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how to use acid to change personality?

how can anyone honestly answer that question?

Psychadelics can be a good guide, but that's all it is, just a guide. It's not gonna magically solve your problems, you gotta do that yourself.

I am a bit antisocial myself, and get nervous around people like you do. I took lsd last night. I had a fantastic time. However, nothing much has changed.

I think you're going about this the wrong way, just my 2 cents though.

+1,000

I've had social anxiety before and you have to force yourself to change. Start out small by forcing yourself to talk to people or by being more outgoing in situations where you have trouble doing this.
 
One of the first issues is you're 17 and 90 pounds.

Depending on your height, this natural physical condition could be the root of a lot of tension in your life!!!

Get to the gym, balance your diet (drink protein shakes), and your social anxiety will start to fade.

Seriously.
 
Regardless of what some people tell you, drugs won't solve your problems. True, psychedelics can help you to delve into your deepest mind and make your problems surface right to your face, but like aforementioned, that could give you a terribly hard time. Plus, I find cannabis to do this as well but to a healthy degree. Unlike alcohol, Psychedelics have the capacity to make you feel very humble, and that's a good starting point to begin treating your issues, but they can't by no means heal you.

Get a therapist. Most therapists will not respect your drug use, but a good one won't try to talk you out of it. Therapy is the real answer to improving your personality. It's a process that elapses a few years, and requires a lot of patience, but it pays off incredibly well at the end.

Keep in mind, you're only 17. Even though I'm not much older than that, I can tell you that similar problems I faced can actually resolve themselves overtime. Due to my personality, I faced a lot of trials that could have easily broken me, but instead they empowered me. I learnt from experiences and managed to change my thinking through them. Give that a thought before you go overboard with experiments.
 
The only way to take the next step in your life with your desired goals is to actually make the effort. Yeah, psychedelic, or dissociative drugs can help you dive in to yourself, but if you all ready have issues with yourself, a psychedelic could potentially turn those against you (negative emotional response to thinking about your problems), if you don't let go and become accepting of yourself.

Also, as someone who has social anxiety, and general anxiety, let me just tell you, psychedelic drugs are not going to perform like a miracle drug. They may get you thinking, or put some motivation in your life for the next few days, but really once those psychedelics are out of your system you left up to yourself to do the rest of the work. And by god it is work to get a monkey off your back. It wasn't until this past year that I've finally went 2 consecutive weeks with out any anxiety. Let me tell you, there was not any real significant help from drugs, and in all reality, drugs can put a damper on your progression with trying to alleviate your problems. I mean, I've taken a lot of my experiences, but what actually makes a change is you. I'll admit, my drug use has hurt my social life in certain ways, or well, I hurt myself with irresponsible drug use. Not that I would really consider my drug habits to have had that large of an impact, but it has the potential to create more problems than you began with, especially when you fall back on old habits (dealing with anxiety, or other mental disorder). Keep that in mind if you do choose to get involved with psychotropic substances.

So really, I'd say, you should probably make a few steps in your life before you actually decide to consume a psychedelic substance. In a negative state of mind (whether or not the actually trip was "bad"), the benefits of psychedelic drugs can be non-existent, and potentially dangerous. For one because it can exacerbate pre-existing mental disorders, but one can read to much into the experience, especially when they are trying so hard to find something to believe in, some sort of truth to validate themselves. If you make some progressions in your problems, in your life, even with the smallest little baby steps, you'll start to see the light of possibilities, as well as the confidence in yourself. At this point, I wouldn't necessarily disagree with the thought of consuming a psychedelic, but cognitive behavior therapy is where it all starts, with psychedelics being able to used as tool to keep you motivated, once you put the foundations in.

