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1st time rolling. Prone to panic attacks. Should I?

BCRich said:
also, all my friends keep telling me that mdma is always based with either speed or heroin. but everyone on the internet says its just an emulsion of mdma and other mixed ingredients which could be anything

but yet molly is harder to find than based stuff? or at least thats how it is here, which I dont understand.

Ive looked on pill report and a vast majority of pills are just mdma with any combination of amphetamines, ketamine, caffeine, sometimes meth, and some other weird shit.

also why are alot of pills in a compressed form while most molly are in a capsule?
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Please don't listen to anyone who claims heroin is a component of ecstasy pills- there has never been a pill that has tested positive for heroin as far as I know. The directory (in my signature) is an extremely useful source of accurate information. MDMA is a drug with a ton of rumors attached to it, and there's rarely any truth to them.
 
For the inexperienced the first half hour of the E experience may be a little scary. You don't know what's normal, your heart may be hammering, you could feel shivery, or nauseous.
You need to be with somebody you trust and who has experience of E, who can hold your hand and reassure you.
Once you are up the mdma will take over and you will feel okay and relaxed. The effect is not at all like cannabis. Your mind will feel clear and you can understand things and feel empathy for people in a way you usually do not. You will want to bond with people and perhaps dance around.
If you are getting panic attacks with cannabis I recommend you stop using it for a while.
 
I have a friend who has MAD panic attacks, depression, etc. She was able to roll without any major issues. Granted, it was one clean pill in a fairly controlled environment, but if you're not crazy fucked in the head like she is(and I say that with love), then I think you'll be ok.

Definitely don't recommend rolling twice in a row though. People who's serotonin levels are perfectly normal on any given day tend to regret dosing two days back to back, and if you're prone to panic attacks, there's a decent chance something's a little off with yours.

Test your pills if you can and remember the importance of set and setting. They can make or break ANY experience. Be safe, roll balls.
 
thanks urrbody

exactly what I wanted to hear. Now I just cant wait for Nocturnalfest.
 
Also, although it's amazing and fun, I personally wouldn't suggest rolling at a festival for your first roll. Especially if you're prone to panic attacks. It's just not the best idea to do a drug in that kind of environment if you don't know how the drug effects you personally. MDMA effects some people in bad and/or weird ways and you honestly wont know how it effects YOU until YOU try it. It could make your festival experience amazing, but it could also ruin it. And even if ecstasy ends up being fun for you, some people freak out in large crowds or unfamiliar places. My suggestion would be to try it before the festival if there's time for recovery, and if you can't but still want to do it at the festival, make sure you have good friends with you who are willing to go back to your tent, or possibly even leave the festival with you if something bad happens. It's not likely you'll have a bad reaction to MDMA, and I'm not trying to scare you, but it's best to be informed of the possibility. I do hope you have an amazing time with MDMA and at the festival!
 
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Ok, so I didnt mean to bump this again but I feel like I just need to vent on what happened to me last night.

So I tried cocaine for the first time last night, worst fucking experience of my life. Like I was all for trying it once just t say ive done it and never again, but Im glad I tripped so negatively because I feel like I will never have the urge to do it again.

If anyone cares Ill start by telling the story. So a friend of mine whose a pretty seasoned coke user got me to try it. We went and bought a gram of apparently some good quality shit and we split it. OMFG i know I did too much


I didnt even allow myself to comedown and took line after line. Found out doing half a gram of high quality smack your first time is a terrible thing to do. Oh my god... I had a 3 hour anxiety attack where I paced from my bedroom to my kitchen non-stop. And I mean non-stop.

My anxiety was fucking off the charts. I was scared that I was going to die for like 3-4 hours. worst shit ever. felt good as fuk for about 2 and a half hours at first though. just deffinitely not worth it.


really irrelevant maybe but i really need some insight into this because its making me realize that the drug game just isnt for me and I feel like I just need to put off rolling for a while if not for good.
 
I never got panic attacks until I started rolling a LOT. I had to stop for a long time, my anxiety was debilitating. I know the unbalanced chemicals in my brain from the E is what caused the anxiety. Before the major onset of the panic attacks I rolled a couple times and the experience was awful. I was having anxiety attacks while I was rolling and could not enjoy it at all. I was in a worry-stricken state of mind the entire time. Horrible.

This does not mean this will happen to you, of course, but from my experience with anxiety and panic attacks I am not too sure how well you will do with it. You said your worries about anxiety cause an anxiety attack. From listening to you now it seems like you may already have anxieties about it; those worries may not be good for you lol.

I have gotten panic attacks from weed before too. Rolling is not like a weed high, it can be very enjoyable as long as you are in a comfortable environment. You said it's a festival. Do you ever get panic attacks in large groups of people?
 
I just read your last post after I posted, but I really think you should avoid drugs for a while. You need to get your mind right before you start experimenting. Uppers in general will only make your anxiety so much worse; thru the fucking charts.
 
no i mean I think I am less paranoid when people are around than when im just alone.

idk i feel like im anxious cus im lonely and i need to socialize or something idk


when i got coked up it was just me and my buddy in my house

i beleive it was mostly the physical symptoms though that set me over.
my heart was racing so fast i thought i was going to have a heart attack and my frickin hands were buzzing like mad and i couldnt sit still.

probly just a strong chemical reaction to the cocaine i assume im not sure.

