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Misc insufflation and toxic shock syndrome

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noreason

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i was wonding if anyone had any insight on this, as it comes up on the web lot. how possible is this from insufflation? i dont have much insight but it seems like something sites would say to scare people but is extremely rare. anyway i was just wondering.

by the way i am new here. hi! :D
 
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it could happen from using a rolled up bank note (in the US the dollar) to snort w/e it is you're snorting as they are very unsanitary , your hands could be dirty or have shit on them or it could be bacteria on your drugs, or the surface you're putting it on it unsanitary or any of those possibilities..

Welcome To Bluelight BTW!!
good first thread (if it is your first) usually people sign up, ask for a pill id, and the thread gets closed and you never hear from that person again lol..
stick around here in OD, it's a great place (only place on BL i go to (or come to) w/e lol.. You get to know people and you learn a lot. Even if you know a lot already, like i *thought* i did when i first came here, i literally doubled my drug knowledge from all the info here. Deffinately a good harm reduction site as well because of all the good info on here.


EDIT: after reading amapolas post i just want to clarify that the things i listed are just way germs/bacteria can get into your nose... nothing to do with trying to explain anything about TSS. just about how unsanitary this practice can be, although i do it all the time.
 
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I haven't been able to find anything linking toxic shock to drug use, and the mechanism causing the onset of TSS still seems to be unknown. Do you have a source for where you said "sites use it to scare people away"?

Super absorbent tampons are the biggest risk factor, but any surgery which requires packing is susceptible. With respect to nasal surgery there have been several documented cases of TSS in which packing was not used as well. The bacteria which cause TSS are known to reside in the mucous of the nose and throat yet why this syndrome occurs is not fully known. As drug users are more likely to have open sores, infected wounds, and possibly inactive fillers acting similar to cloth packing in their nasal passage, it is possible that they are more likely to suffer from toxic shock. I still think it is fairly rare occurrence and is impossible to tell unless someone can find a study which has been conducted on it.
 
HdoubleODeezy said:
it could happen from using a rolled up bank note (in the US the dollar) to snort w/e it is you're snorting as they are very unsanitary , your hands could be dirty or have shit on them or it could be bacteria on your drugs, or the surface you're putting it on it unsanitary or any of those possibilities..
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i figured it would be from stuff like that. have you ever heard of an instance of it happening? (from people on this board or wherever)?

HdoubleODeezy said:
Welcome To Bluelight BTW!!
good first thread (if it is your first) usually people sign up, ask for a pill id, and the thread gets closed and you never hear from that person again lol..
stick around here in OD, it's a great place (only place on BL i go to (or come to) w/e lol.. You get to know people and you learn a lot. Even if you know a lot already, like i *thought* i did when i first came here, i literally doubled my drug knowledge from all the info here. Deffinately a good harm reduction site as well because of all the good info on here.
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thank you for welcoming me :)
i love this board and this my first thread. before i was a member i would sit on this board and read threads for hours. im glad to finally be a member.
 
amapola said:
I haven't been able to find anything linking toxic shock to drug use, and the mechanism causing the onset of TSS still seems to be unknown. Do you have a source for where you said "sites use it to scare people away"?

Super absorbent tampons are the biggest risk factor, but any surgery which requires packing is susceptible. With respect to nasal surgery there have been several documented cases of TSS in which packing was not used as well. The bacteria which cause TSS are known to reside in the mucous of the nose and throat yet why this syndrome occurs is not fully known. As drug users are more likely to have open sores, infected wounds, and possibly inactive fillers acting similar to cloth packing in their nasal passage, it is possible that they are more likely to suffer from toxic shock. I still think it is fairly rare occurrence and is impossible to tell unless someone can find a study which has been conducted on it.
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if you google 'snorting adderall' tons of stuff comes up from answer sites such as

sources:

http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/3703.html

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091013152835AAhb2UD

etc
 
noreason said:
i figured it would be from stuff like that. have you ever heard of an instance of it happening? (from people on this board or wherever)?



thank you for welcoming me :)
i love this board and this my first thread. before i was a member i would sit on this board and read threads for hours. im glad to finally be a member.
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No i have never heard of a case of it happening..


And about the second part..yeah i was a lurker for a while too before i finally forced myself to sign up, and once i did that my anxiety kept me from posting much but it was a kinda inviting environment in some threads (there used to be socials AKA just talk about whatever you want) and posting in those is what got me comfortable enough to post anywhere and even apply to be a Mod a few times and everyone on here pretty much knows me or at least has seen at least 1 of my posts so im not *shy* anymore lol.

Back on topic: im sorry i cant be of more help.
 
if you google 'snorting adderall' tons of stuff comes up from answer sites such as

sources:
http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/3703.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3152835AAhb2UD
etc
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Those aren't exactly the most reliable sources and I don't think they are referring to toxic shock syndrome as it is listed with other side effects of the active ingredient. As for the rolled up banknote although this may have some hardy bacteria still on it from a previous handler, TSS seems to be caused by bacteria already in your body as it occurs during use of sterile tampons or surgical supplies.
 
HdoubleODeezy said:
No i have never heard of a case of it happening..