Man, let me just tell you from my 18-21 years (not sure when it started, but I've had certain lasting problems for as long as I can remember) of dealing with anxiety, ADD/ADHD, etc. Its hard as a motherfucker to break your habits, but once you make yourself feel uncomfortable (taking risks) and acknowledge that you are doing this for yourself, you'll notice that it really wasn't as hard as you've been making it. I am probably not near being finished with trying to make my anxiety officially a part of my past, but I can't fucking believe I was functioning the way I was. I couldn't believe the how silly a lot of the impulsive avoidance tendencies I have are. Yeah, you wont be able to see in the future, so its hard to think that there is light at the end of the tunnel, but man, like i said, take some risks, make yourself uncomfortable and say "fuck it, I'm going to push through this!", and umm... say hi to that chick you've like but never had the balls to go talk to (just a random example, but I know that one of the worst things about my social anxiety was not having the interactions with chicks that I wanted to have).

A little side note, I will say, dissociative drugs, in particular ketamine seem IMO to be more adept at performing "metaprogramming", and you get the added benefits of synaptic plasticity of the NMDA receptors (deals with memory, learning ,etc [just tip of iceberg]), with anti-depressant effects seen in studies to have better efficacy than the anti-depressants on the market, like your SSRI's. Now, I know I should be careful saying this, but I found ketamine to strip away my anxiety/what was left of it. Not saying this will work for you, or anyone else, but while having a lot of my life flowing on a steady positive path, the beneficial effects of k become more pronounced (drugs don't fix problems, they can help get you through your issues with cognitive behavior therapy as the primary source of positive influence)
 
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I was in the same boat as you at your age and currently still am today 7years later.

Lifting weights --> gaining muscle is about the best thing that happened to me but even then I was still depressed, marathon running ----> made me extremely lean made me feel no anxiety at all but destroyed my confidence coz i was so skinny, good diet, changing different groups of friends, lots of supplements, girlfiends, sex, masturbation, anti depressants, getting a good job, lots of drug experimentation none of which has helped achieve my goal of living a happier life.

I believe some people are just destined to be a sociopath and maybe everyone isnt meant to be an extrovert?
I for one am so much of an introvert it scares me to the point I know my own destiny of ending up lonely with no one to talk to.

Love is about the only thing that improved my quality of life but that only lasted a month then I got my heart ripped out.

Sorry to say it mate but your probably fcuked for life you can make changes in every direction of your life and do all the drugs in the world but nothing can save you from yourself.
All the love you have is in your mind and for some people (like me) I cant be able to find love in my mind.

Hope you find happiness but my advise to you is dont take drugs, thats the one thing I can seriously say to you as I know doing drugs has knocked down the doors of perception for me and this is bad because we live in a world where ideally we're meant to be brainwashed and drugs take you out of that mentality which is why the government demonize the use of them.

Ignorance is bliss my friend.
 
Also do not take Ketamine I dont care what anyone says it is the most addictive drug on this planet and I have done every known illegal drug and even IV'd heroin more than 20 times and still nothing has ever got a grip of me like Ketamine.

It plagued me with crippling depression and is probably the most unsociable drug in the world I used to go out with my mates and be the only one taking it out my head retarded gormless dumbass who doesnt make conversation or get jokes coz im so slow in the head from K.

Honestly do not listen to the advise from Cloudy (no offense) but Ketamine has destroyed my life, bladder, probably brain as I cant seem to concentrate anymore so I cant seem to learn new stuff, also my speech is really slurred now and even after a couple months of giving it up I still feel like death warmed up and mentally retarded.
Ketamine has well and truly turned me into a vegetable, stay clear my dear friend.
 
I was in the same boat as you at your age and currently still am today 7years later.

Lifting weights --> gaining muscle is about the best thing that happened to me but even then I was still depressed, marathon running ----> made me extremely lean made me feel no anxiety at all but destroyed my confidence coz i was so skinny, good diet, changing different groups of friends, lots of supplements, girlfiends, sex, masturbation, anti depressants, getting a good job, lots of drug experimentation none of which has helped achieve my goal of living a happier life.

