not to preach and I aint a poster boy but I'm 8 days out from my last relapse. Got benzo scripts filled. My psych said will give it a month or two for my receptors to heal then taper to atleast a lower dose.
Naloxone does reverse the effects of methadone but may required repeated administration due to the length of action of methadone - nowt personal just the correct info - be bad news if someone thought "oh fuck it there's nowt we can do" & then just scarpered
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
i would say.
i know it's not something you take lightly, ructs asked for advice and i was telling her my side of the story so to speak. i know everyone is different, that's why i said be so careful.
sorry you lost ppl on meth, not nice at all, didn't mean to offend like
btw, i don't abuse my meth & don't use it recreationally, this was a one off experiment like i said, i'd never tried it before. I was having mad cravings, so upped my meth to see if it would reduce the cravings, most - well just about all of us get them from time to time if we are trying to stop using, so just thought it would help, I didn't take it just to get stoned. because i am on a fairly low dose, i've been told that higher doses of meth can reduce cravings.
i have a small stock of meth built up which my drug worker knows about, as she knows i have a 'thing' about having a stash of meth, she says i am like a squirrelit just makes me feel safer knowing its there for some reason, in case i need a bit more than my usual dose if I get sick or the cravings get too much. She would prefer me to take a bit more meth than risk relapsing and scoring some dodgy gear & fucking my health up. so thought it would be better to up my meth for that one day rather than put myself at risk of scoring dodgy adulterated bash. Surley i'm not the only one to do so?
I just thought I was helping a mate out by sharing my experience on how to cope with cravings, as I know how horrible and shitty they can be, but obv I was wrong to post & maybe i could have worded it better, so many apologies.
like you i was just sharing personal experience . Be carefull what you tell your drug worker cos they will sometimes hold your honesty against you. Maybe not straight away but later on down the line.
Thank you so much for your kind, insightful words and considerate advice ructions my dear
The meth came in quite handy for the day, I could have scored but wanted to try the meth just to see if it might counter any cravings that might arise but like you said - I've no habit at all these days and my cravings are minimal regardless - however I was introduced to my new contact tonight at last - a latvian chap - so I expect my habit may have quite a likely chance of steadily rising. Me and an (I hesitate to use the word friend as he's ripped so many of me and my crew off so many times during the drought so) acquaintance split a bag and I can confirm it is indeed pre-drought gear at pre-drought prices (well, 25 but thats expected to fall soon enough). He knocked at my door, eyes pinned to bits and blatantly lapsing into nods offering to pay for a bag and split it with me in exchange for my company as he moved out of Dublin during the drought, came up for the day and had been wandering around on his own all afternoon and evening. Generally I'd tend to avoid the chap but how in sweet name of jesus could I turn my nose at such an opportunity.
So my Monday turned out rather swell. It began utterly dire as I got my measly 188 at 1pm, had to fork out 120 that I owed for 3 @40 quid a pop then had to hand up the other 68 for rent. The main that I owed the cash to had me under the impression that I was getting more on lay as soon as I payed off what was on my tab for last week, but when I handed the cash over I could see him sizing me up, then he says
He: ...humm now eh, lets see...yeah now endless you're about 6ft wouldnt you be?
I: can neither confirm nor deny buddy, why so and wheres the gear?
He: ...<inaudible mumbling>...see now thats the thing. I have 9 wrapped up in a bag in that drainpipe over there <points> but I've no way of getting at it without a ladder pal
I: what the? are you fucking serious man?!how in the name of fuck did you manage to get it there in the first place?
He: ...<inaudible mumbling>...house last night, and I climbed up and put me foot on <inaudible mumble> to give meself a bit of height so I could stash it somewhere literally out of reach, and as soon as I placed it the thing broke and back in through window I fell. Now it was just as well I managed to place it and not drop it because if that happened then I'd be rightly fucked. The thing is he doesnt know I stashed it there - and I've already used three excuses to get inside the house again to try reach out the window to get it, each fuckin time resulting in me getting drenched in freezing cold drain water and having to go back to me own flat and change me t-shirt - so he see's me coming back to his house a 2nd and 3rd time wanting to use his toilet, each time with a fresh set of clothes on - and he's already paranoid out of his head already so theres no way I can get back in there until this evening. Thats if he doesnt pass out as he's been up for 4 nights caning mephedrone and necking cider.
I: Quite the pickle bud.
He: Fuckin too right it is pal...
I: But what the fuck are we going to do?!
