notice to bring me the stuff. I enjoy the powder form because its easier to ingest than the tar. Which I drop into a visine bottle with water and snort; which can be a hassle due to the fact that I have to only put in a days worth so i dont let a whole batch turn into morphine. . . .
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I'm a little confused at what you are trying to do.

You prefer the powder because it's easier to snort, right?

You don't like the tar because with the tar you have to dissolve it in water and then put it in the visine bottle in order to snort?

So you want to put tar into a powder form so you can snort it from the powder form instead of having the extra step of dissolving the tar in water?

I'm just not sure what your "which" is referring to. Based on the structures of the sentences, which refers to the powder and your dissolving the powder in the visine bottle. But your frustration belies that so I'm assuming you mean dissolve the tar into the water and putting it into the visine bottle.

Sorry if I sound like I'm being nitpicky about grammar, but I'm trying to understand what you're getting at before I chime in with advice :)
 
I buy an ounce of tar(28g) and a small bottle of lactose 3.5g andblend it with a small magic bullet. The yield is a little higjer and it isnt cut.a.whole lot. Freshly blended it is a fine brown powder which is easily insufflated. The burn is ammaazzzingg. It is stored in a plastic bag, which knowingly is a terrible idea. It begins to moisten and stick together. This form is either ivd or smoked. To dry up must chop with razor and alternately heated with a lighter.
 
mr.scagnattie said:
Sounds to me like your all wasting perfectly good dope trying to play chemist.
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+1. While the process isn't (overly) difficult, nor the chemicals difficult to obtain (although you do need to know where/what you're looking for), unless you really know what you're doing you will be wasting your dope. :\
 
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