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@cazamac one of the reasons methadone is used as a substitute for H is that it has no eurphoric content - it can make you drowsey and i suppose you get 'a' feeling from it but not anything like as good as any other opiates/opiods
kkattastic
Bluelighter
on my 1st day off the gear i always do 180ml
the next day i do 120ml
then i try to cut by 20ml each day until i am at my prescribed dose-60ml
Hi folks,
Everytime i get some time to come on here, i am catching up on posts, but still have a few more to read (about 100) so just a quick hello, and update:
Ive been keeping to same man now for weeks, as his was tested at 12%, not amazing, but has H in it at least, but also tried somebody else last night, as reports coming in from all over the city that its getting loads better, the stuff i tried last night wasn't as good as mu usual, but a lot better then it was back when it was good bash, I was gouching last night on .3
Im now off to try someones in the family, my bf's side of the family, as he has got intouch this morning, and said its lovely, last time i had off him was about 6 months ago, it was off a turkish lad, it was tested at 78% (that was last june) so i will be back with a report on that front, obviously its not going to be fire, but reports im getting are sounding very promising... saying that at least i have my main man that has had the 12% for a few weeks now, and its consistant...its cut with manitol, has that glow to it (orange like colour) and when you open the tube, it has that familiar smell..(it comes from London, and goes through one hand)
Well here goes, off to try the one from the family...! bbl
will catch up with posts soon as would like to know how things are around blighty..x
Everytime i get some time to come on here, i am catching up on posts, but still have a few more to read (about 100) so just a quick hello, and update:
Ive been keeping to same man now for weeks, as his was tested at 12%, not amazing, but has H in it at least, but also tried somebody else last night, as reports coming in from all over the city that its getting loads better, the stuff i tried last night wasn't as good as mu usual, but a lot better then it was back when it was good bash, I was gouching last night on .3
Im now off to try someones in the family, my bf's side of the family, as he has got intouch this morning, and said its lovely, last time i had off him was about 6 months ago, it was off a turkish lad, it was tested at 78% (that was last june) so i will be back with a report on that front, obviously its not going to be fire, but reports im getting are sounding very promising... saying that at least i have my main man that has had the 12% for a few weeks now, and its consistant...its cut with manitol, has that glow to it (orange like colour) and when you open the tube, it has that familiar smell..(it comes from London, and goes through one hand)
Well here goes, off to try the one from the family...! bbl
will catch up with posts soon as would like to know how things are around blighty..x
dinner
Greenlighter
How much milligram is a milliliter does any 1 know this ? I dont know about the charge but you get very stoned from large doses.
kkattastic
Bluelighter
regular green methadone 1ml=1mg
monstanoodle
Bluelight Crew
Still nice "3-toots-and-I'm-feelin-fiiiiiine" stuff here 
Still smaller amounts but tis to be expected. But yea, I always worry "Will it be back to shit bash again this week" but, since he got the nice stuff in it's been constant.
I've not been following the thread much but is there any improvement for any of you all?
I hope so, because it's around... Suppose that cunts will just flog bash while they still can. I seem to have a bit of a gem of a guy apparently
Let other users know to Boycott the Bash!!! - Honestly, it'll be worth the pain to get the gain
Still smaller amounts but tis to be expected. But yea, I always worry "Will it be back to shit bash again this week" but, since he got the nice stuff in it's been constant.
I've not been following the thread much but is there any improvement for any of you all?
I hope so, because it's around... Suppose that cunts will just flog bash while they still can. I seem to have a bit of a gem of a guy apparently
Let other users know to Boycott the Bash!!! - Honestly, it'll be worth the pain to get the gain
Stabalized on methadone does not count as being using- thats just an effective way to get your life back on track and finaces square. My general productivity when I was on MMT was much better without dope and I had alot more extra chash, was more employable, ect...even if i was paying the clinic out of pocket, still saving loads. Keep staying strong and careful of the occasional taste on top of the methadone, that can lead you back to a double habit.
