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Heroin Month old shot - how safe?

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i know this is not the greatest idea but person has had a hit sitting in their room for a couple of months with no blood in it and was wondering if they was to re cook it and use a new syringe just how much safer are they making it for them selves ?
 
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Hi smackcract,

We don't use SWIM here so please edit your post to use proper pronouns.

You should not be cooking your shot at all as it merely serves to let more insoluble cut get into solution which is something that you don't want. To kill bacteria with boiling water it must be boiled for about 20min at least.

Unless you have already micron filtered the hit and stored it in a sealed container of bacteriostatic water this is not a good idea.
 
good ive never knew wth swim meant anyway xD

just i was on another site and they said i had to use it for some reason

um the hit was made about 3 months ago cooked , filtered with a roll up filter and has sat there all this time

do u meant person should stick the syringe/barrel in to boiling water so that it kills the bactiria in the barrel then move it to another one ?
 
NO

If it is heroin, then by now it has certainly hydrolyzed into morphine. Leaving a shot of heroin to sit for more than ~10 hours will let it hydrolyze into morphine. Also, unless you prepared the shot using a drug from a sterile ampule or micron filtered with bacteriostatic water, then there is a chance of bacteria growing and other semi-insoluble cuts re-crystallizing.

EDIT:Fuck! You all beat me to it while i was typing ! Instant ban. Bah

I suppose there is a small chance you could shoot it and get away with it un-harmed, but there are a number of risk factors and it honestly is a horrible idea. It would be anti harm reduction to tell you anything otherwise.

Chuck it and make up a fresh shot.
 
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smackcraft said:
do u meant person should stick the syringe/barrel in to boiling water so that it kills the bactiria in the barrel then move it to another one ?
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No.. He means you should boil water for twenty minutes, and then use THAT water to make up your shot. You don't need to add heat to heroin, except for some tar. Powder heroin, pills, cocaine, meth.. all DO NOT require heat to shoot. It just adds more insoluble cuts, and doesn't kill the bacteria. Like amapola said water needs to be boiled for at least 20 minutes to kill bacteria.
 
believe me if there was teh choice of making another on up person would definitely do so but no money im afraid

had a few drinks and sick to death of crappy methadone so thought that could of been used but oh well guess its yet another boring as hell night =(

thanks for teh answers , better safe than sorry
 
shoot it into a spoon, cut a piece of straw and snort it.. it's still safe that way.. or just squirt it straight up your nose (just dont poke yourself)

EDIT: or what the post before me said
 
axe battler said:
up your butt maybe?
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jeysus , forgot all about that xD

been so long since person has had to do that but the problem is the syringe is not the kind you can do that with because it doesnt have detachable syringe from the barrel

and that would just be 8o lol

good idea tho
 
Morphine's bioavailability oral to rectal is quite similar. Although you may get a bit more of a rush by plugging it will unfortunately likely not get you any higher.
 
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never tried that before , ok .. sold .. thanks :)
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ive done it back in the day.. i made up a shot and realized we had no rigs and i was too sick to wait to go to the store 3minutes away lol.. so i snorted it right outta the spoon and got equally high if not a little more than if it was powder.. but you need to make sure you get as least as possible running down the back of your throat. The more you keep in your nasal cavity the better.. maybe split it in 3 snorts like 2min apart? and remember it's morphine now so it may feel different or might not work as well as dope.
 
you could evaporate it then dump a little vodka ontop of the powder.
evap that and make a new shot...


could also just add some high proof ethanol(everclear?) to the shot, not sure how much you'd need top kill the bacteria though.
 
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i think he is on 'done, i donno if for maintenance or just recreationally but in one of his posts he said he's sick of methadone.
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Yeah been on methadone for over a year and down to 35ml per day from 90ml per day so it does nothing anymore, well apart from the obvious of keeping the withdrawals away unless take less for a few days then take a much larger dose but its not the same as a shot

after looking at it properly it got thrown out cos it wasnt looking very healthy at all and didnt want to risk it

but its still good to know for future reference and for others also


oh btw i noticed the title of the thread changed , it was 3 months old
 
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If it is heroin, then by now it has certainly hydrolyzed into morphine. Leaving a shot of heroin to sit for more than ~10 hours will let it hydrolyze into morphine.
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A lot of people claim certain figures of how fast heroin will hydrolyze into morphine but I haven't seen any substantiation of this.

I did find this...

Electron-capture gas-liquid chromatography was used to study the spontaneous hydrolysis of heroin in phosphate buffer (pH 6.4 and pH 7.4) at 23 degrees C. Aliquots of solution were taken over a 24-h period. After extraction at pH 8.9 into propan-2-ol (10%)-ethyl acetate, deacetylated products were made into hepafluorobutyrate derivatives which were analyzed quantitatively using nalorphine as the internal standard. Heroin decomposes to 06-monoacetylmorphine (06-MAM) under these conditions. Further decomposition to morphine was not observed. Spontaneous hydrolysis was faster at pH 7.4 (first-order rate constant, 9.6 x 10-5 min-1) than at pH 6.4 (first-order rate constant, 3.0 x 10-5 min-1). In 24 h, the decomposition to 06-MAM was 13 and 4%, respectively.(source)
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