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putting weed in oven increase potency?

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first of all, bake your pot on a sheet of tin foil at 250-260deg until when you pinch a nug it breaks apart into dust (usualy 10-15 mins for somewhat fresh stuff)

this is the process of converting 80-90% of whatever inactive alkaloids are left into thc and thcv
sometimes it can double or even triple the potency of your bud if you try smoking it after this process... it will bake out most of the smell and flavor though, so if your picky about that and dont care more for the medical sedation, then maybe its not for you. i can make an ounce last much longer this way though.
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What happens is, a lot of the THC in marijuana is initially in the form of THC-COOH, a carboxylic acid. When heat is applied, a decarboxylation reaction occurs, liberating the carboxyl group as carbon dioxide, with the extra hydrogen atom coming in to bond to the now positively charged carbon atom that was left behind.

Here's my best guess at the actual mechanism:
In the first step, the heat applied excites the molecule and causes the carbon-carbon bond between the benzene ring and the carboxyl group to break and reform on the oxygen molecule in the hydroxyl part of the carboxyl group. This causes the electrons from the O-H bond to move to the hydrogen. There is now a negatively charged hydrogen ion with a lone pair and a carbon dioxide molecule, along with a THC molecule with a positive charge on the member of the benzene ring that the carboxyl group left from.
Once this happens, the hydrogen ion moves in to bond with the carbon in the benzene ring, forming THC. We now have an active THC molecule and a carbon dioxide molecule produced from an biologically inactive THC acid.
I'm guessing that this happens via an SN1 reaction because the carbocation intermediate that is formed is relatively stable due to the positive charge not just being in the benzyllic position, but actually in the benzene ring.
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ive seen this posted in a few places. is anyone able to confirm this?
 
I think the main purpose behind that quote was to say you'll get higher if you oven fresh/wet buds, rather then trying to smoke them wet?

That's a quick dry method and pretty much ruins the bud in all apsects IMO. Your much better of just letting it dry in a cupboard for a week or so.

Weed does need heat to activate all the goodies, but that's why you smoke it.
 
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YellowNikes said:
huh i wonder if anyone actually knows the answer to this
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Please dont make this thread any dumber then it already is.

Ive been oven drying and slow drying for years and I can tell you for a fact your weed isnt going to be as strong if you oven dry it over the slow dry method.
 
Wise420 said:
Please dont make this thread any dumber then it already is.

Ive been oven drying and slow drying for years and I can tell you for a fact your weed isnt going to be as strong if you oven dry it over the slow dry method.
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my post was pointless but i dont think it made it dumber...
also the op isnt talking about drying or curing the weed hes talking about taking already dried weed and putting it in the oven
 
Sounds like some stoner bullshit. Why would sticking it in the oven be any more effective at freeing it from its chemical base than vaporizing/smoking it? Having years of experience in curing and cooking with medical cannabis, I assure you that baking your weed does not make it stronger, but you might as well go for it and fuck up your stash. Learn by doing, kids.
 
That quotation is clearly taken from someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about, because the cannabinoids in cannabis aren't alkaloids. The thing about decarboxylation is true, THC-COOH is much less potent than THC, but as others have said, a proper cure will achieve the same thing and produce a far more pleasant smoke to boot. This topic is covered over and over in the edibles megathread. Answered, closed.
 
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