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
I know from personal experience.
jimboid1
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Fell upon some bash today, dagnamit. Although this particular recipe I don't mind too much, as it contained sleepers of some sort in. Plus some B. No more for me I don't think. Get v. mild w/dls from roaring off a ten every 7 days, and really I need to let it alone permanently - get the endorphins back or wotever innit bruv 
PapaverSom
Bluelighter
TO OUR YANKY AMERICAN FRIENDS, jspun and the other dude who posted recently: pay no attention to the arrogant comments from one or two-I know I aint alone in saying u guys are v welcome here and that I like reading ur posts regardless of length (altho spun u can go on a bit sometimes lol!). Its good to get an insight into what may be going on wiv this drought and I for one didnt know albanians were involved in our supply. So why the fuk is our gear so shite? Why are most of our drugs so fuckin shite? ie Coke, shite/fake/cut to fuck, ecstacy, fuckin shite/fake/diff drug altogether, heroin shite/fake/cut to fuck...wheres the fuckin China White or heroin base? As such large consumers of H there would be a massive market for good products
Scouse66- thanks for ur reply to my comment on the other forum re lying to prescribers, much appreciated an u didnt bore me
DROUGHT update- from Bristol, same stuff for a few weeks. At first I thought it was great, its lumpy/rocky, quite hard, good light brown/tan colour, really smells of gear, runs a treat etc and is a defo a million times better than the bash. I know its proper gear cos stopped takin the juice for a couple days and it held me well, but I aint totally convinced by it. Its very light on the foil when melted and doesnt taste of that much, and darkens as it goes on. You dont get that much smoke off it either. Its just a little unsatisfying. Dont get me wrong, Im sure loads of people would be over the moon to have this instead of the bash thats been doin the rounds, I certainly was/am. Think its proper afghan brown, but just not very strong. Or maybe it has been cut and repressed, who knows. Def aint clever bash tho, has anyone else been scoring this stufF? Peace
Scouse66- thanks for ur reply to my comment on the other forum re lying to prescribers, much appreciated an u didnt bore me
DROUGHT update- from Bristol, same stuff for a few weeks. At first I thought it was great, its lumpy/rocky, quite hard, good light brown/tan colour, really smells of gear, runs a treat etc and is a defo a million times better than the bash. I know its proper gear cos stopped takin the juice for a couple days and it held me well, but I aint totally convinced by it. Its very light on the foil when melted and doesnt taste of that much, and darkens as it goes on. You dont get that much smoke off it either. Its just a little unsatisfying. Dont get me wrong, Im sure loads of people would be over the moon to have this instead of the bash thats been doin the rounds, I certainly was/am. Think its proper afghan brown, but just not very strong. Or maybe it has been cut and repressed, who knows. Def aint clever bash tho, has anyone else been scoring this stufF? Peace
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monstanoodle
Bluelight Crew
Ok - Shifted all that chatting to the social thread, so if yer going "Wuh????" 
then that's where it is
then that's where it is dinner
Greenlighter
@jspun
The dope is a bit weaker and costs more about 35euro per gram which used to be 30.
The dope is a bit weaker and costs more about 35euro per gram which used to be 30.
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gavb
Bluelighter
Thanks a million
for your nice words about my luck (and luck it seems to be, just a lucky good suss)-yeah it is an old problem reappearing: calls coming in to say that good gear around but no money at that exact time-the panic that it'll soon be gone forever and ever!! Aagh roll on payday says you..@ dinner, thanks for the answer, sounds like you are effected by the drought but not to the extent of the British Isles. I enjoyed the national georgraphic article you posted a while back and hope you don't mind if I repost link. This answers one question in the puzel of the supply shock in the UK/Eire- Supply and demand- you Dutch have less heroin users and more effective/ comprehensive harm reduction methods in place, at least thats my theory.
Anyway, I bought "Opium for The Masses," which i highly recommend as essential reading for opiate enthusiasts and those of us that need them to function optimally. He hear stories of depressed people were diamorph is the only effective remedy they've found.
To quote the book, "The Poppy's central and indispensible position in our civizilization makes access to it important, and thus forbiding public access to the poppy is stagerlingly cruel. Ceding control of opiates means ceding control of pain relief to the State...which has shown truly morbid interest in inflicting pain and denying its relief in order to effect social change and maintain social control. This is a power that free people should never relinquish easily without a fight. ....
To overlook the significance of pain is a big mistake. Pain is the threat behind all threats...Both pain and the threat of pain make tyrany possible."
