Non-Biased Pro-Cannabis Articles

[Mr_Fluffykins]

There is this girl i know, and she is 17, and her parents believe all the illogical scare tactics, shes been getting in shit a lot lately, and her parents think its just as bad as crack, and that everything they have read makes it look really bad.

So the goal is to find articles, that aren't on cannabis sites, with cannabis in their name, or cannabis leaves everywhere, which take away from the authenticity of the article and site, and leave you knowing there is a definite bias. This is our chance to change the minds of people, and save a girl from unfair and unjust parenting caused by misinformation.

SOOOO, you lazy stoners help, and yerg, purple cloud, and chainmasta, if this is a bad thread, bend me over and shove that mod stick firmly up my anus.
that is all.

ps she is a bluelighter, not aloud to use a computer, because she came home smelling like cannabis after a heavy vape session, at Toronto's own vapor central, so have some compassion for a fellow bluelighter,

 

[Sega420]

spike them with acid and dress like jesus while telling them the truth about ganja. problem solved.

 

[sekio]

Anything that's pro-cannabis is going to be biased - towards cannabis... and it's hard to talk about it without mentioning the name of the damn plant.

Try watching The Union? That's always good.

 

[purple_cloud]

, at Toronto's own vapor central

I have been wanting to go there for so long, since I'm only a couple hours away...it's obnoxious to cross the border though.

It's rather difficult to explain to parents very set in their ways about the positives of marijuana use. Plus, if this girl is only 17, she's still a minor, and if living in their house should respect their wishes...or find a way to not get caught. Finding "pro-cannabis" articles that "aren't biased" is an oxymoron pretty much...anything pro-cannabis is biased in that it in pro cannabis. So, I don't think there's much we can do for you...maybe try searching around google, or if you're part of a university/etc check their psych and pharmacology peer-reviewed resources. I'm going to leave this thread open for now, and see what chainer and yerg think.

And, as stressed in plenty of threads here at CD...marijuana has some cons as well as pros, so in some ways parents wanting their minor-aged child to not be using it, since its a psychoactive substance, drug, etc...is relatively reasonable, and I severely doubt that even if you did find these sources, they'd care enough to even bother reading them.

 

[Mr_Fluffykins]

yeah, i am more talking about the sites they are present on, rather then reading an article on "cannabis culture" an article from fox news

such as this http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,196678,00.html

she is suposed to be stoping the use of cannabis till the end of the school year, but she asked me for help compiling articles, and i want to do my best, everybody should do this to everyone, show them positive articles about marijuana, there are people who will change their mind

and yeah the vapour lounge is awesome, crossing the border is not, ive been 21 for a few months i still havent gone to the states to pick up some of their rare microbrews and other beers we can't get here, like sierra nevada, blue moon, and rolling rock to name a few

i like about 5 hours away from toronto, but if you ever decide to make it over the border, it would be cool to go to the vapor lounge, smoke a few jays, hit a bong, and vape it the fuck up

thanks for keeping this open for now.

edit: http://listverse.com/2009/01/26/top-10-common-myths-about-cannabis/
an article like this loses all its credibility by having thoose funny pictures, someone who is antimarijuana, reads it and sees the funny pictures and can't take it seriously
thats sorta what i mean by non bias

 

[purple_cloud]

and yeah the vapour lounge is awesome, crossing the border is not, ive been 21 for a few months i still havent gone to the states to pick up some of their rare microbrews and other beers we can't get here, like sierra nevada, blue moon, and rolling rock to name a few

Blue Moon is Canadian! I'm so shocked you guys don't have that! It's definitely one of my favorite beers that just about everywhere has! And, Rolling Rock is the bottom of the barrel shit that you get if you decide to host an open bar with bottom-shelf booze...definitely not worth venturing into the US for. Plus, I always thought Canada had awesome beer --- Molson & Labatt? Buffalo swears by them, and I'm sure culture-wise Buffalo isn't too different from Fort Erie (or, linguistically anyway...but now I'm getting way off topic). I'm about 15 mins from Niagara Falls so I'd cross the border that way, they just seem to enjoy searching my car whenever I try to get back into the US...they found a dildo from that sweet porn shop in Toronto last time, that guard slammed the trunk closed pretty quick, hehe.


