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trust me if you do have an addictive personality (like me) i wouldn't bother trying heroin, most people don't like it there first time... but for those who did, they will use again and again... counting how deep you get yourself (or how your life is) which is just not worth it, stick to codeine or other prescriptions :P
 
Ahem.

So what about that 'pre-drought fire' you were raving about just last week?

Y'know, that stuff that everybody else thought was bash? :)


Hey man ;)

Haha, 'pre-drought fire'. Ridiculous phrase all the same, eh? A lot of the British seem to be using it which tends to be recognised more than Irish equivalents on a forum consisting of a blatant British majority. As for 'what about it'; what about it? I mean...are you interested in any specifics? I scored it last week, last night and again tonight; same price and quality - pre-drought from the same chap.

Everyone else? Who? If you're referring to ructions - which in all fairness is far from 'everyone else', that was different product.
No offence, but if you again look over those posts you apparently glossed, you may be able to notice your misinterpretations. However I feel it only proper to stipulate may - again, no offence intended. If only I was arsed in the slightest, I'd give you a hand.

Pardon me if I'm coming across a tad slow this morning friend, on the nod :)
I'll presume you attained some quality product yourself then...?

I hope all is well with you, Grim.



(PS: Jspun - will get back to that PM tomorrow morning bro, take care and thanks for the send man).
 
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@ runctions
Did you see that Steve Ignorant had to postpone his USA gigs? Something has gone wrong with their visas, so they are going to postpone the gigs for now, its such a shame!!

hank our Treasonous "PATRIOT ACT". He has probably been identified as being subversive, an Enemy of the State. Anyway better post fast before the I go into Soma Coma so if my posts become jibershish you know why. Endless I work 2morrow so I'll see your pm later (early next day your time.) Its 2115 here in San Diego ATM.

Light at the end of the tunnel, time to stand up for our democracy. From old drugs in the media post by yerg:

http://www.economist.com/world/inter...ry_id=14845095

"Drugs:Virtually Legal"-The Economist-14/11/09

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Virtually Legal
In many countries, full jails, stretched budgets and a general weariness with the war on drugs have made prohibition harder to enforce

THE Green Relief “natural health clinic” in a bohemian part of San Francisco doesn’t sound like an ordinary doctor’s surgery. For those who wonder about the sort of relief provided, its logo—a cannabis leaf—is a clue. Inside, in under an hour and for $99, patients can get a doctor’s letter allowing them to smoke marijuana in California with no fear of prosecution. In a state that pioneered bans on smoking tobacco, smoking cannabis is now easier than almost anywhere in the world.

California, with its network of pot-friendly physicians, offers the most visible evidence of a tentative worldwide shift towards a more liberal policy on drugs. Although most countries remain bound by a trio of United Nations conventions that prohibit the sale and possession of narcotics, laws are increasingly being bent or ignored. That is true even in the United States, where the Obama administration has announced that registered cannabis dispensaries will no longer be raided by federal authorities.
From heroin “shooting galleries” in Vancouver to Mexico’s decriminalisation of personal possession of drugs, the Americas are suddenly looking more permissive. Meanwhile in Europe, where drugs policy is generally less stringent, seven countries have decriminalised drug possession, and the rest are increasingly ignoring their supposedly harsh regimes. Is the “war on drugs” becoming a fiction?

Reformers are in a bold mood. Earlier this year a report by ex-presidents of Brazil, Colombia and Mexico called for alternatives to prohibition. On November 12th a British think-tank, Transform, launched a report* setting out ideas on how drugs could be legally regulated. For every substance from cannabis to crack, it suggests a form of regulation, via doctors’ prescriptions, pharmacy sales or consumption on licensed premises.

That world is still some way off. But a debate about regulation is increasingly drowning out the one about enforcement. Take America, where 13 states let people smoke marijuana for medical reasons. Most set somewhat stricter terms than California—where insomnia, migraines and post-traumatic stress can all be reasons for a spliff, if you see the right doctor. “There’s never been a person born who couldn’t qualify,” says Keith Stroup, the founder of the National Organisation for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, a lobby group that has been around since 1970. “In California, the system of medical use they have adopted is in fact a version of legalisation.”

Elsewhere in the United States, there are many signs of prohibition ebbing away. Some 14 states have decriminalised the possession of marijuana for personal use (medical or otherwise), though most keep the option of a $100 civil penalty. Three states—New Mexico, Rhode Island and Massachusetts—license non-profit corporations to grow medical marijuana. Most radically, some states are considering legalising the drug completely. California and Massachusetts are holding committee hearings on bills to legalise pot outright; Oregon is expected to introduce such a bill within the next couple of weeks.