"Liberty however requires eternal vigilance"- and when tyrany becomes manifest must be squashed by the people like a malignant, pestulant insect, through the democratic action, peaceful assembly, or revolution as a last result.
Anyway, I bought "Opium for The Masses," which i highly recommend as essential reading for opiate enthusiasts and those of us that need them to function optimally. He hear stories of depressed people were diamorph is the only effective remedy they've found.
To quote the book, "The Poppy's central and indispensible position in our civizilization makes access to it important, and thus forbiding public access to the poppy is stagerlingly cruel. Ceding control of opiates means ceding control of pain relief to the State...which has shown truly morbid interest in inflicting pain and denying its relief in order to effect social change and maintain social control. This is a power that free people should never relinquish easily without a fight. ....
To overlook the significance of pain is a big mistake. Pain is the threat behind all threats...Both pain and the threat of pain make tyrany possible."
"Liberty however requires eternal vigilance"- and when tyrany becomes manifest must be squashed by the people like a malignant, pestulant insect, through the democratic action, peaceful assembly, or revolution as a last result.
Papaversom
SKIP THIS POST IF YOU DON'T CARE WHY THERE IS A DROUGHT OR SKIP TO MY SUMMARY IF YOU WANT A QUICK SYNOPSIS.
No worries mate...I have been accused deservidely so of being long winded lol. Your tyoical American wanker that won't shut up like I hear you guys run into on vacation. As for the bad vibes- i'm used to it, we are Americans after all, were used to being hated universally. When I was the most prolific and annoingly loquacious I was on holiday in Hawaii.
Tangent warning: Most of the American visitors from the mainland were friendly. Japanese tourists were exceptionally poilte and endearinglee friendly (though they didn't speak much English. But it might have been my bad luck, but European tourists, german in particular were exceptionaly rude which I took as an insult as they were visiting my home country (maybe they were undergoing PAWS? d/t the heroin drought)
. For all the reason (many legitimate) that Americans are hated abroad, I have found, as a surfer 3 essential rules you should follow while traveling. 1.) Show respect- your a guest in someone elses home. 2.) Don't do stupid shit and act like an ass that you wouldn't do at home (unless your in vegas or TJ- and treat the people of TJ with respect, they've been through hell. 3.) Treat others the way you would like to be treated. The Brazilians were realy friendly too.
I realize alot of Americans act like arogant assholes abroad and everyone hates our tendency to meddle in other countries bussiness- this would stop if it was up to me- But I don't make policy or vote for those that do I voted Libertarian.
Really good article:
http://antifascist-calling.blogspot.com/2008/02/welcome-to-kosovo-worlds-newest-narco.html
Kosovo, it would appear is one of the choke points- major arrests of key figures
here is the specific thread: http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=33196
This I posted from 1-25-11 about the albanian mob getting rolled up. Read if you interested.
Problem #2, supply and demand. When there is high demand and low supply, the price goes up, and when their isn't competition in the marketplace, dealers, who aren't usually the most principaled people will wack the supply with Bash, and pass it off at a higher price because they can- they have an inelastic good. However, the price will be volatile but hopefully there will be less users and more competitions by purveyors of stash so quality will steadly improve-which it seems to be doing, and price will steadly deacrease- but probably not to pre drought levels.
Problem# 3 KKat brought up the fact that your serious
Organized Crime Unit or watever its called was taking undue credit and in hindsight I think she's right. They undoughtedly played a role, as did the other LEOs involved both National and a concerted international effort- by the UNODCP, INTERPOLE, Russian Border Guards in Tajikistan, Narco cops in Iran (who make 1/2 of all busts), and to a much lesser extent afganistan (apparently their isn't alot of them and the few are mostly corrupt and involved in bringing dope to the border of Iran/ Tajikistan, ect...
#4.) The strategy has changed- NATO is starting to step up narcotics interdiction.