But, back on topic...seiko is absolutely right, The Union is currently on Netflix instant streaming, as well as more potumentaries than I thought possible --- almost too many. Asking her to stop for the remainder of the school year isn't unreasonable, since she's probably still in high school. Plus, college has better drugs and no supervision, that's the time to party it up I doubt even if you found the best articles out there showing the positives of marijuana, they would change their minds. There are still negatives out there, and some of them are difficult to counter argue...for example (from my own head, not a source, clearly) they say pot makes people lazy. Now, I personally like to smoke, clean my apartment, before I graduated do reading and assignments, all sorts of things. However, for every person like me, I know a handful who sit around, play video games, and fail out of school. Once she turns 18 and she's an adult (I'm guessing this is how it works in Canada? I know there's some odd 19 business in Ontario) her parents won't have as much say in her decisions...until then, I think it's going to be difficult to persuade them that she should be allowed to smoke. I also don't know if you Canadians are as obsessed with drug testing as the US is, but looking for a job, even with a Masters degree, it seems everyone wants my hair or me to pee in a cup, and I don't use any other drugs on a regular basis --- pot alone is enough to fuck me over from passing one of those. That's another argument I see very little way to counter, because the drug testing industry doesn't seem like it's gonna give up anytime soon.

 

[Mr_Fluffykins]

Blue Moon is Canadian! I'm so shocked you guys don't have that! It's definitely one of my favorite beers that just about everywhere has! And, Rolling Rock is the bottom of the barrel shit that you get if you decide to host an open bar with bottom-shelf booze...definitely not worth venturing into the US for. Plus, I always thought Canada had awesome beer --- Molson & Labatt? Buffalo swears by them, and I'm sure culture-wise Buffalo isn't too different from Fort Erie (or, linguistically anyway...but now I'm getting way off topic). I'm about 15 mins from Niagara Falls so I'd cross the border that way, they just seem to enjoy searching my car whenever I try to get back into the US...they found a dildo from that sweet porn shop in Toronto last time, that guard slammed the trunk closed pretty quick, hehe.

my car has had to many crumbs in it from smoking, and shit so theyd definately search my car even if i did not have any,
and i did not known bluemoon was canadian, that makes it even more surprising that i cannot get it
and molson and labbat LOL, thats like saying i thought america had good beers, budweiser and coors, i don't like the generic big monopolgy company beers, coors light is the top selling beer in canada, which is really gay,
i personally like belgiium trappist beers like chimay, and shit, and creemore springs from onatrio,
and the whole dildo thing is a good idea

But, back on topic...seiko is absolutely right, The Union is currently on Netflix instant streaming, as well as more potumentaries than I thought possible --- almost too many. Asking her to stop for the remainder of the school year isn't unreasonable, since she's probably still in high school. Plus, college has better drugs and no supervision, that's the time to party it up I doubt even if you found the best articles out there showing the positives of marijuana, they would change their minds. There are still negatives out there, and some of them are difficult to counter argue...for example (from my own head, not a source, clearly) they say pot makes people lazy. Now, I personally like to smoke, clean my apartment, before I graduated do reading and assignments, all sorts of things. However, for every person like me, I know a handful who sit around, play video games, and fail out of school. Once she turns 18 and she's an adult (I'm guessing this is how it works in Canada? I know there's some odd 19 business in Ontario) her parents won't have as much say in her decisions...until then, I think it's going to be difficult to persuade them that she should be allowed to smoke. I also don't know if you Canadians are as obsessed with drug testing as the US is, but looking for a job, even with a Masters degree, it seems everyone wants my hair or me to pee in a cup, and I don't use any other drugs on a regular basis --- pot alone is enough to fuck me over from passing one of those. That's another argument I see very little way to counter, because the drug testing industry doesn't seem like it's gonna give up anytime soon.

and i didn't think about the union, if she can get her parents to sit the union it can prolly change their mind, when you are 18 you are not under your parents supervision, but you have to be 19 to buy alcohol, and no, they can't drug test you in canada, unless your a cop, or driving heavy machinery, and since your working on your masters, i don't assume your doing either, so good luck, and you should come to canada, its colder, prolly not that much from where you are, but its a beautiful awesome amazing country we just gotta watch out cuz we have a conservative cunt prime minister,

all this information is more to ease her parents mind and not think shes some cracked out druggie, weve both agreed not to smoke till shes done school, even though she failed me yesturday,

 