One reason for the sudden popularity of cannabis is financial. Tom Ammiano, the California assemblyman who introduced the bill to legalise marijuana earlier this year, points out that were it taxed it could raise some $1.3 billion a year for state coffers, based on a $50 per ounce levy on sales. As an added benefit to the public purse, lots of police time and prison space would be freed up. California’s jails heave with 170,000 inmates, almost a fifth of them inside for drug-related crimes, albeit mostly worse than just possessing a spliff.

In Europe, the authorities face similar pressures: the difficulty of enforcement, and bursting courts and prisons. So the tough sentences recommended in the laws of many European countries are seldom handed out. London’s police chief said last week that law-breakers of all kinds were escaping with cautions or on-the-spot fines, because of pressure on the courts.

Though many European countries still have prison as an option for convicted drug users, in reality only a fraction end up in jail, according to new research from the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, the EU’s drug agency (see chart). What is more, the sentences are shorter in reality than politicians like to pretend. In Denmark the top sentence for a standard drug offence was recently raised from six to ten years, but the average time actually served is 20 months. More startling is Britain, where possession of cannabis can, in theory, result in a five-year prison term. In fact just 0.2% of people found in possession of pot go to jail; most of the rest get off with a warning. The few who go behind bars—usually serial offenders, or suspected dealers—do an average of three months.

Europe’s lenient lands
Elsewhere in Europe, the law itself is softer. Personal possession of any drug—even the hardest—is not a crime in Spain, Portugal, Italy, the Czech Republic or the Baltic states. Some German states and Swiss cantons take the same line. Portugal is especially liberal: rather than fining users or punishing them in other ways (such as removing their driving licences), it usually just impounds their stash and sends them on a course of treatment and dissuasion. Since it began in 2001, the policy has led to a rise in the number of people seeking treatment but no apparent increase in use.

Experiments like these seem to have been noted in the White House. Barack Obama’s drug tsar, Gil Kerlikowske, has been at pains to distance himself from talk of legalisation of cannabis, or any other drug. (Legalising pot is a “non-starter”, he said on October 23rd.) But it is clear that the election of Mr Obama, who in the past has called the war on drugs an “utter failure”, has affected policy both in the United States and elsewhere in the Americas.

Under the Bush administration, cannabis dispensaries were shut down, regardless of the laws of the state in which they operated. The new political climate in Washington, DC, has made it easier for Canada to take a more liberal line on cannabis. In British Columbia, harder drugs are treated in innovative ways too: heroin addicts can get their doses on prescription, and take them in supervised conditions.

Farther south, the results of Mr Obama’s election seem dramatic. In August, Mexico decriminalised the possession of small amounts of any drug—from cannabis to crack—in a bid to free its federal agents to focus on bringing traffickers to justice. It had tried to do so in 2006, but howls of protest from the Bush administration halted the move at the eleventh hour. In August, Argentina’s supreme court said it was unconstitutional to prosecute people for drug possession. The following month, Colombia’s supreme court issued a similar ruling. Now, Brazil and Ecuador are said to be mulling decriminalisation.

It remains to be seen whether these moves will help stem the bloodshed that has engulfed the region. In Ciudad Juárez, a Mexican border town ravaged by trafficking wars, some 2,000 people have been murdered this year, making it one of the riskiest places on earth.

Decriminalising personal possession, though helpful in other ways, won’t do much to tackle organised crime, which retains its grip on the market. But America’s tentative moves in the direction of legalising the supply of drugs, rather than just going easy on users, could start to change things. Sanho Tree, of the Institute for Policy Studies, an American think-tank, notes that Mexico’s cartels are thought to get about 70% of their income from sending marijuana north. The higher the legal production, the harder that will be.

If California’s hippies long for legalisation, the bullet-weary citizens of Mexico’s poorest barrios are even keener.

* “After The War On Drugs: Blueprint For Regulation”, from Transform Drugs Policy Foundation.
http://www.economist.com/world/inter...ry_id=14845095

saw HBO movie about afgan war- They found a ball of opium in one scene and several kilos of a powder of a light color I had seldom seen here in tar country, made my mouth salivate, have 2 admit. This was from 2010- The USFIA didn't seem to give a shit. A local said "I wish America would leave and the Taliban would leave, we just want peace and brotherhood." Probably a poppy farmer that would benefit from free market created by the taliban manipulating supply. But the Taliban is one of many players.

