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All But Forgotten: The Positive LSD Experience

Super Z

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This is taken from TheDailyTransmission.com -

The revolutionary comedian Bill Hicks once said:

“Wouldn’t you like to see a positive LSD story on the news? To base your decision on information rather than scare tactics and superstition? Perhaps? Wouldn’t that be interesting? Just for once?”

Well here’s your chance. Here are some people you may not have known were inspired by LSD:

• Apple founder and CEO Steve Jobs called taking LSD “one of the two or three most important things I have done in my life.” To this end, Jobs said that Bill Gates would “be a broader guy if he had dropped acid once.”

• Many early computer pioneers took LSD for inspiration, such as Douglas Engelbart, inventor of the computer mouse.

• Francis Crick, the Nobel Prize-winning father of modern genetics, was under the influence of LSD when he first deduced the double-helix structure of DNA nearly 50 years ago.

• Cary Grant (amongst many others in 1950s Hollywood) was treated with LSD by a psychiatrist in the 1950s, long before it was made illegal:

“All my life, I’ve been searching for peace of mind. I’d explored yoga and hypnotism and made several attempts at mysticism. Nothing really seemed to give me what I wanted until this treatment.”

“I have been born again. I have been through a psychiatric experience which has completely changed me. I was horrendous. I had to face things about myself which I never admitted, which I didn’t know were there. Now I know that I hurt every woman I ever loved. I was an utter fake, a self-opinionated bore, a know-all who knew very little. I found I was hiding behind all kinds of defenses, hypocrisies and vanities. I had to get rid of them layer by layer. The moment when your conscious meets your subconscious is a hell of a wrench. With me there came a day when I saw the light.”

Much to his friends’ surprise, Cary Grant began talking about his therapy in public, lamenting, “Oh those wasted years, why didn’t I do this sooner?”

(For more on Cary Grant, see the revealing Vanity Fair article, “Cary in the Sky with Diamonds”.)

• Kary Mullis, Nobel Prize winning American bio-chemist, told Albert Hoffman (the inventor of LSD) that LSD had helped him develop the polymerase chain reaction that helps amplify specific DNA sequences:

“Back in the 1960s and early ’70s I took plenty of LSD. A lot of people were doing that in Berkeley back then. And I found it to be a mind-opening experience. It was certainly much more important than any courses I ever took.”

Replying to his own postulate during an interview for BBC’s Psychedelic Science documentary, “What if I had not taken LSD ever; would I have still invented PCR?” He replied, “I don’t know. I doubt it. I seriously doubt it.”

• Aldous Huxley is well-known for writing ‘The Doors of Perception’, an account of his experiences with mescaline. But on his deathbed, unable to speak, Huxley made a written request to his wife for “LSD, 100 µg, intramuscular”. His wife duly obliged.

• “My trip led me to some epiphanies about who I was as a performer, what I wanted to do and how I needed to create my own opportunities.” – Adam Lambert, runner-up on American Idol told The Sun.

Since 1966, we’ve lived under worldwide LSD prohibition. Ken Kesey, author of “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” said “We thought that by this time that there would be LSD given in classes in college and you would study it and prepare for it.”

Kesey gets right to the crux of the issues surrounding psychedelics in that statement. As tools, drugs such as LSD can used responsibly or irresponsibly – lead to good trips or bad trips, healing or trauma. Lacking a scientific or spiritual guide, the recreational use of psychedelic substances without planning, respect, or forethought can lead to some pretty unpleasant experiences. Which makes it all the more frustrating that there has been a complete moratorium on scientific research using LSD for over forty years (recently broken by a small handful of scientists who have finally been given permission to research LSD with terminally ill cancer patients.)

Stanislav Grof, pioneering researcher into non-ordinary states of consciousness, remarked “Whether or not LSD research and therapy will return to society, the discoveries that psychedelics made possible have revolutionary implications for our understanding of the psyche, human nature, and the nature of reality.” Isn’t it about time we awoke from our cultural amnesia?
 
