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The MDMA experience feeling 'fake'

Charleston_Car

Charleston_Car

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I love MDMA, but sometimes the experience feels very fake, as if everything I just experienced was akin to watching a movie or hearing a story. Sometimes all those feelings I got while I was high make absolutely no sense once I come down, despite how true and amazing it all felt before. Not always, sometimes the whole thing is amazing (including the comedown), but a majority of the time it never feels real.

What do you guys think about this?
 
I think it goes both ways, your feelings are based on chemicals normally. So when on mdma those chemicals are shooting making you have emotions that are completely real at the moment. If you were sober and some how a serotonin serge was pushed, thats how you would feel. How ever you have to know that the things you say to people and such on mdma are kind of fake in a way because it is the chemicals talking. These aren't life long feelings you have, just temporary that are very 'real' at that moment. See what i mean how it goes both way, so in my opinion they are actually real emotions at the moment. But for the long term they are completely fake, no one stays absolutely true to their word on mdma once they come down.
 
Yeah, exactly, it's real at the moment but doesn't last, that's what I don't like about MDMA, you know?
 
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I haven't ever "felt" that it was fake. More, when I reflect on my experiences rationally, I conclude that it was fake. I mean, the emotions are real, but what I mean by fake is sort of...

You know how when you're happy, you can stand to be around lots of people you wouldn't stand to be around otherwise? Even without drugs, just when you're like in a good mood, it sort of carries over.

So E kind of is the extreme version of that. You're not making friends with everyone around you because you actually like them. You're just in a really good fuckin mood. Hence why you can sometimes think, "Man, I wouldn't actually hang out with those people normally..."

I think it is the sad truth of the drug.
 
The experience is completely fake. You introduce a foreign substance into your body. Now, that doesn't mean it isn't worthwhile. Just take it for what it is.
 
Idk if you think about it every emotion can probably be traced to some chemical reaction in your brain. But the thing is my feelings on mdma always feel genuine whereas off it they are more fake or just basic instinct or unthoughtful feelings.
 
I think it's all about your attitude towards MDMA consumption. Sure MDMA makes you feel empathic, loving and kinda in a "fake" way. But do you really have to concern yourself with this issue? If you're around people who are your friends, then just have a good time and enjoy yourself!

Think about it this way:
The alc experience is ultra fake, but no one ever mentions it... I mean it's a known thing that people take alc to relax, be more sociable and to be more comfortable with each other. You don't see people sipping OJ at the bar, do you?

I guess the reason that MDMA feels more fake is that it's less socially accepted and the high tends to be clearer than alc. You're still in control and you can't just say "Oh I was really drunk and acting stupid." You feel emotionally attached due to being high, but your head is still more or less clear.
 
Well I have been getting that " fake " feeling the last 2 times.... Nonetheless, after taking ACID,2c-i and DMT my world of lil ol' me is forever gone and I will never get that magic MDMA feeling of bliss again :( My last mdma experience on crystals lasted only 2 hours and I had the feeling I was joking myself into this world of perfection.
 
I know what are you saying, because sometimes i get the same feeling..

Its like some "fake happy feeling", but MDMA is a special drug because you can control what kind of trip you want..

You have to push the feeling of happiness. You must be hearing your favorite musics or artist, you must be with your close friends, girlfriend, etc.. I only take MDMA when i know that im going roll hard..

If you do this im sure that the "fake feeling" will never pass by your head..
 
LimaZ said:
I know what are you saying, because sometimes i get the same feeling..

Its like some "fake happy feeling", but MDMA is a special drug because you can control what kind of trip you want..

You have to push the feeling of happiness. You must be hearing your favorite musics or artist, you must be with your close friends, girlfriend, etc.. I only take MDMA when i know that im going roll hard..

If you do this im sure that the "fake feeling" will never pass by your head..
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Exactly, the feeling is only as fake as you let it be. :)
 
Charleston_Car said:
I love MDMA, but sometimes the experience feels very fake, as if everything I just experienced was akin to watching a movie or hearing a story. Sometimes all those feelings I got while I was high make absolutely no sense once I come down, despite how true and amazing it all felt before. Not always, sometimes the whole thing is amazing (including the comedown), but a majority of the time it never feels real.

What do you guys think about this?
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Well, it is a drug after all and involves artificially boosted brain chemistry. So there is an aspect to it that's "fake". Nothing necessarily wrong with that. Drugs are an artificially heightened experience, and that's fine if taken as such.
 
Fake in the same sense that any drug is fake, I guess. Some people are extra fake on it, and say stupid shit they don't mean just because they are rolling, but I think they are just fake people. I don't say things I don't mean when I'm rolling, but then again, when I roll, I'm not the type to say "we should hang out more" or "I'm glad were friends" or "I love you" blah blah blah... not me! I'd say when I'm angry (sober) is when I am the most fake. That's when I say a bunch of shit I don't mean.
 
If rolling is "fake" then what is real?
Reality is only our interpretation of what is going on, it is only our interaction with the world, and when we take a drug that changes how we interact with the world, that is just as "real" an experience as any other emotion or thought your might have.
The only difference is the entire experience is caused by mdma, however its not like you feel the mdma making you feel artificially good, the mdma is just making your brain flood with serotonin, a natural chemical that you feel daily.
I think that the experience is 100% "real" the only problem is when you come down, its harder to come to terms with what happened, especially since your no longer feeling incredible.
Try just enjoying the experience for what it is, but dont cling to the experience, and dont get attached to it.
not sure if any of this makes any sense, im pretty high. good luck
 
Just take things how they are..MDMA gives you what you cant achive wihtout it.
 
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My last roll I was walking in downtown Montreal and I turned to my friend who wasn't rolling and said "Wow, I just look right down the street with all the buildings in my peripherals and the city i just beautiful and gives me the happiest feeling in the world." Like many people have said in this thread, drugs are obviously artificial in a sense; I would never have analyzed the beauty of the city if I wasn't on MDMA. The reason I love altered perceptions/states is because I can cherish the memories I've had when I was on drugs and apply the perceptions I gained to my baseline lifestyle. Now, when I walk downtown I think back and I get a little bit of a good feeling and I'm reminded that my city is beautiful. In a way, the fakeness can be applied to reality if you so wish. No matter how deep my love is for beans and how much I think about rolling, the greatness for me in a twisted way is related to the contrast between the high and the baseline and the perception I have when I return to normal.

Sort of unrelated, but I often feel like my life is a movie while rolling. I guess it's kind of like living a lie but damn it feels great.
 
Hmmmm.....I have a feeling that this "fake" feeling you feel is possibly the more psychedelic effects of MDMA overpowering the lovey feeling? I sometimes start to feel strange, like everything is a bit off....I can be in the most comfortable crowd with my bestest friends and most favorite bands or DJs playing, and sometimes things just seem off....Even on top quality MDMA (in CA here). Sometimes things just seem strange, movie-like, dissasociative, fake-ish. I always have to snap myself out of it and realize I am around great people seeing great music. Thats why I also try to only roll when I'm in a trusty crowd that I feel good in anyway without drugs. That way, any time a drug feels strange, I just realize I'm in a good place. "If you get confused just listen to the music play"....You know that hippy saying :) It used to happen when I first started using 10 years ago, but back then my tolerance was so low that I was waaaay too euphoric to care if I felt fake or not ;) hahahahaha These days I think I question more because my tolerance is up.....it doesn't work as well as it used to.
 
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