And about the second part..yeah i was a lurker for a while too before i finally forced myself to sign up, and once i did that my anxiety kept me from posting much but it was a kinda inviting environment in some threads (there used to be socials AKA just talk about whatever you want) and posting in those is what got me comfortable enough to post anywhere and even apply to be a Mod a few times and everyone on here pretty much knows me or at least has seen at least 1 of my posts so im not *shy* anymore lol.
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it does seem to be quite a great community, with some insanely knowledgeable people. im very interested in drugs (all drugs from advil to heroine), and ive learned so much just from lurking this board, im pretty excited to now be posting.
 
HdoubleODeezy said:
No i have never heard of a case of it happening..


And about the second part..yeah i was a lurker for a while too before i finally forced myself to sign up, and once i did that my anxiety kept me from posting much but it was a kinda inviting environment in some threads (there used to be socials AKA just talk about whatever you want) and posting in those is what got me comfortable enough to post anywhere and even apply to be a Mod a few times and everyone on here pretty much knows me or at least has seen at least 1 of my posts so im not *shy* anymore lol.

Back on topic: im sorry i cant be of more help.
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RIP OD Social, you are truly missed.
 
I don't think anybody in this thread has read what Toxic Shock Syndrome is :\

It's caused by naturally occurring bacteria on your own body which for reasons unknown infects open wounds or muscous membranes (or both), especially when contained by fabric for extended periods of time (i.e. tampons and surgical packing).
 
Hey man, welcome to Bluelight ! I hope you stick around and utilize the vast wealth of knowledge we have to offer. Stick around and we may even let you in on the secret handshake. 8o

Anyways, in regards to toxic shock syndrome, I could not find really much of anything specifying that it is related to drug use. I suppose it could be possible, but toxic shock syndrome in itself is a very rare happening..

Staphylococcal toxic shock syndrome is rare and the number of reported cases has declined significantly since the 1980s. Patrick Schlievert, who published a study on it in 2004, determined incidence at 3 to 4 out of 100,000 tampon-using females per year; the information supplied by manufacturers of sanitary products such as Tampax and Stayfree puts it at 1 to 17 of every 100,000 menstruating females per year. The CDC has stopped tracking TSS. However, there was a rise in reported cases in the early 2000s: eight deaths from the syndrome in California in 2002 after three successive years of four deaths per year, and Schlievert's study found cases in part of Minnesota more than tripled from 2000 to 2003.
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With proper treatment, patients usually recover in two to three weeks. The condition can, however, be fatal within hours.

Antibiotic treatment should cover both S. pyogenes and S. aureus. This may include a combination of cephalosporins, penicillins or vancomycin. The addition of clindamycin or gentamicin reduces toxin production and mortality.
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amapola said:
I don't think anybody in this thread has read what Toxic Shock Syndrome is :\

It's caused by naturally occurring bacteria on your own body which for reasons unknown infects open wounds or muscous membranes (or both), especially when contained by fabric for extended periods of time (i.e. tampons and surgical packing).
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you are right, my bad. i was thinking of septic shock ;/



my apologies.


shit and im even off on septic shock, i am just posting misinformation all over this thread. terrible, just plain terrible.
 
I just want to point out that of the two links you provided, the yahoo answers one is a copy of the other site (ofc yahoo answers talks shit anyway..) so therefore, it is only "GoAskAlice"'s opinion that it results in toxic shock.

Toxic shock syndrome is related to leaving a tampon in too long, and septic shock, I would assume, requires bacteria to get into the blood stream. The mucous membranes of the nose are there as a protective layer against infection. Of course they allow drugs to absorb across.

The list of side effects on your links(although some are probably scare tactics) are related to the Adderall rather than the insufflation, I would think.

When researching anything, appraise your source; think about if it is reliable source of info. Hint: Yahoo Answers is not!

Try searching on this site for other threads. I couldn't find an insufflation megathread but perhaps I'm searching wrong.
 
I'm sort of curious to see what replies come from this..as far as I knew, my TSS knowledge came from the side of my tampon box...from a little googling, I can't really find much that ISN'T tampon related. Or, the packing of wounds. But, this is extremely rare even in these situations, so I'm thinking if there was any way it COULD happen from snorting, it's probably even rarer.
 
Amapola and others are correct, its next to impossible to experience classic toxic shock syndrome from insufflation alone. It is caused by a very specific bacterium and needs special conditions to develop. As others have mentioned, it has been associated with tampons but also with nasal and wound packing associated with surgery.

I'd be much more worried about contracting bacterial or fungal sinus infections. Certain users are at an even greater risk for opportunistic infections thanks to the immunosuppresive effects of cuts (levamisole in cocaine comes to mind.)
 
TSS & Insufflation

Noreason, are you thinking of "cotton fever," like what can happen with IV drug use? I have read that fever, chills, body aches etc that sometimes happen after IVing drugs was thought to be related to TSS... because there's an endotoxin on cotton that can get in your bloodstream... but I think the latest thinking on cotton fever is that it's not caused by cotton filters at all.
And I haven't heard of a specific systemic infection caused by insufflation. I'm not an expert in this area though.
 
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