[purple_cloud]

and molson and labbat LOL, thats like saying i thought america had good beers, budweiser and coors, i don't like the generic big monopolgy company beers, coors light is the top selling beer in canada, which is really gay,
i personally like belgiium trappist beers like chimay, and shit, and creemore springs from onatrio,
and the whole dildo thing is a good idea


and i didn't think about the union, if she can get her parents to sit the union it can prolly change their mind, when you are 18 you are not under your parents supervision, but you have to be 19 to buy alcohol, and no, they can't drug test you in canada, unless your a cop, or driving heavy machinery, and since your working on your masters, i don't assume your doing either, so good luck, and you should come to canada, its colder, prolly not that much from where you are, but its a beautiful awesome amazing country we just gotta watch out cuz we have a conservative cunt prime minister,

all this information is more to ease her parents mind and not think shes some cracked out druggie, weve both agreed not to smoke till shes done school, even though she failed me yesturday,

Hmm, I didn't quite say they were good beers, or moreso I meant they were good cheap beers...I also like the pricier Belgian beers but sometimes, if it's a party, or drunkenness is trying to happen cheaply, Labatt and Molson are good choices. That Natural Ice, Keystone, etc crap is my idea of really gross cheap beer.

And, in the US, they want to drug test me for data entry, customer service, EVERYTHING. At the temp agency I'm trying to go through, they told me I'll have to submit to an alcohol test as well even...so, in the US, it doesn't have anything to do with the type of job at this point. I actually completed my Masters, and seriously, every entry-level position I've seen requires a drug test. It's starting to get a little out of hand here...I can type 100+ wpm but apparently if I smoke pot in my free time, that doesn't matter to them. It's beyond annoying.

I guess that makes sense to get her parents to be more okay with not thinking she's doing "harder" drugs just because she's using pot, especially since their generation grew up with the "gateway drug" argument I'm sure. And, if she smoked yesterday...it's not really on you, but her. If she gets caught by her parents again, I'm sure she'll be even more in the dog house than she already is. I doubt they will sit through The Union, I can barely sit through a potumentary, but in all reality I'm sure there are much more sources out there to this day talking about how evil pot is, moreso than how good it is. Just from googling, it seems the pro articles are mostly about medicinal use and things like that...and since her argument would be for recreational use, I'm sure that's going to be difficult to find. How do her parents feel about alcohol? Alcohol is much worse for you, and unlike pot can actually kill you...so maybe some sources showing that marijuana is a lesser evil than alcohol might be more plausible to find, and work better than just trying to say "pot isn't as bad as crack!" since it's comparing it to something that's legal and widely accepted.

 

[Mr_Fluffykins]

her parents aint drinkers, unfortunately because that would make things more simpler, but they were comparing it to crack, and saying that smoking causes lung cancer, and the tashkin study disprove it, and there's also the article about that ex surgeon general who came out in support of legalizing, i just forget her name ill be able to find it on CC

they are gonna book an appointment with her doctor, cuz her parents want to speak with her doctor about it, and her doctor has previously said , your parents may not like it but there's nothing really wrong with occasional use.

her parents used the line "it must be bad why do you think its illegal"
if i can find a good article about the racial implications behind the criminalization of pot, that might help aswell. Were not expecting miracles in change of opinion just a change in logic, its a shame that the governemnt sites that demonize pot are the ones people most likely read.

and all thooe molson canadian beers and stuff aren't even cheap good time beers, its like 44$ for a 24 of coors, and similar prices for molson and labbat, thats basically as much as 46$ for a 24 of heinken, its a shame our stupid tax laws over here

 

[Artificial Emotion]

spike them with acid and dress like jesus while telling them the truth about ganja. problem solved.

That made me laugh!

 

[superelephant]

spike them with acid and dress like jesus while telling them the truth about ganja. problem solved.

This is the best idea I've ever heard.

 

[Damien]

3. The most obvious concern when dealing with drug safety is
the possibility of lethal effects. Can the drug cause death?

4. Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal
effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in
the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented
cannabis-induced fatality.

- 56 -
5. This is a remarkable statement. First, the record on
marijuana encompasses 5,000 years of human experience. Second, marijuana
is now used daily by enormous numbers of people throughout the world.
Estimates suggest that from twenty million to fifty million Americans
routinely, albeit illegally, smoke marijuana without the benefit of
direct medical supervision. Yet, despite this long history of use and
the extraordinarily high numbers of social smokers, there are simply no
credible medical reports to suggest that consuming marijuana has caused a
single death.