#5.) Crop replacement efforts- their working in northern opium provinces to an extent- people are growing other crops but hidding there poppy crops in harder to detect areas, there planting less but working it more efficiently. However in the south were coloboration with NATO can be a death sentence farmers are going to the crop sunsititution centers, getting fertilizer, and chucking the replacement crop seeds- using the fertilizer for the planned opium crops. The silver lining, because of the increased price of opium some experts predict farmers will be motivated to grow more poppies this season
#6.) The poppy blight might be due to engeneered fungi, however, the conditions it would appear weren't favorable to growth. The crop was very poor so thats another explanation. Popies need well watered but not waterloged soil at first. After that they require mosit soil. Otherwise they are suseptible to fungi. Heavy rains at the wrong time can ruin crops, especially in the spring around harvest time- by the way, though, opium is a hardy crop.
posted by dinner: This goes in debth into the harvest, blight, and international counternarcotics, crop substitution efforts, very well written:
1.) Coordinated LEO strikes on every level, disrupting traditional smugling routes north and south, and the DTOs bringing stuff in.
2.) Too many users and not enough supply
3.) Poppy Blight/Poor harvest
4.) Crop substitution and International efforts of LEO/Military in Sowth West Asia effecting supply.
5.) The taliban is manipulating the supply of dope to increase the price they get, to fund their war against the west.
6.) Eire is bankrupt and UK is in dire financial straights, someone in the gov probably figured out that getting more drugs off the streets will lead to less arrest/ jail time/ clogged courts for simple possession thus saving money.
This is unlike the US strategy. The drug war and prison industry are big interest. If drugs were legalized or their was a drought, LEOs would start getting laid off as would prison officials. What trips me out about the UK is your gov is cracking down on drugs. I was looking in our local free paper. There was 10 pages of adds for MD (one charging $35.00 with cupon) for eval and med mj card, and there was pages of dispensaries and delivery services. In contrast to Holland which limits to dutch nationals, once you get your card, you can get your buds delivered- this pisses LEOs to no end.
We have good pills because we have plants in North America and South America that produce Safrole- necessary for MDMA. You were getting your from endangered trees in Cambodia that international police rolled up, plus mephedrone hit scene.
We have descent coke because we are close to the source- the colombians bring in decent coke- that varies from good to shit, the mexicans bring it to the West for them. More stops to cut product along the way.
So thats my in debth analysis/theories, somebody please add theories, info, sources.
Silver lining, Kyrgistan is discussing growing poppies for licit reasons using modern technology. They were listed by forbes as being the 5th most corrupt nation and their economy is in the toilet. They're are rumors of it turning into a narco state- and atleast the procedes won't be funding terrorism, and revolutions.
Burma shan states and other counter gov warlords are discussing increasing production- using more efficient extraction techniques and opium strains developed in tasmania (like poppy straw extraction)- and their is a market to fill.
Colombia is supplying coke- UK is surpasing the US as highest per capita use. The same people might see the same opportunities in the Europe in the near future that they did in the US East Coast in the 90s- which prompted them to grow poppies and get technical assistance from south east asia in a professional way. Your UK government is very involved in that part of the world at the moment, though.
Opium is a hardy crop that usually is harvested in the winter (for instance in late winter early spring)- and grows around the world even the UK. Some Johnny Poppy seed might caste the little blue/black seeds (same ones used in cooking- more expensive more likely to germinate) might cast seeds far and wide throughout europe in empty public field, woods with plenty of sun coverage, not to grow poppies of course, just get rid of bagel seeds in a biodegradeable fashion- its a very hardy easy growing crop, kinda like a weed, not like the TLC cannabis requires.%)
The best way to get better drugs is quit illegal drugs all together- just drink the green stuff and boycott the rest. Or Like Moostadoodle says "Boycot the Bash", at the very least. NA will greatly increase your ability to do this. This is probably my longest one yet but the drought is caused by a number of factors- it is strangely not as acute in Continental Europe (unless someone here knows something different)/Canada (that gets some Afgan dope) probably because the demand isn't as high if I had to bet this is the biggest reason for market manipulation by criminal syndicates-because they can and it benefits their exploitive assess.
SKIP THIS POST IF YOU DON'T CARE WHY THERE IS A DROUGHT OR SKIP TO MY SUMMARY IF YOU WANT A QUICK SYNOPSIS.
No worries mate...I have been accused deservidely so of being long winded lol. Your tyoical American wanker that won't shut up like I hear you guys run into on vacation. As for the bad vibes- i'm used to it, we are Americans after all, were used to being hated universally. When I was the most prolific and annoingly loquacious I was on holiday in Hawaii.