I believe some people are just destined to be a sociopath and maybe everyone isnt meant to be an extrovert?
I for one am so much of an introvert it scares me to the point I know my own destiny of ending up lonely with no one to talk to.

Love is about the only thing that improved my quality of life but that only lasted a month then I got my heart ripped out.

Sorry to say it mate but your probably fcuked for life you can make changes in every direction of your life and do all the drugs in the world but nothing can save you from yourself.
All the love you have is in your mind and for some people (like me) I cant be able to find love in my mind.

Hope you find happiness but my advise to you is dont take drugs, thats the one thing I can seriously say to you as I know doing drugs has knocked down the doors of perception for me and this is bad because we live in a world where ideally we're meant to be brainwashed and drugs take you out of that mentality which is why the government demonize the use of them.

Ignorance is bliss my friend.

Sorry to hear about your hardships, but there's no reason to pass that impression onto other people. How much have you seen of this world to say that you or anyone else are 'fucked for life'?

Sure, sometimes life seems like an endless barrage of shit that keeps coming at you whatever you do. You know what? I would say most people experience this stuff at one point or another. Not knowing your exact disposition in life, I will assume you are not dying of an incurable disease, not struggling with a crippling handicap, and not subject to extreme poverty or warfare.

No offence, but your behavior is self defeating. A girl broke your heart and you're ready to give up on living? I got my heart broken more than I could count, and trust me, each time it felt like someone rammed one of those spiky medieval clubs through my chest. But think about it this way: If you're capable of feeling that much pain, it goes to reason that you can also experience the exact contrary. to a guy in your position this all must sounds incredibly over-simplistic, but it's still true. Even people who survive a suicide attempt, and are left with a huge scar to carry for the rest of their lives find a way back to the top.

I'm not going to try to convince you that life is worth living. You have to realize that yourself before anyone can help you. But please, for the love of god, don't try to infect other people into thinking like that. Sorry if this sounds a little bit aggressive.
 
hi, so this is my first time using this site, not sure if this is in the rite area, but...

I wants to use lsd for therapeutic reasons. I am usually really shy, and get nervous around people, and am really antisocial. how can I use lsd to change myselff? and btw I has never used any drugs b4, and am 17, male, and 90 pounds, will this make any difference? thanks

Hey, I used LSD for the exact same reason you are hoping to about a year ago.

here's what I did and found from using it theraputically:

I used it 2 - 3 times a week by myself for about four months, I used to be very shy and insecure and doing it at first felt very uncomfortable.

The more I did it the easier it became to manage though and now I can do it in almost any situation and feel completely comfortable. Doing it more and more made me alot more comfortable within my own mind, things that used to dominate my thoughts such as death, what people thought of me etc. became less important to me.

It made me alot more analytical and gave me alot of perspective on most things, in a sense it made me a more relaxed and laid back individual. Petty things such as people eating my food out of the fridge don't bother me as much anymore. I'd say overall if you do it properly it's well worth while

Just a warning though doing it to this extent is very much like sending your brain through a mental obstacle course, there were times when I thought my mind could go either way in terms of my mental state improving and it getting worse.. Overall these days it's alot better thanks to that time I spent doing LSD.

hope that helps.

I'd say LSD is more use than MDMA in terms of theraputic potential, Once you start coming down from MDMA you'll feel worse than before. Not to mention embarrased if you've been around other people and said some daft things. LSD is way better in my opinion, has far more complex and deep effects on your brain.
 
Um. OP could consider mescaline as well; it seems to be particularly efficient at provoking the sort of plus-four level experience he's after.