Anyway, some mellow, ect tunes on a different vibe

Some sublime:

Scarlet Begonias- Dead Cover


some tunes in a different direction

Grateful Dead "Box of Rain"

Something we can all relate to

Dead: "Candyman"

Dead: Morning Dew

For the Patriotic Californian in me:

Estimated Prophet (more dead)

From your side of the Pond, Homegrown:

I can think of no other song that deals with your situtation AKA "The Drought"

From the legendary Beatles:

Here comes the Sun

A toast to the droughts end.
 
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fucking helll this drought has gone on so long, i know its better thn it was, but its smaller weaker and more expensive. doin ma head in ....

im so bored i was just readin over the other threads, jeasus, its march now, i wouldnt normally be thinking about november in march, or that sad day in december 1sty dec when the ble scum beat the villa.. fucking hell man,, and its been all bollox i should be richer now without butin gear, but really im not its all so feckin confusing!!!
 
fucking helll this drought has gone on so long, i know its better thn it was, but its smaller weaker and more expensive. doin ma head in ....

im so bored i was just readin over the other threads, jeasus, its march now, i wouldnt normally be thinking about november in march, or that sad day in december 1sty dec when the ble scum beat the villa.. fucking hell man,, and its been all bollox i should be richer now without butin gear, but really im not its all so feckin confusing!!!

Shouldn't you be using the drought as an opportunity to just quit? Or replace it with a less destructive drug such? is it possible to use occasionally and recreationally? I understand the boredom but probably not on your level, I quit weed and started drinking more, you have to want to quit though I guess.
 
Фёдор - г.Белго

НАСТРОЕНИЕ ПРОСТО ПОДРЫВАЕ В ПРЯМОМ СМЫСЛЕ СЛОВА

 
It is just displaying the client's IP address and their environment (OS, browser). You can prove this if you are browsing on a mobile phone by connecting once through wi-fi and again through 3g. You'll get different IP addresses each time.

You can change the apparent OS and browser with User Agent Switcher in Firefox, but there's no way not to have the far end know your IP address - that's the only way it knows where to send its response to!
 
Do you mean the same sort of thing like when someone sends an e-mail with their blackberry? It says something like 'sent from my blackberry'.

Got me wondering seeing as he's Russian or speaks it, why is this site's address 'ru'? Is the server based in Russia?
 
@jspun

Great posts there uncle spun :)

Maybe if they can legalise cannabis everywhere or even in just parts of countries, it would be a start, and have a snowball effect on legalising all drugs (well we can only hope).

Something made me think the other day, I don't really follow politics, they all lying b@@tards anyway and i have no time for them. but was just thinking, if i wrote a letter to my MP, my name & address would be on the letter (obviously would have to put this on for them to reply, that;s if they even bother to reply lol), but would be wary of my name and address being tied in with being a drug user, seeing as the authorities have no idea i'm a user, so wouldn't want a comeback if this makes sense!

Trouble is i am a bit of a pessimist, i don't think legalising will happen in my life time, or maybe that;s just me being a cynic. well you never know!

Just wonder if i could send a letter and put my drug clinics address on, or the drug counselling centre i attend, then my address doesn't come into it. the repkly from my MP could be send back to my clinic.

Something I will have to look into a bit more as would love to send a letter, i the sort of person who is a doer more than a thinker.

i like the 'here comezs the sun sioneg' BTW

kep up wiv the good work spunny! :)
 
Shouldn't you be using the drought as an opportunity to just quit? Or replace it with a less destructive drug such? is it possible to use occasionally and recreationally? I understand the boredom but probably not on your level, I quit weed and started drinking more, you have to want to quit though I guess.

i douuno about anyone else but i;m usign this drought to stop the gear, am sick of the shite ger in this coutnyr and don't wanna have owt to do with it anymore. i'm not prepared to contribute to me dealers lifesstyle and subsidise towards his flashy fkn BMW

tbh, i was tinkwering with stopping, it was in the back of my mind before the droguth, so this drought came at the right time for me and was the boot up the backside that i needed. i now know that i have had enughg pf using everday, don't want to carrying on using. for the firast time in my life it has taught me i don't NNEED gear & i won't die without it. my smack days are getting l;ess & less and eventually will be over

btw, having a everyone now & again habiot is heading f0r a fuk up as far as im concerbed. if you've got meth or sub to fall back on, fair enough, you have a better chance, but to keep a smack habit under contro,l with no meds like subs or meth without is heading for disaster

so anyone thinking of being a ''weekend warrior'' or using once every 2 weeks or wotver, DON't)!!!! take it from me, nothing to fall beck on you za\re heading for a disaster.

btw botly, weed might be ok, but drink is proper bad news, might sound like a hypocrit as i drink mesself but it causes more damage and has a lot of fucks uops of it's own. try not to swap on e drug for another

stay safe mate

all the bsst ------ baskket
 
Hey man ;)

Haha, 'pre-drought fire'. Ridiculous phrase all the same, eh? A lot of the British seem to be using it which tends to be recognised more than Irish equivalents on a forum consisting of a blatant British majority. As for 'what about it'; what about it? I mean...are you interested in any specifics? I scored it last week, last night and again tonight; same price and quality - pre-drought from the same chap.