Tangent warning: Most of the American visitors from the mainland were friendly. Japanese tourists were exceptionally poilte and endearinglee friendly (though they didn't speak much English. But it might have been my bad luck, but European tourists, german in particular were exceptionaly rude which I took as an insult as they were visiting my home country (maybe they were undergoing PAWS? d/t the heroin drought)
. For all the reason (many legitimate) that Americans are hated abroad, I have found, as a surfer 3 essential rules you should follow while traveling. 1.) Show respect- your a guest in someone elses home. 2.) Don't do stupid shit and act like an ass that you wouldn't do at home (unless your in vegas or TJ- and treat the people of TJ with respect, they've been through hell. 3.) Treat others the way you would like to be treated. The Brazilians were realy friendly too. I realize alot of Americans act like arogant assholes abroad and everyone hates our tendency to meddle in other countries bussiness- this would stop if it was up to me- But I don't make policy or vote for those that do I voted Libertarian.
Really good article:
http://antifascist-calling.blogspot.com/2008/02/welcome-to-kosovo-worlds-newest-narco.html
Kosovo, it would appear is one of the choke points- major arrests of key figures
here is the specific thread: http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=33196
This I posted from 1-25-11 about the albanian mob getting rolled up. Read if you interested.
Problem #2, supply and demand. When there is high demand and low supply, the price goes up, and when their isn't competition in the marketplace, dealers, who aren't usually the most principaled people will wack the supply with Bash, and pass it off at a higher price because they can- they have an inelastic good. However, the price will be volatile but hopefully there will be less users and more competitions by purveyors of stash so quality will steadly improve-which it seems to be doing, and price will steadly deacrease- but probably not to pre drought levels.
Problem# 3 KKat brought up the fact that your serious
Organized Crime Unit or watever its called was taking undue credit and in hindsight I think she's right. They undoughtedly played a role, as did the other LEOs involved both National and a concerted international effort- by the UNODCP, INTERPOLE, Russian Border Guards in Tajikistan, Narco cops in Iran (who make 1/2 of all busts), and to a much lesser extent afganistan (apparently their isn't alot of them and the few are mostly corrupt and involved in bringing dope to the border of Iran/ Tajikistan, ect...#4.) The strategy has changed- NATO is starting to step up narcotics interdiction.
#5.) Crop replacement efforts- their working in northern opium provinces to an extent- people are growing other crops but hidding there poppy crops in harder to detect areas, there planting less but working it more efficiently. However in the south were coloboration with NATO can be a death sentence farmers are going to the crop sunsititution centers, getting fertilizer, and chucking the replacement crop seeds- using the fertilizer for the planned opium crops. The silver lining, because of the increased price of opium some experts predict farmers will be motivated to grow more poppies this season
#6.) The poppy blight might be due to engeneered fungi, however, the conditions it would appear weren't favorable to growth. The crop was very poor so thats another explanation. Popies need well watered but not waterloged soil at first. After that they require mosit soil. Otherwise they are suseptible to fungi. Heavy rains at the wrong time can ruin crops, especially in the spring around harvest time- by the way, though, opium is a hardy crop.
posted by dinner: This goes in debth into the harvest, blight, and international counternarcotics, crop substitution efforts, very well written:
So in Sumary, shit H because
1.) Coordinated LEO strikes on every level, disrupting traditional smugling routes north and south, and the DTOs bringing stuff in.
2.) Too many users and not enough supply
3.) Poppy Blight/Poor harvest
4.) Crop substitution and International efforts of LEO/Military in Sowth West Asia effecting supply.
5.) The taliban is manipulating the supply of dope to increase the price they get, to fund their war against the west.
6.) Eire is bankrupt and UK is in dire financial straights, someone in the gov probably figured out that getting more drugs off the streets will lead to less arrest/ jail time/ clogged courts for simple possession thus saving money.
This is unlike the US strategy. The drug war and prison industry are big interest. If drugs were legalized or their was a drought, LEOs would start getting laid off as would prison officials. What trips me out about the UK is your gov is cracking down on drugs. I was looking in our local free paper. There was 10 pages of adds for MD (one charging $35.00 with cupon) for eval and med mj card, and there was pages of dispensaries and delivery services. In contrast to Holland which limits to dutch nationals, once you get your card, you can get your buds delivered- this pisses LEOs to no end.