Just, incidentally, cannabis is not psychedelic or even remotely comparable with acid and there's no reason to expect this to work with cannabis at all.

yes it is if you eat a huge dose of hash (1/4 oz-half oz). it most certainly can lead to visual and auditory halucinations. the only reason why people do not experience this when smoking is because it is difficult to smoke that much without passing out. the only time i ever smoked enough to halucinate warping walls was on speed when i put a quarter of skunk in one enormous spliff and everyone else around me fell asleep before it was an eighth of the way through and i polished it off (was a friends weed, bit harsh but speed feinds aren't known for their decent behaviour).

a hosuemate of mine used to eat quarters of high quality hash with his brother on occasion and once saw spiders made of white light coming out of the screen at the cinema. it does work, its just people very rarely take those doses
 
Sorry to hear about your hardships, but there's no reason to pass that impression onto other people. How much have you seen of this world to say that you or anyone else are 'fucked for life'?

Sure, sometimes life seems like an endless barrage of shit that keeps coming at you whatever you do. You know what? I would say most people experience this stuff at one point or another. Not knowing your exact disposition in life, I will assume you are not dying of an incurable disease, not struggling with a crippling handicap, and not subject to extreme poverty or warfare.

No offence, but your behavior is self defeating. A girl broke your heart and you're ready to give up on living? I got my heart broken more than I could count, and trust me, each time it felt like someone rammed one of those spiky medieval clubs through my chest. But think about it this way: If you're capable of feeling that much pain, it goes to reason that you can also experience the exact contrary. to a guy in your position this all must sounds incredibly over-simplistic, but it's still true. Even people who survive a suicide attempt, and are left with a huge scar to carry for the rest of their lives find a way back to the top.

I'm not going to try to convince you that life is worth living. You have to realize that yourself before anyone can help you. But please, for the love of god, don't try to infect other people into thinking like that. Sorry if this sounds a little bit aggressive.

sorry mate I know that post was abit crude when I was writing it, but its just I started using ketamine for therapeutic value and at the time it felt like it was doing me good but in actual fact it just did the opposite.
Im not in any 'real' bad situation like illness or severe poverty like a war torn country however im very poor from a council estate in England which I think is full of alot of cocks. I'll stop there before it gets too negative...

However that post about using lsd 2-3 times a week was quite inspiring as every time (5 times) ive done lsd I have been on Mirtazapine. I havent really felt anything other than highly stimulated (most being 4 drops) and feeling abit anxious.
Im off the mirtazapine now and hopefully I will be able to feel the real magic from LSD and hopefully feel better about myself.
 
Hey, I used LSD for the exact same reason you are hoping to about a year ago.

here's what I did and found from using it theraputically:

I used it 2 - 3 times a week by myself for about four months, I used to be very shy and insecure and doing it at first felt very uncomfortable.

Therapeutically is not 2-3 times a week, maybe once a month, that's just being a drug addict.

OP you said you have friends, have you tried telling them what you go through when you're out in public? Taking drugs is not going to help you .
 
Um. OP could consider mescaline as well; it seems to be particularly efficient at provoking the sort of plus-four level experience he's after.



Just, incidentally, cannabis is not psychedelic or even remotely comparable with acid and there's no reason to expect this to work with cannabis at all.

cannabis is psychedelic.
 
yes it is if you eat a huge dose of hash (1/4 oz-half oz). it most certainly can lead to visual and auditory halucinations. the only reason why people do not experience this when smoking is because it is difficult to smoke that much without passing out. the only time i ever smoked enough to halucinate warping walls was on speed when i put a quarter of skunk in one enormous spliff and everyone else around me fell asleep before it was an eighth of the way through and i polished it off (was a friends weed, bit harsh but speed feinds aren't known for their decent behaviour).

a hosuemate of mine used to eat quarters of high quality hash with his brother on occasion and once saw spiders made of white light coming out of the screen at the cinema. it does work, its just people very rarely take those doses

you don't have to take ridiculous doses of cannabis to experience introspective effects. i used to reach ego loss from one joint. cannabis can be very powerful when you combine it with meditation.
 
you don't have to take ridiculous doses of cannabis to experience introspective effects. i used to reach ego loss from one joint. cannabis can be very powerful when you combine it with meditation.

there is a difference bwteen introspection and full on visual halucinations, a big difference

so yes you do need big doses for a full on trip or at least a really low tolerance and a dose many many times of what is needed for a simple high

have you ever seen real huge visual distortions off cannabis alone? it takes a lot
 

just saying that although running killed my anxiety it destroyed my confidence thus making me more depressed because I lost so much weight an had the physique of a heroin addict even though I stopped taking drugs.
 
