MDPV Megathread 5: Waiting for Jesus to show up

[ektamine]

P.S. thanks to Ektamine... I think most of my problem was sleep deprivation, that is more powerful than peevee. A couple solid sleeps and it seems all was fine.

No problem, glad to hear your feeling better :D

Fwiw I finally got some sleep, all was fine, did a bit more peevee today (last of what I had). Might have more coming in on Monday as well.

Heh, and so the cycle begins

The tan I had wasn't the same as the tan described by the people who sampled in 06 or stuffmongers tan. It was cut or poorly synth'd PV from a Polish vendor.

The white I got recently is easily the strongest, cleanest PV I've tried. Ended up chasing yesterday & last night til the early hours of this morning. Did more in one day chasing than the previous four days insnuffulation. Started at 10mg a time & by the end was upto 30mgs, had some proper cross-eyed bellringing euphoria. No other PV has come close.

You will not source tan that is as stuffmonger & those who sampled in 06 described from anywhere atm, trust me I've tried.

I did 100mg conversion of stuffmongers foolproof method last night which is currently drying

PS: IMO it's the not sleeping & eating that ruins you. I slept for a minimum of 3hours every night & haven't had any paranoia or comedown side effects from 5 days and 400-450mg of PV. Mg scales & weighing a set amount definately helps too.

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I figured sourcing it would still be difficult/impossible. For a year or so now, I've been getting a consistent product from my vendor, a VERY VERY light tan, not as clumpy as the pure white, and its the best PV I've personally come across yet. I found it to be just a notch down in anxiousness / paranoia from the clumpy pure white hcl like I was getting from several more well-known vendors. It also seems to chase a little better, although I'm a pinner not a chaser.

 

[captain codshit]

TBH chasing it seems more difficult than meth or MPA. The white I had ran the best of any PV, but seems there's a happy medium dose wise, 15-20mg runs well. Less and it vapes too quick, more and it doesn't want to run and clumps up wanting to burn.

If it's MDPV or any chemical white would surely be more likely pure than an off white/tan unless it's through oxidization to my knowlage.

I haven't found this white to cause any anxiety/paranoia.

 

[ektamine]

TBH chasing it seems more difficult than meth or MPA. The white I had ran the best of any PV, but seems there's a happy medium dose wise, 15-20mg runs well. Less and it vapes too quick, more and it doesn't want to run and clumps up wanting to burn.

If it's MDPV or any chemical white would surely be more likely pure than an off white/tan unless it's through oxidization to my knowlage.

I haven't found this white to cause any anxiety/paranoia.

Huh, thats interesting to me. I've never tried PV from anywhere or anyone that didn't bring on at least some noticeable level of paranoia by the end of the day. What would you say (for a 1 - 3 day period) your average dose and frequency of redosing is?

for example,
on average I probably dose between 10 - 20mg,
redosing 1 - 2 times an hour.

thats a rough estimate, but following those guidelines with any PV I've ever tasted for a day or two would have me checkin' the windows.

 

[koneko]

Regarding the comedown, the twice I've done sensible doses, I've had a brutal physical comedown afterwards. Very uncomfortable and sketchy, shaky inside. This went on for hours and 2 xanax wouldn't let me escape.

No paranoia, headspace has been resolved and rationalised what was going on here and just biding time.

ymmv

 

[captain codshit]

Huh, thats interesting to me. I've never tried PV from anywhere or anyone that didn't bring on at least some noticeable level of paranoia by the end of the day. What would you say (for a 1 - 3 day period) your average dose and frequency of redosing is?

for example,
on average I probably dose between 10 - 20mg,
redosing 1 - 2 times an hour.

thats a rough estimate, but following those guidelines with any PV I've ever tasted for a day or two would have me checkin' the windows.

It varied. First couple of days 5-10mg every 3hrs ish, with 3-4hrs sleep each night.

3-4th days, 10-15mg every 3-4. 3hrs sleep per night.

Total between 4 days sniffing 150-200mgs.

Day 5 200-250mg chased. Starting at 10mg upto 30-35mg loaded on foil each time.

GBL, weed, hash & booze every day in combo.

I think the lack of paranoia was more due to mindset & lessons learnt on how to handle PV from previous sessions.

Also I find comedown off it is all to do with mindset, sleep, food, set, setting & dose.

