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Getting Off Suboxone, Please Give Me Some Input

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Hey Everyone,

I've been snorting suboxone for the last three years (probably around 1- .5mg a day). It's changed my life in a lot of strange ways and I miss the clarity of real life and some close relationships have been left in the wake of this habit. I've tried to quit cold turkey before and went 10 days but it was agony and I was still in pain on the 10th day so I gave up. But, now I'm desperate and I'm willing to do what it takes. I'm just wondering if there may be an easier way out.

I'm determined this time to leave it behind me. I know there are many threads on this site that address this, but it would mean a lot to me to hear some of your stories and get some of your advice for jumping off.

Here's my deal: I have 6 8mg suboxone left (each pill usually lasts me about a week), I have like 200 vicoprofins, 100 ambien, and a few adderall. I've heard that if you ween off the subs for a week that you might be able to combat some of the pain of withdrawal by swithing to vicodin. If you know anything about it, I'd appreciate your input. Anyway, I plan to start this tomorrow and have cleared my calendar for the next 10 days.

Thanks for any advice. :)
 
Hey whitecat.
Can you clarify a little?
I see your on hydrocodone and suboxone, do you plan to stop taking both? or just the suboxone.

imo hydrocodone has a higher addictve rate (for me). The ambien will be great for taking at night time. Save those ambiens for nights you can't sleep.
Since suboxone is an opiate antagonist you dont want to mix the both hydrocodone and suboxone together. some people it's good, while for others (like me) i get sick as fuck when i mix the two.

I can't tell you what to do but I can tell you what has helped me in my recovery.

Since your dosing low on the suboxone, the hydrocodone will come in handy, because when i went from methadone maintenance to suboxone maintenance i went from 160mg methadone a day to 3x 8mg suboxone a day, since methadone is a stronger narcotic then morphine, and a 8mg suboxone is like compared to 30-60mg (dont quote me on that).

talk about what you want to do, do you want to try tapering on the suboxone with suboxone, or use the hydrocodone?
 
yea dont do what i did and hop off at 1 mg get off at like .1 or .2 like the other people said. im still sick from it but i cant realyl tell because im withdrawing from benzos and lyrica too but all i know is if i could get through it you could. as far as sleep goes, ambien should help. i used trazadone and when i wasnt kicking and flailing my arms i got 3 or 4 hours of sleep a night, not enough to feel normal but enough to not go crazy. i cant use ambien because im trying to get my gaba to heal but it should def make things a lot easier for you. geodon also helped calm me a little, its an anti-psychotic. I kicked monday and im starting to feel a tiny bit better as far as the suboxone withdrawal is concnerned so you hopping off at .2 should be an even better outlook. its shitty tho man i know that. ive never withdrawn from opiates alone but i know it cant be bad as coming off klonopin so just hang in there and beat this shit. \\
also if i were you i would use kratom instead of vicoden it will be even easier.
 
Thanks for your responses. I appreciate the words of encouragement.

To clarify, I'm only taking suboxone right now. I wrote the other drugs that I have in case someone might have some ideas to use them to help ease or speed wd's. I don't plan on mixing the hydro's and suboxone, I just thought I might be able to take the hydros to ease wd after jumping off the subs.

Since I only snort the suboxone, is it more effective than taking it sublingually? Should I start just taking it that way for tapering off?

Thanks love2party for the wd guide, I;m sure that'll be handy.

I hear ya duneplanet, I'll def jump off at as low a dose as I can stand. Hearing that your wd's are getting a little easier after only 4 days is really encouraging. I hope I have similar results to you. I'll try working with the ambien for sleep. What's kratom? I'll have to see if I can get my hands on it otherwise the vicodens my only backup relief.

Thanks again you guys, I appreciate your help!
 
whitecat said:
Hey Everyone,

I've been snorting suboxone for the last three years (probably around 1- .5mg a day). It's changed my life in a lot of strange ways and I miss the clarity of real life and some close relationships have been left in the wake of this habit. I've tried to quit cold turkey before and went 10 days but it was agony and I was still in pain on the 10th day so I gave up. But, now I'm desperate and I'm willing to do what it takes. I'm just wondering if there may be an easier way out.

I'm determined this time to leave it behind me. I know there are many threads on this site that address this, but it would mean a lot to me to hear some of your stories and get some of your advice for jumping off.

