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methamphetamine - What else is in it?

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Hi, guys.... just a question regarding what ice is being cut with.

My mate is a bit concerned because recently he's been getting some ice that has a burnt rubber taste to it, and says he starts to get a heavy chest after smoking it. It still gets him tweaked as, but it got me thinking - what are they using and how safe are some of these compounds? I mean ffs the drug is bad enough without adding even worse shit for you!

Normally its been the powder that is the cut and the rocks that are good, but now even rocks can be all "jump" or mixed with it. I know because I've seen 100% pure shit before back during Sydney Olympics - and this aint like it.

The stuff he is getting now sometimes looks wet, sometimes has a red/brown tinge to it, sometimes the rocks are all jump and the powder is the good shit, sometimes it smokes at a lower temp, sometime at a high temp, sometimes it 'cracks' when you melt it, sometimes it spits bit around the pipe, sometimes it runs away from the flame like a mofo. Sometimes the effect is just straight 'energy' - sometimes the effect is 'cracked out'

I thought that ice is ice and that ones from different 'distributors' should be all the same, at least in the way it affects a person... shouldn't they?

Anyway, if anyone out there has an idea as to what it could be I would like to know so I can help him make an informed choice on what he is putting into his body.

Thanks in Advance
 
You could do an acetone extraction on it to purify it. Make sure you use anhydrous acetone that is 99.9% pure. It's also a good idea to bake up some MgSO4 and use that to dry the acetone beforehand.
 
i agree with phenethylamine420 that no one can really tell you. but we can say that msm is a VERY common cut and that (lol to 420s name) phenylethylamine hcl is also a common cutting agent (although much less so than MSM) because of its similar MP/BP to that of methamphetamine. but really all of this is speculation without proper anaylisis of the material in question.
although i will say if phenylethylamine was used it could explain the burning plastic smell/taste as it is much more pungent than meth in vapour form.

also i must emphasize Mr Blondes idea of methanol extraction would be paticularly appropriate if the material is discoloured as you mentioned.
although you must accept that you are going to incurr some loss of material in this process.
but as you said who wants to smoke those impurities anyway??
ive always been one for quality over quantity. too bad the peddlers out there dont always see it this way.
 
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^ I said acetone rather then methanol as acetone seems to be a lot easier to obtain in pure form (though methanol can be found if you know where to look) and also methamphetamine HCl is soluble in methanol whereas it is insoluble in acetone.
 
MSM is one of the better known cuts. One of the more alarming 'cuts' (possibly not a desired product) is that of solvents used in the synthesis and even sometimes solvents not used in the synthesis. Xylene/Toluene are 2 of the more common aromatic hydrocarbons that are used in the synthesis of clandestine methamphetamine and not washed properly from the end product in order to add weight. A lot of the backyard bikie 'base'/speed is this crap. Keep in mind Aromatic Hydrocarbons such as Toluene are known neurotoxins and carcinogens.

There is a whole range of substances used to cut methampetamine. Some are relitively benign - some are toxic. From a health perspective you are probably better off seeking out higher purity methamphetamine crystals (Ice) than buying any speed or otherwise impure substances - that is assuming you can keep yourself from the allure of the pipe.
 
Sameria said:
you are probably better off seeking out higher purity methamphetamine crystals (Ice) than buying any speed or otherwise impure substances - that is assuming you can keep yourself from the allure of the pipe.
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^^ so true... I never take it back unless its been jumped on hard. Thanks for the .nfo guys. On a side note, I see that most Sydney's (Australia's??) stuff is only 30% pure at the best of times... that blew me away. Now I know why old skool shit when the 5T and triads ran it and was WAYYYYY better than even this shit now. :X
 
^^ Thats exactly what its like in WA atm and Im pretty sure nation wide. Ive been pickin up some killer shit latly but it wasnt very long ago its was very much a big hit n miss...
 
@GurnEr JoshE @ pisspotnrock sounds like you have MDAT

6,7-Methylenedioxy-2-aminotetralin (MDAT) is a drug developed in the 1990s by a team at Purdue University led by David E. Nichols. It appears to act as a serotonin releasing agent based on rodent drug discrimination assays comparing it to MDMA, in which it fully substitutes for, and additionally lacks any kind of serotonergic neurotoxicity. Hence, MDAT is a non-neurotoxic, putative entactogen in humans.

and has a very distinctive appearance - yellow translucent crystals between 1/16th and 1/4th of an inch along their largest dimension.
 
^^^ haven't personally tried just came across this in some of my research on other chems..... what you have sounds like this however without lab testing no one can really know.

I'll try and find out what it's effects are supposed to be.....I'm guessing as it's a crystal it should melt and vaporise.
 
I thought MDAT crystals were brownish in color? I just did some research on MDAT and it seems most people take it by mixing it with drinks or crushing it up and doing lines.

Didn't find one report where the user smoked it :\
 
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