3 days chasing & no sleep will undoubtedly result in paranoid delusions IMO/IME.

 

[ektamine]

It varied. First couple of days 5-10mg every 3hrs ish, with 3-4hrs sleep each night.

3-4th days, 10-15mg every 3-4. 3hrs sleep per night.

Total between 4 days sniffing 150-200mgs.

Day 5 200-250mg chased. Starting at 10mg upto 30-35mg loaded on foil each time.

GBL, weed, hash & booze every day in combo.

I think the lack of paranoia was more due to mindset & lessons learnt on how to handle PV from previous sessions.

Also I find comedown off it is all to do with mindset, sleep, food, set, setting & dose.

3 days chasing & no sleep will undoubtedly result in paranoid delusions IMO/IME.

All very accurate points. I have found more and more with each binge, these words in particular to be true:

Also I find comedown off it is all to do with mindset, sleep, food, set, setting & dose.

The only part that I find myself different from is this:

I think the lack of paranoia was more due to mindset & lessons learnt on how to handle PV from previous sessions.

I find that however much experience I gain, however many times I prove to myself again and again that the fears were/are irrational, they seem real at the time. Sleep deprivation magnifies this effect x 1,000,000 obviously, but at the same time I still experience this when I 'cross the line' so-to-speak, on the first day.

Quite obviously the simplest solution here would be to not cross the line, but thats kind of akin to telling an alcoholic to stop after 2 beers :D

 

[captain codshit]

Sniffing becomes unpleasant awake for days or too high a dose.

I know what you mean though. Very hard not to binge, chasing it is impossible not to fiend a bit. I find benzos are bad with it, lends itself to prolong side effects & leads to a worse comedown really.

Better to dose low on the first day and let tollerance build up before you go bananas on it.

There's a certain point it is just pointless. If you want to be more fucked you'd be aswell with meth or something more euphoric.

 

[ektamine]

Sniffing becomes unpleasant awake for days or too high a dose.

I know what you mean though. Very hard not to binge, chasing it is impossible not to fiend a bit. I find benzos are bad with it, lends itself to prolong side effects & leads to a worse comedown really.

Better to dose low on the first day and let tollerance build up before you go bananas on it.

There's a certain point it is just pointless. If you want to be more fucked you'd be aswell with meth or something more euphoric.

Its funny you mention the thing about benzos. I have probably hit a triple digit amount of PV runs by now. The two times I have combined benzos with PV it has ended with me going completely wonky and coming to in a jail cell. I shit you not. The first time was with phenazepam and the second triazolam. Those two experiences were fully without a doubt the most psychotic experiences my psyche has ever been through.

NSFW:

AHH FUCK EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE IS COMING ALIVE AND ATTACKING ME!!1!1 ! EVIL EVIL EVIL

^ That kind of thing. Its like the benzos didn't even phase Mr. Peever, they simply added to the mass pandemonium. So I try and avoid that these days


And as far as sniffed dosing becoming dull, I agree. Nowadays if I cross into a second day its usually by chasing or shooting. The latter being incredibly addictive for me. There's something about instant stimulation sexily backhanding you across the face in full force. Hmmmm....

:D

 

[SDBF]

Its funny you mention the thing about benzos. I have probably hit a triple digit amount of PV runs by now. The two times I have combined benzos with PV it has ended with me going completely wonky and coming to in a jail cell. I shit you not. The first time was with phenazepam and the second triazolam. Those two experiences were fully without a doubt the most psychotic experiences my psyche has ever been through.

NSFW:

AHH FUCK EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE IS COMING ALIVE AND ATTACKING ME!!1!1 ! EVIL EVIL EVIL

^ That kind of thing. Its like the benzos didn't even phase Mr. Peever, they simply added to the mass pandemonium. So I try and avoid that these days


And as far as sniffed dosing becoming dull, I agree. Nowadays if I cross into a second day its usually by chasing or shooting. The latter being incredibly addictive for me. There's something about instant stimulation sexily backhanding you across the face in full force. Hmmmm....

:D

I said this earlier, the only thing that works well for the comedown is GHB/GBL/1,4BDO. Everything else sucks. Benzos make me irrational or moreso than I already am, alcohol just means I can drink a half gallon of vodka and have a massive hangover while still being awake and drunk, weed makes the paranoia super intense.