We have good pills because we have plants in North America and South America that produce Safrole- necessary for MDMA. You were getting your from endangered trees in Cambodia that international police rolled up, plus mephedrone hit scene.
We have descent coke because we are close to the source- the colombians bring in decent coke- that varies from good to shit, the mexicans bring it to the West for them. More stops to cut product along the way.
So thats my in debth analysis/theories, somebody please add theories, info, sources.
Silver lining, Kyrgistan is discussing growing poppies for licit reasons using modern technology. They were listed by forbes as being the 5th most corrupt nation and their economy is in the toilet. They're are rumors of it turning into a narco state- and atleast the procedes won't be funding terrorism, and revolutions.
Burma shan states and other counter gov warlords are discussing increasing production- using more efficient extraction techniques and opium strains developed in tasmania (like poppy straw extraction)- and their is a market to fill.
Colombia is supplying coke- UK is surpasing the US as highest per capita use. The same people might see the same opportunities in the Europe in the near future that they did in the US East Coast in the 90s- which prompted them to grow poppies and get technical assistance from south east asia in a professional way. Your UK government is very involved in that part of the world at the moment, though.
Opium is a hardy crop that usually is harvested in the winter (for instance in late winter early spring)- and grows around the world even the UK. Some Johnny Poppy seed might caste the little blue/black seeds (same ones used in cooking- more expensive more likely to germinate) might cast seeds far and wide throughout europe in empty public field, woods with plenty of sun coverage, not to grow poppies of course, just get rid of bagel seeds in a biodegradeable fashion
- its a very hardy easy growing crop, kinda like a weed, not like the TLC cannabis requires.%)The best way to get better drugs is quit illegal drugs all together- just drink the green stuff and boycott the rest. Or Like Moostadoodle says "Boycot the Bash", at the very least. NA will greatly increase your ability to do this. This is probably my longest one yet but the drought is caused by a number of factors- it is strangely not as acute in Continental Europe (unless someone here knows something different)/Canada (that gets some Afgan dope) probably because the demand isn't as high if I had to bet this is the biggest reason for market manipulation by criminal syndicates-because they can and it benefits their exploitive assess.
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In a free society, the government should not limit the liberties and freedom of individuals so long as it doesn't interfere with others. Is ours? a truly free society. More from Opium for the Masses.
In my oinion the biggest problem of opium addiction is one of opium supply...sick people suffer if they don't have it. History is full of opiate addicts whose addiction did not interfere with their lives...for many the good to be gained from opium far outweighs the dangers...19th century physicians spoke openly of deliberately hooking their alcoholic patients on morphine as an effectve way to end the damage chronic alcohol alcohol drinking caused.Opium is even more innocuous than morphine and I challange those who still belive it to be the devil's tool to show me a shred of serious evidence that it is anymore harmful than carrots. [/QUOTE] (Hogshire, 2009 p 19)
morphine for alcohol- harm reduction 19th century style- wish the medical community still had some scrupples and operated on scientific peer reviewed literature when it came to the issue of opiates- and that lawmakers would listen to them.
Since we have so many brits on this thread I thought I would include this.
They also discused the average purity of heroin brown base in kabul (68.1) and in Germany it averaged 53.7% (12-89% based on 925 samples analyzed by the German National Police). This are all pre draught numbers. Of course this shows the obvious- bash is added at the retail level mostly, not the wholesale level. Also technical manufacture details in afganistan and SE Asia, as well as history, effects, opium specifically and its effects, the focus is on opium but they discus other opiates, stuff that wasn't in the first edition.
Also mention tea, pods, ect...
But from what you guys are saying, things already seem to be improving- if they are only fluctuations. My prediction is that good gear will be around by this early summer but prices and pre drought purity might take a few years to reach pre druaght levels if at all- unless other players enter the game- more players, more competition= better price and quality for the consumer.
But if you can go straightdge/green your better off, not a slave or pawn to those fuckers on both sides of the game.
