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emeraldjunkie

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Ive heard you can use meth for quiting H and it helps with the with draws is this true Ive heard it from a few different people.
 
Some people claim metah helps them, but I wouldn't count on that. Namely, if they mean meth=methamphetamine.

One of the worst long term withdrawal to me is loss of energy and unableness, unwillingness to do things because of that zero of energy. To this symptom meth could help. But usually opiate withdrawal involves nervousness and some such psychological symptoms. And it could be detrimental, to say the least, to the mental health of opiate addict to use methamphetamine to opiate withdrawals..


Now there icould be possibly some confusion regarding terms here...

Do you ask or mean, if methamphetamine do help? I expect that you ask that...

Sometimes some people call methadone meth too. And if people who you have in mind use words this way, SURE methadone helps... In fact, methadone annihilates withdrawals from heroin because it's opioid of similar strenght, and because of that methadone is used as a maintenance or substitution drug...


SO, of course methadone helps, if meth means methadone
 
Meth is arguably equally addictive, and undoubtedly dozens of times more toxic to your body and brain. Meth may help some people quit heroin addiction in the short term but the damage it does in the process is far worse. Meth also releases large amounts of dopamine like heroin. This means that meth will suppress your bodies long term recovery from heroin addiction and will continue what I consider to be the worst symptoms of withdrawal: the depression, paranoia, anxiety, and insomnia.
 
Replacing your heroin habit with a methamphetamine habit is kind of like quiting cigarettes to smoke crack.

Methamphetamine is far more destructive to your mind and body then heroin can ever be. It will drive you insane, rot your teeth and your body, turn you into a skeleton (a walking dead), turn you into an unpredictable and heartless asshole, and then kill you so fast you wouldn't even realize it. A methamphetamine addicts life expectancy is 5 years, believe it or not. Meth will take you, chew your up and spit you out bones (literally). Then you die a miserable death.

The psychological addiction to methamphetamine is even greater than heroin, which is why meth addicts are the hardest to treat and have the highest relapse rate among all kinds of drug addicts (ie. crack heads, heroin/morphine junkies, pharmaceutical opiate addicts, etc).

I'd stick to the heroin, it's much more merciful.
 
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i would not suggest!meth is worse for the body overall then h is,h is jus a better high so i hurd,thats why its so hard to quit an more addicting....i have hurd of ppl takin methidone tho to qt
 
kokaino said:
Replacing your heroin habit with a methamphetamine habit is kind of like quiting cigarettes to smoke crack.

Methamphetamine is far more destructive to your mind and body then heroin can ever be. It will drive you insane, rot your teeth and your body, turn you into a skeleton (a walking dead), turn you into an unpredictable and heartless asshole, and then kill you so fast you wouldn't even realize it. A methamphetamine addicts life expectancy is 5 years, believe it or not. Meth will take you, chew your up and spit you out bones (literally). Then you die a miserable death.

The psychological addiction to methamphetamine is even greater than heroin, which is why meth addicts are the hardest to treat and have the highest relapse rate among all kinds of drug addicts (ie. crack heads, heroin/morphine junkies, pharmaceutical opiate addicts, etc).

I'd stick to the heroin, it's much more merciful.
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The life expectancy of a meth addict is 5 years? Where exactly did you get that statistic? I would say that's misleading at best, considering different people experience varying degrees of addiction.

What is the life expectancy of a heroin addict?

But anyway it sounds like a pretty dumb idea to use meth during heroin withdrawal. It might make you feel a little better at first, but the inevitable crash added to the heroin withdrawal sounds like a fucking nightmare to me.
 
^Good point.

Please let us know if you mean methadone or methamphetamine when you use the term "meth".

I personally think using methamphetamine to kick heroin is a horrible idea. Methamphetamine is much more damaging to your brain and body than heroin/other opiates are.
 
kokaino said:
Replacing your heroin habit with a methamphetamine habit is kind of like quiting cigarettes to smoke crack. l.
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haaaaa....that made me lol.

I have heard stims will help with the PAWS but as for the actual WD i wouldnt touch them with a 10 foot pole. My BP gets high enough from the WD, i think if i did a strong stim like that i would have an stroke.
 
rhymetoker said:
The life expectancy of a meth addict is 5 years? Where exactly did you get that statistic? I would say that's misleading at best, considering different people experience varying degrees of addiction.

What is the life expectancy of a heroin addict?

But anyway it sounds like a pretty dumb idea to use meth during heroin withdrawal. It might make you feel a little better at first, but the inevitable crash added to the heroin withdrawal sounds like a fucking nightmare to me.
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I got that statistic here and here. The second link there is the life or meth website, it's very credible and has everything you need to know about methamphetamine.

It also says this:

A 1999 study of the methamphetamine problem reports, methamphetamine abusers were characterized as low socio economic status, less educated, relatively young white males. Today the majority of methamphetamine abusers still tend to fit that profile.

Heroin addicts tend to live longer, I know heroin addicts that were addicts (needle users) for a good 15-20 years. My uncle died in 2004 after 22 years of being an injecting heroin addict.

I think meth addicts can live longer than 5 years, but I think 10 years is the max for them. No sleep and no food does a lot of damage to the body and that's besides what the drug does to your heart and brain. It's neurotoxic and it's just plain dirty and grimey. The meth subculture is also disgusting and full of nightmarish shit.
 
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^Indeed.

I know I already said it but opiate withdrawal feels a lot like being spun from taking too much stimulants and then not eating anything/drinking anything for two days. When I'm in WDs, I want drugs that slow me down and relax me, not drugs that speed me up and make me anxious.

Of course, if amphetamines don't make you anxious, then it may indeed work. I'm wondering if there is any research into the topic.
 
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