I say this considering that alot of anxiety attacks are related to adrenaline release by the body, not neccessarilly always a controllable mental situation (but this is also a little bit of an assumption)
 
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Samthe_Recordman said:
Mdma decreases anxiety On the other hand if you got piped thats a different story.
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If you're prone to panic attacks, it does not. ESPECIALLY if you're new mdma, a strong peak can be overpowering and make you freak out and panic. But yes, as long as you're not rolling too hard that is true. And the come up is almost always rough and scary for people prone to anxiety.
 
BCRich said:
So I smoke alot of weed but ive been gettin really burned out of it and always have mild panic attacks when I come down. Ive only had one that was really bad and It was cus I smoked like an entire gram of trainwreck in a blunt at once.

I seem to have some anxiety from all of this and Im going to be going to a huge festival in about 2 months where Im gonna roll for the first time.

Im really afraid that I might have an anxiety reaction and it sucks because I also know that fear of an anxiety attack is what triggers them alot of times. I think I will most likely be fine as I am good with coping with it usually but i dont know for sure. Im trying really hard to get myself in a good mindset.

Is an extasy high anything like a weed high? Curious because I am led to beleive that they are similar just from my research (serotonin related) but Im obviously not an expert and am just speculating.

If its different I think I will be fine but I dont want my brain to have a huge panic episode if I do it.

any input is appreciated.

edit: im taking precautions. Im taking 5-htp for about a week before and getting all my vitamins etc.

Also, should I just quit smoking weed? It seems like no matter what im just gonna keep getting paranoid from it. its not even fun anymore.
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ok i will try to help you a bit here.. lol

my first time was at a festival a 2 day one (i rolled 1 day the 2nd day sat. , just chilled on friday and got a good hang of the intensity of the festival ) and bro was i fuckedddd outa my mind lol . you have to make sure your pills are clean #1 rule !
fuck! i dont know how i got outta there alive! now that i am an experienced roller and look back at it it was crazzyyy i was in complete euphoria i felt like a glowing floating bubble , there are so many things blowing you up at the same time , the loud music , the lights lasers , the thousands of ppl , i felt so good ! it was so amazing i did not have time to think but just act . i will never forget this- i dropped my glow stick and bent down to pick it up and on the way back up a guy burned me in the ear with his cigarette , but it felt so ....good... i just froze in awwe. !

it will be amazing you just cant get worked up over it , and you have to enjoy it . if you think your going to have a panic attack ... well then you will !

but if you just take it and forget it, dont think about it . then it will hit you faster and you'll be in ecstasy before you even notice you wont even come up! the moment you see or feel something that is going to blow you up like a song you like or ime a chilly breeze you will just start your ecstasy journey

its going to be intense but your going to feel amazing, accept it and roll wit it :)<3

if your gonna do it fucking do it , dont pussy out half way ..

btw i was 17 a girl and hadn't even tried weed yet. it was my first drug :)
 
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stay with a friend on the come up, then smoke a little bit on the comedown and you'll be straight
 
Personally i would get some sort of phychological therapy 4 your underlying anxiety. Speaking from personal experience i foolishly declined help 4 my anxiety when it first got a grip off me and its caused so much greif 4 me. So learn from my mistakes and get your underlying anxiety provoking thoughts adressed and learn the skills to control it conciously or it will only get worse buddie also lay off the weed my friend panic attacks genaralized anxiety conditions dont gel to well with cannabis good luck buddie
 
IME even though I'm prone to panic attacks, the intensity of rolling combined with the blazing euphoria has never once made me feel like I was going to panic. My only concern would be the comedown. The physical symptoms of the comedown have made me fairly edgy at times. I would have a benzo on hand for the comedown if your nerves are bad and you can't calm yourself down easily.
 
well I rolled last night.

took one 007 red and can honestly say my experience was totally neutral if not more bad than good. I was pretty nervous the whole time, but not OVERly nervous. Like many of you told me not to do, I was anxious about it. Its just something I could not control. for the first 3-4 hours I was nervous basically. but once I layed down in bed I felt really relaxed, though still a bit nervous. I was really calming myself down mentally but I still cant say it was an awesome experience.

I also think that I might not have had enough. I wasnt feeling a crazy euphoria or anything, I was listening to some awesome trance music and everything, feeling things, just chillin with a few friends but it just wasnt fun. until... I fell asleep, and Im pretty sure I had some awesome dreams. and I felt good waking up this morning.

My head feels kind of heavy and like there is pressure inside.

I just wish I would psychologically let myself have fun but it just wasnt something I could do. though I am glad I tried it before going to the festival.

I think now that I know what to expect, next time will be great.

also im not sure but my friends were saying they felt a little wierd and from the start I suspected there was something different about the pills. perhaps piperizine but who knows.

even they said their experience wasnt great and they have rolled before many times. idk ive looked up the pill and it says its just mdma but who knows
 
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