In my oinion the biggest problem of opium addiction is one of opium supply...sick people suffer if they don't have it. History is full of opiate addicts whose addiction did not interfere with their lives...for many the good to be gained from opium far outweighs the dangers...19th century physicians spoke openly of deliberately hooking their alcoholic patients on morphine as an effectve way to end the damage chronic alcohol alcohol drinking caused.Opium is even more innocuous than morphine and I challange those who still belive it to be the devil's tool to show me a shred of serious evidence that it is anymore harmful than carrots. [/QUOTE] (Hogshire, 2009 p 19)
morphine for alcohol- harm reduction 19th century style- wish the medical community still had some scrupples and operated on scientific peer reviewed literature when it came to the issue of opiates- and that lawmakers would listen to them.
Since we have so many brits on this thread I thought I would include this.
Ibid 41[/QUOTE]
They also discused the average purity of heroin brown base in kabul (68.1) and in Germany it averaged 53.7% (12-89% based on 925 samples analyzed by the German National Police). This are all pre draught numbers. Of course this shows the obvious- bash is added at the retail level mostly, not the wholesale level. Also technical manufacture details in afganistan and SE Asia, as well as history, effects, opium specifically and its effects, the focus is on opium but they discus other opiates, stuff that wasn't in the first edition.
Also mention tea, pods, ect...
But from what you guys are saying, things already seem to be improving- if they are only fluctuations. My prediction is that good gear will be around by this early summer but prices and pre drought purity might take a few years to reach pre druaght levels if at all- unless other players enter the game- more players, more competition= better price and quality for the consumer.
But if you can go straightdge/green your better off, not a slave or pawn to those fuckers on both sides of the game.
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pinkpapaver
Bluelighter
Papaversom
SKIP THIS POST IF YOU DON'T CARE WHY THERE IS A DROUGHT OR SKIP TO MY SUMMARY IF YOU WANT A QUICK SYNOPSIS.
No worries mate...I have been accused deservidely so of being long winded lol. Your tyoical American wanker that won't shut up like I hear you guys run into on vacation. As for the bad vibes- i'm used to it, we are Americans after all, were used to being hated universally. When I was the most prolific and annoingly loquacious I was on holiday in Hawaii.
Tangent warning: Most of the American visitors from the mainland were friendly. Japanese tourists were exceptionally poilte and endearinglee friendly (though they didn't speak much English. But it might have been my bad luck, but European tourists, german in particular were exceptionaly rude which I took as an insult as they were visiting my home country (maybe they were undergoing PAWS? d/t the heroin drought)
I realize alot of Americans act like arogant assholes abroad and everyone hates our tendency to meddle in other countries bussiness- this would stop if it was up to me- But I don't make policy or vote for those that do I voted Libertarian.
Really good article:
http://antifascist-calling.blogspot.com/2008/02/welcome-to-kosovo-worlds-newest-narco.html
Kosovo, it would appear is one of the choke points- major arrests of key figures
here is the specific thread: http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=33196
This I posted from 1-25-11 about the albanian mob getting rolled up. Read if you interested.
Problem #2, supply and demand. When there is high demand and low supply, the price goes up, and when their isn't competition in the marketplace, dealers, who aren't usually the most principaled people will wack the supply with Bash, and pass it off at a higher price because they can- they have an inelastic good. However, the price will be volatile but hopefully there will be less users and more competitions by purveyors of stash so quality will steadly improve-which it seems to be doing, and price will steadly deacrease- but probably not to pre drought levels.
Problem# 3 KKat brought up the fact that your serious
#4.) The strategy has changed- NATO is starting to step up narcotics interdiction.
#5.) Crop replacement efforts- their working in northern opium provinces to an extent- people are growing other crops but hidding there poppy crops in harder to detect areas, there planting less but working it more efficiently. However in the south were coloboration with NATO can be a death sentence farmers are going to the crop sunsititution centers, getting fertilizer, and chucking the replacement crop seeds- using the fertilizer for the planned opium crops. The silver lining, because of the increased price of opium some experts predict farmers will be motivated to grow more poppies this season
#6.) The poppy blight might be due to engeneered fungi, however, the conditions it would appear weren't favorable to growth. The crop was very poor so thats another explanation. Popies need well watered but not waterloged soil at first. After that they require mosit soil. Otherwise they are suseptible to fungi. Heavy rains at the wrong time can ruin crops, especially in the spring around harvest time- by the way, though, opium is a hardy crop.
posted by dinner: This goes in debth into the harvest, blight, and international counternarcotics, crop substitution efforts, very well written:
So in Sumary, shit H because
1.) Coordinated LEO strikes on every level, disrupting traditional smugling routes north and south, and the DTOs bringing stuff in.