Therapeutically is not 2-3 times a week, maybe once a month, that's just being a drug addict.

OP you said you have friends, have you tried telling them what you go through when you're out in public? Taking drugs is not going to help you .

I used to have pretty serious panic attacks and anxiety so for me atleast in order to make it hit home and have a lasting profound effect on my state of mind and personality I had to do it so frequently. Once a month is too spaced out for a lasting change in my opinion, though I guess it depends on the person. All the same no need to be obtuse and call people 'drug addicts' on bluelight of all places, just no need for it.
 
sorry mate I know that post was abit crude when I was writing it, but its just I started using ketamine for therapeutic value and at the time it felt like it was doing me good but in actual fact it just did the opposite.
Im not in any 'real' bad situation like illness or severe poverty like a war torn country however im very poor from a council estate in England which I think is full of alot of cocks. I'll stop there before it gets too negative...

However that post about using lsd 2-3 times a week was quite inspiring as every time (5 times) ive done lsd I have been on Mirtazapine. I havent really felt anything other than highly stimulated (most being 4 drops) and feeling abit anxious.
Im off the mirtazapine now and hopefully I will be able to feel the real magic from LSD and hopefully feel better about myself.

Sorry for sounding kind of like a dick. That wasn't called for.
Anyway allow me to offer some friendly advice. It feels to me like you are using drugs as a way to escape dealing with your issues. It's very common for people in your situation to do that, and heck, even I do that to an extent. I'm not trying to patronize you.

Currently there's still a lack of sufficient clinical research on the topic of therapy and drug use, mainly because the American federal government refuses to fund such studies. I believe very much in incorporating specific drugs into the world of formal and informal therapy, but before you go ahead with experimenting on yourself, you have to understand how to go about with the process.

I am not trying to rain on your parade man, but life is not Ramen noodles. You can't get what you're hoping for instantly. If you are thinking you are going to take LSD and suddenly your life will turn around, your love will come running after you, and you will be surrounded by friends and well wishers for the rest of your life, you're in for a huge disappointment.

I'm going to go with you here and say you might be able to use LSD advantageously in your situation. The thing is, it's going to take a lot of very hard work on the side to make a difference.

I see therapeutic LSD consumption as embarking on a voyage, one which ends long after the trip has ended. Hopefully LSD is going to make you see life from a different angle, and you might even end up falling in love with this world again. That's a good step. Once you realize that you want to get more out of life, it's time for the ground work. If you don't have a job, get one (realistically might be impossible right now, but you got to keep trying). Save some money and rent a place. Start going out and meet new people. It's all up to you.

The key to good living is making small successes along the way. Self esteem is the reflection of how much you believe in yourself and your abilities.
This is about all the support I can give you. I really hope you make a difference in your life, bro.

BTW, please tell me you didn't stop anti-depressants treatment just to take some acid.
 
there is a difference bwteen introspection and full on visual halucinations, a big difference

so yes you do need big doses for a full on trip or at least a really low tolerance and a dose many many times of what is needed for a simple high

have you ever seen real huge visual distortions off cannabis alone? it takes a lot

yes i understand there is a difference. but my point was i didn't think full on visual hallucinations were necessary in order to use the drug for the purposes of personality change. even a small amount of cannabis, combined with a meditation, used to allow me to better analyze my mental processes. i was just relating this experience, because while it did seem to work for a time, my old neuroses did come back a couple of months after i stopped using cannabis.
 
ok well would it we alright if i just took acid just for fun? like would it make my social issue worse?
 
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