 

[Rusted Chains]

The white I had ran the best of any PV, but seems there's a happy medium dose wise, 15-20mg runs well. Less and it vapes too quick, more and it doesn't want to run and clumps up wanting to burn.

Perhaps dose and heat are two somewhat related variables. Some believe that patience, and using a very low heat, while vaping can lead to a more rewarding, cleaner research experience. Comparing favorably to using a high heat and vaping everything in one shot, as it were.

 

[sighhill]

Today I had a friend tell me he was strongly addicted to MDPV and has been trying to quit for some time. He told me this because he was wondering about alternatives to help with withdrawl. PeeVee is easily available around here even without getting on the web. Since rehab is no option for him right now , I suggested watering down and/or scheduled pre-measured doses, slightly reducing the measurement of it each dose. He said he was unable to control dose size because of fiending, availabilty, and has no one close to help him.
The only RC alternatives I could think of are all almost pure stims. Unlike myself, he gets euphria from MDPV. Plus I don't believe an alternative could solve his problem.
So is there any close alternatives in the RC world that anyone of you would recommend?

 

[clara]

So... Has jesus actually shown up yet? And did he at least bring some tan?

 

[Shambles]

Fishes probably rather than fishtanks. Oh...

*waves at baby jeebus*

Perhaps dose and heat are two somewhat related variables. Some believe that patience, and using a very low heat, while vaping can lead to a more rewarding, cleaner research experience. Comparing favorably to using a high heat and vaping everything in one shot, as it were.

I would definitely recommend the lowest possible flame. And also make sure your foil is smooth as possible - wrinkles and stuff frazzle it much quicker. 10mg should run up and down clean as a whistle for a surprisingly long time. But the lower the flame the better, for sure.

 

[ektamine]

Oh Hai Guyz

I understand you've been waiting for me??? Well, rejoice! For I have finally come back. Sorry it took me so long, I made the mistake of ordering a large amount of peevee and binged my way through it. Got somewhat side-tracked.... All is good now.

I hope you've been good in my absence, and did not molest too many furry creatures.

Oh and what the fuck is going on with the crosses everywhere??? Do you really think I want to see crosses? And what would you have done if I had died by drowning? Hung fishtanks everywhere???

Were gonna need some proof... I'll believe you when you teach me how to make water into MDPV.

But the lower the flame the better, for sure.

So you mean theres actually a use for those 99¢ gas station lighters?

 

[mb01]

"Originally Posted by ektamine"

But speaking from personal experience, I have abused the living FUCK out of PV

How much we talking here?

 

[ektamine]

"Originally Posted by ektamine"

But speaking from personal experience, I have abused the living FUCK out of PV

How much we talking here?

I'm not exactly sure, but probably close to triple digit grams by now. usually a gram per binge. Over a year and half - two years maybe.

 

[mb01]

I'm not exactly sure, but probably close to triple digit grams by now. usually a gram per binge. Over a year and half - two years maybe.

Welcome to my world! I know how it is!

Tried to pm you but can't yet!

 

[Mailmonkey]

what temp does peevee vapourise at?

 

[Myshkin]

I understand you've been waiting for me??? Well, rejoice! For I have finally come back. Sorry it took me so long, I made the mistake of ordering a large amount of peevee and binged my way through it. Got somewhat side-tracked.... All is good now.

Ah, the Lamb of Yahweh. It has indeed been a while.

May I bring up the awkward issue of Mithras, Bacchus and Horus wanting their money back?

 

[Dedbeet]

Today I had a friend tell me he was strongly addicted to MDPV and has been trying to quit for some time. He told me this because he was wondering about alternatives to help with withdrawl. PeeVee is easily available around here even without getting on the web. Since rehab is no option for him right now , I suggested watering down and/or scheduled pre-measured doses, slightly reducing the measurement of it each dose. He said he was unable to control dose size because of fiending, availabilty, and has no one close to help him.
The only RC alternatives I could think of are all almost pure stims. Unlike myself, he gets euphria from MDPV. Plus I don't believe an alternative could solve his problem.
So is there any close alternatives in the RC world that anyone of you would recommend?

Forget withdrawals, IMO, forget substitutes, forget cutting down. The only way to quit peevee is to toss it out and not buy it again. If he isn't "able" to do that, he may not be ready to quit yet.

It's not like heroin, where you have nasty physical withdrawals or anything... or any physical withdrawals, really.