• Aldous Huxley is well-known for writing ‘The Doors of Perception’, an account of his experiences with mescaline. But on his deathbed, unable to speak, Huxley made a written request to his wife for “LSD, 100 µg, intramuscular”. His wife duly obliged.

Thats one hell of a wife right there!
 
Apparently Bill Gates has taken LSD.

Kary Mullis claims he's a "scientist" but he's an AIDS denialist claiming that AIDS is not caused by HIV which is foolish. Clearly he's never had anyone close to him become HIV+ or develop AIDS, which is ironic since PCR or the viral load test detects someone who is HIV+ or who has AIDS but is part of the small percentage of humans who doesn't produce HIV antibodies so they test neg on HIV antibody tests despite having HIV/AIDS.

I know people who've been around him and he's a major douchebag.

Here are some other people who've apparently tripped.
http://www.nndb.com/lists/447/000085192/

http://www.erowid.org/culture/characters/characters_drug_use.shtml
 
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Difficult to know what to think when hateful capitalist billionaire fuckpigs like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates claim they took acid. Lets hope they had a bad trip eh?
 
I think the point is, that they weren't rich until sometime AFTER they took the LSD.

your mislabeling who is the tool here, success occurred no matter how you look at it. If I became rich by my own hard work, just because I am a hippie doesn't mean that I wouldn't go with the flow if I started making big life supporting wages.
 
Perhaps if you already had god knows how many billions in the bank you might think "Hey, that time I took acid, it sort of gave me a better view of life, I know what - I'll not hire 16 year old slave labourers in China, pack them 1000 to a 100 foot square room with no air conditioning and pay them 37 pence an hour to make xbox's. You know what? I'll treat them like human beings. Acid be praised!!"

Looks like acid isn't that powerful after all. My guess is all hateful cunts like Gates and Jobs got from acid was "Look dude, stuff wobbles".

And as for Apple:

The high environmental cost of Apple's products was revealed when three factories were discovered to be shipping hazardous waste to unqualified disposal companies.

However, Apple has not stopped using the factories.


Yep - acid sure taught Steve Jobs to respect nature eh?
 
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LSD doesn't automatically de-arsehole you, or ensure that you won't arsehole up sometime after having used it, the same as any drug.

It can help one to be a better person but it won't always. Fuck.
 
Shoot... I could tell you about some positive LSD experiences ;)

I think a lot of people who are expecting "bad trips", or the possibility of them, are thrown off guard by the LSD euphoria. It is quite overpowering.
 
Difficult to know what to think when hateful capitalist billionaire fuckpigs like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates claim they took acid. Lets hope they had a bad trip eh?

It shouldn't be shocking that it's feasible to come out of an acid trip and still be an asshole. It happens to each and every one of us, in a way -- no human being is perfect, and we still have our faults even after the best of psychedelic trips.

If acid actually changed people, beyond changes that are made willingly and rationally by the tripper -- meaning, acid actually altered its user's psychology, which is necessary to turn an egocentric person into a shining beacon of charity, then I think such a chemical would simply be so powerful and dangerous that none of us would dare approach it.
 
Cary Grant also liked to get high on acid and beat his wife when tripping.

Was that Dyan Cannon who claimed that when she was trying to get as much money out of him as she could during the divorce? Not sure whether I believe it or not.

I don't think getting violent on LSD is that common. And Cary was twice her age anyway. She could've run 500 yards while he was putting on his slippers.
 
It shouldn't be shocking that it's feasible to come out of an acid trip and still be an asshole. It happens to each and every one of us, in a way -- no human being is perfect, and we still have our faults even after the best of psychedelic trips.

True, but you'd hope that in situations where you end up a multi-billionaire you might think "I'll do things right, acid at least taught me some kind of basic respect for nature and human dignity". Maybe that's not how it works.