He: When I was leaving the last time he said he hadnt slept in over 4 days and he had just taken three zimmovane to knock himself out - so if we can find a ladder somewhere we'll be able to hop up onto the wall, throw it over and climb up the back of the gaff and reach the stash...
I: Guess that means I wont be getting that bag off you then...
Next thing he starts fucking walking away towards the other end of the lane...
He: I think I saw a ladder down here the other night but I was a bit locked now I must say so I'm not exactly certain on where it is, but I know I definitely did see one...sure even a pole would do us...sure you're not in any hurry anyway are yeh?
After about 15mins of walking around looking for this non-existent fucking ladder to climb up the back of yer mans gaff to get the rest of the 8th, he finally says fuck it - I'll go and buy a half 8th, call you back in an hour and scuttles off. Fuck sake.
Usual shite ensued then - the hour goes by, then the second. So I call, no answer. Third hour passes, and I call five times and send two texts to him - no response. Then the most unlikely savior comes and saves the day, and not only introduces me to a new contact selling pre-drought at pre-drought prices, but gives me another 3 numbers of heads around the area that are all back on now and all charging pre-drought prices for pre-drought product - all of course along with half a bag on the house to top it off. Fucking deserved it after the trauma of the ladder incident.
I'm broke now until next monday - but fuck it, I'll go the week without scoring because when next monday rolls forth I'll have pre-drought coming out my fucking ears man.
Fair fucks to you if you got through all the above, its likely a bit all over the place but hopefully you got the general gist of it.
Ructions, I hope your day has been a good one and I'll be in touch soon so expect a very merry message coming your way quicksmart and with godspeed. Likewise for everyone else, I hope your week has begun well and if you're still in the game that you're scoring ok and its nice product. Be well my friends, much peace to you people...
Catching up on threads.
@ basket- i concure with others, the dose you took was dangerous, but atleast it kept you nodding for a few days I assume. When I was in SF @ the clinic someone sold the juice he spit out- 40 mg. Dude didn't have a habit and died of an overdose. Good news is methadone is self tappering. Your going through a romantic crississ and I believe that provided some relief. Great NIN song: one of the great heroin songs. a he withdrawl should be minimimal. you have a habit my best results was getting on methadone, doing 60 mg (won't hold you all day), repeat 2nd day, and then jump off 3rd-5th. Same for subs- short coarse probably best.
@runctions: I enjoyed your song immensly, captured the rolercoaster that is love.
@ the fellow seppo or were ever u from. Like pointed out meth is Brit slang for methadone. "Meth babies" started out as a sensationalist extention of the crack baby crisis in the headlines in the 80s. To capatalize on the hysteria (coke isn't good for the fetus), reporters rushed to hospitals. When they found that the babbies weren't grotesque and deformed, they went into the birth defect ward and took pictures of premies and children without drug exposure that had birth defect. It was sensationalism, sold papers, and perpetuated propaganda. The meth craze replaced this- their are complications but studies have been done that you get better outcomes and healthy babies if you leave the infant with the mother rather than taking them away to social services.
@ all craving, (especially kat), consider 12 steps, it helps my craving, I know non treated cravings well- atleast you got the valium Rx.
@ everyone: Janes Addiction: 3 days- heroin song but words are cryptic, one of my all time faves.
Three Days
I Would for you @ Hamerstein ballroom
James "Mountain Song"
Perry farrel: "The Gift"
The last is the most graffic heroin movie I know. A pseudo documentary set in LA. 7 Parts.
I would probably wait until you get right, with descent gear- this movie can make you jones- very grafick (probably real) IV drug use and other aspects of the life- but the movie is briliant- I assure you. Probably saved for a good nod.
This drought like all droughts will come to an end, I'm sure of it- gear might be more expensive but quality will improve. Thats my analysis. Question is when- I'd predict this summer or next at the latest- Egypt is a Poppy producing country, it might be sourced differently or old afgan might come back but it will.
Having said that staying clean is a good life but I share the opinons of others that some of us need it to be functional.
No worries
She knows when i got ill the other week, i took a bit more meth, don't know about anyone else, but when I get ill (like a cold/flu for example) I need to take more meth, as it doesn't seem to hold me as much. this was the same when i was on gear, i had to take more gear when i was ill. Maybe that's just me IDK? After i got better i got back down to me usual dose.
Thanks for the advice. K is harder to come by in my circles. Used to be as easy as traveling across the border to mexico (30-60) minutes and going to an animal pharmacy- they were selling shitloads OTC. Robitussin is a cruder alternative- but the cure iMHO is worst than the disease. This is good to know if I come across any K. How are you doing?