Everyone else? Who? If you're referring to ructions - which in all fairness is far from 'everyone else', that was different product.
No offence, but if you again look over those posts you apparently glossed, you may be able to notice your misinterpretations. However I feel it only proper to stipulate may - again, no offence intended. If only I was arsed in the slightest, I'd give you a hand.

Pardon me if I'm coming across a tad slow this morning friend, on the nod :)
I'll presume you attained some quality product yourself then...?

I hope all is well with you, Grim.



(PS: Jspun - will get back to that PM tomorrow morning bro, take care and thanks for the send man).

Ah now, lets all try to get on. I think what SamhainGrim meant was that you said you had been clean for 6 months in your post yet you had been using the week before.

Endless...... you know i think that your a top bloke, but as this forum is the welfare & protection of all H users i thought that it was only fair to say last week that the H that you did call pre drought gear was from the very same batch of gear that i got & i graded it 2/10 H. I wasn't trying to get at you personally!! If you were getting gear like that before the drought then that is fair enough, but most people wouldn't have considered that H any good at all. I'm not saying that your no good, i'm just saying that the same H that you & i both had in my opinion was no good.

I suppose that you were just getting different gear before the drought from what i got. I have scored off the same 2 people for years & they have always had good quality H so that is just what i'm used to. But i would have hated for people to have gone running out to score spending their hard earned cash when they heard that you got pre drought H, so it was great that people who read this thread could see two different peoples opinion on the very same batch of H.

I'm glad to hear that you scored good gear this week, but again peoples version of good can be very different. But look if your happy with what you got then that is the main thing!! But to be accurate the drought in Dublin is far from over, there is 2/10 H everywhere, just the same as last week.

It is great tat you got such a buzz off that gear last week, you said that you were on the nod & totally stoned from it, so that is great, at least you got a good buzz!! But neither my boyfriend or I could get any stone off it what so ever & we didn't even take our meth that day, so its just a case of different folks for different strokes!! But its good that you are enjoying it, that is all that matters!! :)
 
what was that cartoon porn all about? and why did they choose hear to put it up?

where have all the other people gone anyway? coz i know this droughts aint over, they must have bigger and better lives than me!!!! my life has gone all topsy turvy due to this drought.... there was topsy turvy goin on a bit any way, but the kinda stuff that id say is liable to happen to any parent (single or other wise) so i just dont know.... what i do know is that my brain is too fast, i get bored too easy and i spend far too much time on me own now, its really getting on my nerves i want to party and i want to party hard... the thing is that when i really got into that i want to party hard mode, coz i werent doin gear, people thought i was a bit strange and too excitable...
 
what was that cartoon porn all about? and why did they choose hear to put it up?

where have all the other people gone anyway? coz i know this droughts aint over, they must have bigger and better lives than me!!!! my life has gone all topsy turvy due to this drought.... there was topsy turvy goin on a bit any way, but the kinda stuff that id say is liable to happen to any parent (single or other wise) so i just dont know.... what i do know is that my brain is too fast, i get bored too easy and i spend far too much time on me own now, its really getting on my nerves i want to party and i want to party hard... the thing is that when i really got into that i want to party hard mode, coz i werent doin gear, people thought i was a bit strange and too excitable...

Yeah Pinky that cartoon is sure strange!!!!

The drought is dragging on at this stage & yeah its really is hard to get into a new routine without H, but we'll get there. I'm not to sure that this harvest will bring the H back? At this stage i'm not sure if things will ever get back to normal? & yeah life can be very boring without H, but we'll live to fight another day!!!