What I'd really like is for Steve Jobs to explain why he thinks it was "one of the two most important things that ever happened to me" when he so clearly doesn't live according to any value system at all except pitiless brutalising industrial slave-capitalism.
 
^ Steve Jobs and most of the other corporate scumfucks who have decided it's cool to confess their love of acid (the one time they took it 30 years ago) only mention it to try to sound less like the corporate cuntbags they are. There's one of those PC pioneers (one of the co-founders of Microsoft, I think?) who also did the acid thing and now spends his time espousing the joys of DMT after leaving the corporate shite behind (I think). Seems to have gotten the message more than the rest maybe.
 
I think you've hit the nail on the head there Shammy - saying you took acid that one time 30 years ago makes you sound radical and cool and not at all like a man who would make chinese teenagers work 100 hour weeks for 37 pence an hour.
 
I think you've hit the nail on the head there Shammy - saying you took acid that one time 30 years ago makes you sound radical and cool and not at all like a man who would make chinese teenagers work 100 hour weeks for 37 pence an hour.

Yeah, what we forget about these people is they are experts (or at least have experts on the payroll) in cultivating a public persona they believe will be beneficial to their business. We shouldn't really be surprised when this persona and the real-world facts about them fail to match up properly.

And I seriously doubt Jobs' onetime acid experiment in college was truly the second most important thing that ever happened to him. Was it so revelatory and illuminating that he didn't even need to try it a second time? Most of the people I've met or spoken to who considered acid valuable or important to them wouldn't just stop taking it. I mean, I consider reading valuable and important to me in the same way I do acid, and I'm never going to just pack it in and sell my books. Jobs is a very skilled media-operator, but mystic shaman of the psychedelic world he fucking aint.
 
Apparently Bill Gates has taken LSD.

Kary Mullis claims he's a "scientist" but he's an AIDS denialist claiming that AIDS is not caused by HIV which is foolish. Clearly he's never had anyone close to him become HIV+ or develop AIDS, which is ironic since PCR or the viral load test detects someone who is HIV+ or who has AIDS but is part of the small percentage of humans who doesn't produce HIV antibodies so they test neg on HIV antibody tests despite having HIV/AIDS.

I know people who've been around him and he's a major douchebag.

He's still on the denialist wagon? Jesus... HIV killed my soulmate of 20 years, Terry Turner... and almost killed me (CD4 = 50) till the Atripla one-pill-a-day miracle saved my life (now CD4=780 5 years later)

Still he DID invent the PCR method... WITH THE HELP OF ACID... AND he TALKS about this fact... so that ONE thing to give him kudos for, even if he is a douchebag.
 
Perhaps if you already had god knows how many billions in the bank you might think "Hey, that time I took acid, it sort of gave me a better view of life, I know what - I'll not hire 16 year old slave labourers in China, pack them 1000 to a 100 foot square room with no air conditioning and pay them 37 pence an hour to make xbox's. You know what? I'll treat them like human beings. Acid be praised!!"

Looks like acid isn't that powerful after all. My guess is all hateful cunts like Gates and Jobs got from acid was "Look dude, stuff wobbles".

And as for Apple:

The high environmental cost of Apple's products was revealed when three factories were discovered to be shipping hazardous waste to unqualified disposal companies.

However, Apple has not stopped using the factories.


Yep - acid sure taught Steve Jobs to respect nature eh?

Gates gives just MASSIVE amounts of his billions to really well chosen charities and medical and environmental efforts... in fact he would still be the richest person on then planet, if he hadnt given so much away, but he didn't care about that meaningless gold star, so good for him... I think he's one of the GOOD "capitalist fuckpigs". And for what Jobs did to bring elegance to to computer OSs as well as a strong competor to MS... he's a good guy too, IMO.
 
Was it so revelatory and illuminating that he didn't even need to try it a second time?

Good point. It sounds like he wants to say he took LSD so he can be "down with the kids, I'm not just another brutal sweatshop slave labour gangmaster, I'm one of the guys, so like buy my computer kids!
 
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