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Bad Trip?

RiverRat

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The only reason that i'm scared of LSD is that people tell that if you have a "Bad Trip" that it can still effect you after your sober and the rest of your life, that dosen't sound all true but a scarry trip isn't my idea of fun.

I would just like my facts straight before telling other people the same thing.
Thanks:)
 
a bad trip could change your life, just make sure you don't have a bad one
 
It's pretty rare to have a bad trip that will affect your life. It's about as likely as ending up in some shit job that drives you to a pit of despair from which the only way out is suicide.

In fact you're far more likely to get a shit job than have a bad acid trip.

And a good acid trip can make life worth living.
 
If you go into a war zone it can seriously fuck you up. It can even effect you long after you've left (ptsd etc.). Psychedelics can traumatize you in a similar fashion. That being said, it's not terribly common. Especially if you aren't abusing them.

Respect them, know your limits. If you don't do anything too stupid with them it's not something you should be that worried about. However, you should know that it is a possibility. There are no casual experiments. Every time you dose you are taking a risk. Generally it is extremely small, but it is there.

To give you an analogy, what your friends are saying is along the lines of someone claiming that you shouldn't go on rollercoasters. cuz it could totally come off the tracks and kill/cripple you for the rest of your life dude D:
 
After come down, any experience will affect you and the way you live. ;) Although probably not for the whole life.

Bad trips are very rare. What people call "bad trips" are, in fact, "difficult trips" in most cases. What's the difference? Actually, it is all about terminology. Bad trip = total disaster disaster, absolutely worthless experience. Difficult trip = unpleasant, but profound experience. You face problems, you feel negative emotions, but after come down you will have a good chance to change something in you and your life for the better.

And, unless you have predisposition to mental disorders and emotionally stable, you'll probably be fine after any trip, good or bad.
 
trust me, only the really good ones change your life, and they are not that usual
 
Go into it with a positive attitude, know that its a chemical and the effects WILL end, and you'll be fine.
 
A bad trip may be traumatic, but that doesn't mean it will affect you for your whole life. There are other things in life which can traumatize you a lot worse than a bad tirp.
 
hebb22 said:
a bad trip could change your life, just make sure you don't have a bad one
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Troll or you really believe that? A bad trip is not the end of the world. Giving it power like you do is probably an effective way to go to get into the "I'm crazy and will be scared for life" delusion during an intense trip.
Bad trips are best avoided, but it may also be possible to profit from the bad trip experience.
 
max_ said:
trust me, only the really good ones change your life, and they are not that usual
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I don't agree with this, really. Every experience we have changes us, not always in the dramatic way you probably mean, but emerging from a trip the same person you went in, for me, has always been very rare. There is always a subtle difference.

I should add that I have never had what people call a "bad trip". I have experienced fear, anxiety, paranoia and true, bowel knotting terror, but these experiences, (only a few) have been illuminating and rewarding. I emerged feeling like I had endured something galvanising, and I almost always learned something. I think the darker trips can be the most rewarding. This is view I have encountered often on this forum.
 
if you find your mind wandering into a bad trip, try and work out of it.. obviously if you have done a lot of acid this will be tough.. but on 1-2 it should be easy.. maybe 3 hits..
 
Thanks, that lets me know that the risk is there but not as big i used to think it was, i used to think the chances were 50/50. 50% bad and 50% good
 
It's my belief that if you go in with a mindset that nothing bad will happen, the chance of anything bad happening is, like, .00000000001%. Psychedelics can take you to crazy places, but how you feel about where you're going is somewhat within your control.
 
I had a very difficult trip once. It sucked. Hard.
BUT, after it ended, I took a nap for a few hours and woke up like nothing ever happened. proceeded to a nice dinner with close friends that night.

I don't see it as a random flip of a coin. Trips are generally good by default unless there is something to cause worry. In my case, (during a 2C-E trip), the intensity sorta caught me off guard and made me anxious. I had never had any experience with anxiety or panic before, so it got kinda scary because I didn't know that what I was having was a panic attack. Although, that no longer seems to be an issue now that I know what's going on.
 
If you go into a war zone it can seriously fuck you up. It can even effect you long after you've left (ptsd etc.). Psychedelics can traumatize you in a similar fashion.

Come off it man, that's a slight exaggeration. A bad trip is sitting on your settee for half an hour till you feel comfortable again. It's not exactly getting your leg blown off and screaming in pain for 3 days straight is it.
 
Bad trips are very rare. What people call "bad trips" are, in fact, "difficult trips" in most cases. What's the difference? Actually, it is all about terminology. Bad trip = total disaster disaster, absolutely worthless experience. Difficult trip = unpleasant, but profound experience. You face problems, you feel negative emotions, but after come down you will have a good chance to change something in you and your life for the better.
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Quite true. Last summer I had a very difficult experience with shrooms. At the time, it was extremely scary & disorienting. But as soon as the next morning, I realized that the issues were because of me, not the shrooms, and learned a lot about myself. I was able to work out some blockages and emerge as a better, stronger person. Yes, I suppose in a way that this experience will effect the rest of my life, but so do many other experiences.
 
After reading this and similar threads, it's clear that the vast majority of psychedelic users have never experienced a "bad trip". If you believe that a bad trip is sitting on your sofa for an hour having a panic attack, you are terribly mistaken. The bad trip is, as allium described:

allium said:
Bad trips are very rare. What people call "bad trips" are, in fact, "difficult trips" in most cases. What's the difference? Actually, it is all about terminology. Bad trip = total disaster disaster, absolutely worthless experience. Difficult trip = unpleasant, but profound experience. You face problems, you feel negative emotions, but after come down you will have a good chance to change something in you and your life for the better.
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A bad trip is a complete and utter train-wreck with potentially dangerous consequences. The bad trip is one that will traumatize, until a further resolution is sought.

After tripping for many years, I thought I knew what a bad trip was; my cumulative arrogance was served back to me in spades.

That said, I would say to the OP don't go in to a trip worrying about having a "bad trip". My train-wreck disaster trip was caused in part by going in to the trip believing that I deserved, and was due, a bad trip.
 
A bad trip is a complete and utter train-wreck with potentially dangerous consequences. The bad trip is one that will traumatize, until a further resolution is sought.

But this only applies to a small percentage of people who don't know themselves, are emotionally immature or who have deep-seated mental problems.

Psychedelics amplify aspects of your personality. That's all. They don't turn you into another human being. If you know yourself then psychedelics can't frighten you - how can you be frightened by yourself?

Saying "You never know what will happen on a trip" has about as much weight to it as saying "You might wake up tomorrow and knife your entire family before running down the street naked singing Jerusalem". Sure - I suppose there's a one in several billion chance you might. But it's almost certain you won't.
 
I agree with you, it's not something that simply happens by chance like a game of Russian Roulette, just because you were unlucky. I'm not trying to scare anyone away either; on the contrary, I encourage people to use psychedelic drugs because they bring the potential for unfathomable benefits.

I'm not attempting to tarnish their reputation, either - there's enough of that from government bullshit. I'm pointing out that - for the reasons you've already given - disasters do, if rarely, happen. A good example of this would be the recent 2C-E case; a one of it's kind of course, but the circumstances were in place to set that tragedy in motion.

Ismene said:
But this only applies to a small percentage of people who don't know themselves, are emotionally immature or who have deep-seated mental problems.
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I suppose you are correct, and I am emotionally immature etc., I've always thought that the entire human race is this way though. I think of myself as a baby in terms of the entire cosmos.

I still love tripping though <3 More than ever.
 
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