2.) Too many users and not enough supply
3.) Poppy Blight/Poor harvest
4.) Crop substitution and International efforts of LEO/Military in Sowth West Asia effecting supply.
5.) The taliban is manipulating the supply of dope to increase the price they get, to fund their war against the west.
6.) Eire is bankrupt and UK is in dire financial straights, someone in the gov probably figured out that getting more drugs off the streets will lead to less arrest/ jail time/ clogged courts for simple possession thus saving money.
This is unlike the US strategy. The drug war and prison industry are big interest. If drugs were legalized or their was a drought, LEOs would start getting laid off as would prison officials. What trips me out about the UK is your gov is cracking down on drugs. I was looking in our local free paper. There was 10 pages of adds for MD (one charging $35.00 with cupon) for eval and med mj card, and there was pages of dispensaries and delivery services. In contrast to Holland which limits to dutch nationals, once you get your card, you can get your buds delivered- this pisses LEOs to no end.
We have good pills because we have plants in North America and South America that produce Safrole- necessary for MDMA. You were getting your from endangered trees in Cambodia that international police rolled up, plus mephedrone hit scene.
We have descent coke because we are close to the source- the colombians bring in decent coke- that varies from good to shit, the mexicans bring it to the West for them. More stops to cut product along the way.
So thats my in debth analysis/theories, somebody please add theories, info, sources.
Silver lining, Kyrgistan is discussing growing poppies for licit reasons using modern technology. They were listed by forbes as being the 5th most corrupt nation and their economy is in the toilet. They're are rumors of it turning into a narco state- and atleast the procedes won't be funding terrorism, and revolutions.
Burma shan states and other counter gov warlords are discussing increasing production- using more efficient extraction techniques and opium strains developed in tasmania (like poppy straw extraction)- and their is a market to fill.
Colombia is supplying coke- UK is surpasing the US as highest per capita use. The same people might see the same opportunities in the Europe in the near future that they did in the US East Coast in the 90s- which prompted them to grow poppies and get technical assistance from south east asia in a professional way. Your UK government is very involved in that part of the world at the moment, though.
Opium is a hardy crop that usually is harvested in the winter (for instance in late winter early spring)- and grows around the world even the UK. Some Johnny Poppy seed might caste the little blue/black seeds (same ones used in cooking- more expensive more likely to germinate) might cast seeds far and wide throughout europe in empty public field, woods with plenty of sun coverage, not to grow poppies of course, just get rid of bagel seeds in a biodegradeable fashion
The best way to get better drugs is quit illegal drugs all together- just drink the green stuff and boycott the rest. Or Like Moostadoodle says "Boycot the Bash", at the very least. NA will greatly increase your ability to do this. This is probably my longest one yet but the drought is caused by a number of factors- it is strangely not as acute in Continental Europe (unless someone here knows something different)/Canada (that gets some Afgan dope) probably because the demand isn't as high if I had to bet this is the biggest reason for market manipulation by criminal syndicates-because they can and it benefits their exploitive assess.
its ll just doing my head in, this drought thing has so enlightened me to the fact that i am not alone as a frigin functionning addict, theres so many, but we have to stay on the hush hish coz of the criminal aspect. i m terrified of a life with out ger, absolutely terrified, i thought i would be able to do ok, but im terrified of it, when there was only bash available i was happy, but i dont know whenther i was fooling myself SO CONFUSED
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Thats how they powers that be want you, scared and confused, hidding in the shadows from the tyrants. To scared to speak up- just do your job and get by.
But there is a whole list of functioning addicts, Hogshire's book devotes a chapter to famous functional addicts (the majority were pre prohibition)
From my previous post and Hogshire's exerpt:
Thats how they powers that be want you, scared and confused, hidding in the shadows from the tyrants. To scared to speak up- just do your job and get by.
But there is a whole list of functioning addicts, Hogshire's book devotes a chapter to famous functional addicts (the majority were pre prohibition)
From my previous post and Hogshire's exerpt:
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