6. By contrast aspirin, a commonly used, over-the-counter
medicine, causes hundreds of deaths each year.

http://www.druglibrary.org/olsen/MEDICAL/YOUNG/young1.html

 

[superelephant]

tl;dr for the most part

If I were you I would beat them over the head with the fact that thc is neuroprotective rather than neurotoxic. This is a hard one for some to swallow.

NSFW:

Research in rats indicates that THC prevents hydroperoxide-induced oxidative damage as well as or better than other antioxidants in a chemical (Fenton reaction) system and neuronal cultures.[37] In mice low doses of Δ9-THC reduces the progression of atherosclerosis.[38]

Research has also shown that past claims of brain damage from cannabis use fail to hold up to the scientific method.[39] Instead, recent studies with synthetic cannabinoids show that activation of CB1 receptors can facilitate neurogenesis,[40] as well as neuroprotection,[41] and can even help prevent natural neural degradation from neurodegenerative diseases such as MS, Parkinson's, and Alzheimer's. This, along with research into the CB2 receptor (throughout the immune system), has given the case for medical marijuana more support.[42][43] THC is both a CB1 and CB2 agonist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thc#Studies_in_humans

 

[Sega420]

i still say you should just spike them.

 

[Mr_Fluffykins]

i still say you should just spike them.

i agree but this lovely young lady, does not have acid, and i wont be in toronto soon enough
to be effective,

but thats everyone for the helpful information especially sega420, i will do your idea whne possible

 

[Mr_Fluffykins]

We tried the acid technique worked well, but when they came down they started making animal noises? can somebody help?

 

[Vader]

Let's not be silly, that's what the social is for.

 

[Mr_Fluffykins]

Let's not be silly, that's what the social is for.

apologys

she has read the thread hopefully some good other something comes out of it
we didn't really spike her parents with acid, that would be an infringement of the rules to discuss,

 

[Voxide]

There is this girl i know, and she is 17, and her parents believe all the illogical scare tactics, shes been getting in shit a lot lately, and her parents think its just as bad as crack, and that everything they have read makes it look really bad.

So the goal is to find articles, that aren't on cannabis sites, with cannabis in their name, or cannabis leaves everywhere, which take away from the authenticity of the article and site, and leave you knowing there is a definite bias. This is our chance to change the minds of people, and save a girl from unfair and unjust parenting caused by misinformation.

SOOOO, you lazy stoners help, and yerg, purple cloud, and chainmasta, if this is a bad thread, bend me over and shove that mod stick firmly up my anus.
that is all.

ps she is a bluelighter, not aloud to use a computer, because she came home smelling like cannabis after a heavy vape session, at Toronto's own vapor central, so have some compassion for a fellow bluelighter,

The kid is a minor. The parents have every right to do whatever they feel is appropriate. I don't see anything unjust or unfair about it. Not letting her use a computer that THEY most likely bought. Please enlighten me.
Asking for an unbiased "Pro"-Cannabis article is the epitome of an oxymoron.

I really see nothing wrong whatsoever. This thread in itself is incredibly biased. Minors shouldn't have anything to do with Cannabis. At all. Ask any "non-biased" Cannabis proponent and they will say the exact same thing.

 

[drewmandan]

Don't ignore the negative effects of cannabis (and there ARE negative effects with long term use), or you'll run the risk of sounding like a shill. Every drug, even cannabis, has positives and negatives. For example, cannabis causes short term memory impairment when you're actively using it. I've also seen people complain about loss of appetite when they're not high. And don't even attempt to tell me that frequent pot smokers don't have a very distinct glazed-over look in their eyes.

If you smoke pot there's also the tar buildup in your lungs. Apparently it doesn't cause cancer, but it does cause coughing. I know this from personal experience. I also know from personal experience that smoking causes more frequent sore throats and bacterial infections in the throat. And we also know that THC can *probably* aggravate mental conditions. Then again, it could cure them. But be honest about this. It's a risk.

The point is, you won't be taken seriously if you downplay the risks and exaggerate the benefits.


EDIT: Before anyone replies with "LOL what about booze!", know that I am well aware of the horrible effects of alcohol and I don't drink