Take care of yourself Pinky!!! Chin up, we're all due some good luck sooooon!!! :)
 
its crazy tho, ructions, i used to watch telly, i used to read newspapers, i used to friggin listen to boring old radio 4 here, the lack of gear has turned me off watching telly , the news is all such a smoke and mirrors job, theres all sorts of mad little ways my lie has changed coz of this drought... im not working now, i had 2 jobs, but ill be going back to my main job after easter.. i really dont know if its the lack of gear or just good old fashionned all work and no play made me go off sick.

but im so so bored without work, but know im not ready to go back. im laughin at stuff still, but more in me own bubble without gear than i was with.. thing is, i f i told all this to me drugs worker, she'd know that ive been lying all long about me occasional use, because ive been right bang at it, never even tried to dstop smoking really if im honest.,, basically because i realise now i didnt want to stop smoking gear, and the drought has made me realise why i dont want to stop smoking gear, hard to explain.. probably a combo of exhaustion and stress
 
to Ructs, and ans all me mates on here :D

hey up ructstions me oldmate hows thing hanging? :D u are the lovelist friendliest, honest and most sound & up front person from your posts i can tel;l;, i really think you are too good for a hirrible smack habit and i think all BL members on here are. of all the bagheads i know in real rife that have takebn the piss & robbed off me |& trate me like shits, ppl on here i am anazed at how sound as a pound they are. All me BL mates and ppl who i have nmet online are just FAR too good for shiity smack habits..pinkypapver, unkle jspun, brimz, kkat, misternoodles, zara, headcandy, somni, ructs, chinawite, yhafftlaff, shambles, blondin, endless, samhaim=n, papasom etc etc etc (so much apologioes if i missed any one out <3)

i was just wondering maybe endless thinks the gear he gets is pretty good cos he has a low tolerance, isn';t he basically off the gear and does the odd bit every now & again?

cos he has a low tolerance maybe he feels the gear more? IDK, just5 my thoguth s and my 2 pence worth?

i dunno cos i don't know endless personally, and don't know what gear & how much he was takin bweofree droughttttttt, anywa, it's just a thought anyqwhoo

sorru iof my posts are a big fucked up, i went to my clinic today and had a clean sample (whOOOOOnow! do i get a gold star? lol) and told them to hold on to the benzo taper. i wtote in another thread tother day & good old shAMMY shambles REminded me that i'm on 2 tapers at thwe sa\me time, so i saiud to my clinic ""@hey! wait a bloody minute, just one taper at a time perleease! tuile i transfer over to subbies at least"". so they have oput my benzo taper on hold for now. tank fuck for theat!

cos i got a clean i had a celebration, a celebration wiv the vodka. proper job!
 
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its crazy tho, ructions, i used to watch telly, i used to read newspapers, i used to friggin listen to boring old radio 4 here, the lack of gear has turned me off watching telly , the news is all such a smoke and mirrors job, theres all sorts of mad little ways my lie has changed coz of this drought... im not working now, i had 2 jobs, but ill be going back to my main job after easter.. i really dont know if its the lack of gear or just good old fashionned all work and no play made me go off sick.

but im so so bored without work, but know im not ready to go back. im laughin at stuff still, but more in me own bubble without gear than i was with.. thing is, i f i told all this to me drugs worker, she'd know that ive been lying all long about me occasional use, because ive been right bang at it, never even tried to dstop smoking really if im honest.,, basically because i realise now i didnt want to stop smoking gear, and the drought has made me realise why i dont want to stop smoking gear, hard to explain.. probably a combo of exhaustion and stress

When you think of it Pinky, you used to always be so busy with work, you were always rushing out to work, so it makes sense that you would be bored now!! I know exactly what you mean about not wanting to watch T.V ect, i'm the very same, things like that remind me of being stoned & its just not the same without a smoke!! :\

I always thought that i wanted to get clean, but it frightens me now to think that after 4 months of being unable to score proper gear i want it more then ever!!! I really thought that i would be over it by now, but i think about nothing else but H & when i'm on these threads i talk about nothing else but H, its an obsession!!

So don't give yourself a hard time about it, i know its hard but try & enjoy your time off work, coz you'll be back working before you know it!! Lets just hope that the drought ends soooooon!! The mad thing is there was no H in Dublin what so ever for months, but there is H around now but its cut down to 2/10 & its everywhere!!! North Dublin, South Dublin, City Center, everywhere!! Hopefully if people stop buying this low grade H then the dealers will stop dancing on it!! I can understand when people first scored the 2/10 H over here they thought it was good compared to the bash that we had been getting, it nearly had me fooled at first too!! But people are well wide to it now, so hopefully things will pick up soon?!

Hang in there Pinky, our day will come!!!! :)
 
my bloke is watching tottneham and AC Milam atm, boring shit to me, but even so it's nil nil __ european champs league. ahhhhit's just finidhes so i can go back to listening to some top Foooookin choooons onm CD player

pinky, you are sound as a pound

i thinmk we should all have a get together, all thr lasses and the lads from BL. lets have a meeting. wouln't it be great if we cuold have a proopwer ound holdiday abroad. i'm up for that, nop am serious. book sdome sdort of coach tour and just fuck off the world behind =D:D=D:D<3<3<38o:);)=D:D:)8o;)=D
 
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