Here's my deal: I have 6 8mg suboxone left (each pill usually lasts me about a week), I have like 200 vicoprofins, 100 ambien, and a few adderall. I've heard that if you ween off the subs for a week that you might be able to combat some of the pain of withdrawal by swithing to vicodin. If you know anything about it, I'd appreciate your input. Anyway, I plan to start this tomorrow and have cleared my calendar for the next 10 days.

Thanks for any advice. :)
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whats up brother , when i came off suboxone i was shocked at how long the withdrawl lasts , which is all because of the bupes affinity , they hold on to your receptors tighter than pretty much anything out there , so thats why the detox is dragging out so long , i got my self down to 2 mg a day then dropped off since your snorting you can go down to 1 milligram even half if you wanted and if you take your time the withdrawal will be mild because you will actually be withdrawing while lowering your dose , after your last dose of bupe stick it out again for about 4 days then the vikes will help , but remember your going from a partial to a full analgesic so you must wait to reap the benefits , and even then you should be taking as little as possible orally considering the goal is to stop ,so 200 vikes is way to many get rid of a hundred and 92 of them, you should only be on the vikes for like a quick 4 day ween lowering and spacing dosses farther apart just enough to take the edge off theres no escaping without getting sick but you can make it semi tolerable , but you need to remain in pain so you know the drugs are leaving your system , i know its hard but eat and drink (i say that and was never able to while detoxing ) when the vikes are gone if its within your reach get a bottle of liquid tylanol with codien ,(see the pattern were taking weaker and weaker opiates ), take a swig of that when you just cant stand it and it will help, your gonna hurt but it will help , so if you do that correctly the opiates should be almost gone , i see you mentioned addarall, as far as im concerned that is the wonder drug for paws (post acute withdrawl syndrome )it will give you your energy and remove many of the mild left over effects of the opiates by making your receptors kick into overdrive and start producing your natural brain chemicals again , so put those in a safe place , if you stay strict and man up you deff will get threw this but theres no cure all, you have to manage your sickness while dropping threw the opiates and make sure you remain sick , once your done with the codiene (or vikes) your in the home stretch couple of days with nothing and youll be fine , thats when the adderall comes in .........good luck brother , please if you have any questions just ask ive done this successfully......
 
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G I am also day one off sub. I think the worst part was THINKING about withdrawals ya know? Once they hit I was like " oh yeah, that's what they are like ". It kind of took away the overwhelming terror feeling . I am with you 100 percent . Get through 2 weeks any way you have to . My way is Kraton but whatever it takes. Also as previously mentioned wait at least 48 hours before you take the vikes and be REAL careful . Once you start liking em too much and that switch goes off in your head...well you know the rest.
 
Its really not that bad, i think its easier than a full agonist WD. Although i dont get any high off of bupe whatsoever.
 
Trust me theres much worse things to be kicking and in worse ways. Ive seen guys go cold turkey from 110mg a day methadone maintainence, and just watching that gave me that sick skin feeling. Ive been on and off sub/oxone/utex for like 3 years. It made it to easy to hope back on the dope train, just dont take a pill and shoot a half a bag to push the bupe outta your head and make way for your real shot right after. But im over it all, i was on every opiate painkiller from darvon8) to fentanyl8o, oxy to opana, lortabs, norcos, ms cotins, good old hydromorphone<3, demerol, the only one id like to give a try is OXYMORPHAZONE. yea i read it up on wiki and it forms a covalent bond with your receptors which means it is UNBREAKABLE, supposed to be something like IV OXYMORPHONE <snip> Im going into to get the exact opposite this week. Vivitrol. the Naltrexone shot, in a sustained solution that stays in the body for over 30 days. No more opiates for me. weed n benzos from now i guess...5 xanax and a guiness- if anyone gets that quote from that song you one a million stoner points.
 
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Just think about how much worse it could be....

From what everyone who has experienced both sub and methadone WD has said the sub WD is nowhere near as bad.

I only know that I would rather chop off my right arm than go through methadone WD again. But I will have to at some point as I have been on it for over 2 years.
 
hi, whew

What's up empty1, thanks a lot for your input. I actually started to ween down so I'm at about 3/4mg a day right now and I'm hoping to get down to 1/2 by this weekend and then jump off mid next week. i've pretty much got myself stocked with foods I think i might keep down and protein shakes, etc. I'm also gonna try kicking my immune system up a little with a vitamin regimen (who know if that'll help too much). So, I'm gonna try to make it to 3-4 days before introducing the vikes and I'll see if I can get my hands on some of that tylenol codein syrup. When I use the adderall, how much and often should I take?

I'm feeling good about getting on with this. I know I've got it in me to get this out of my system. I only hope i can find a replacement that's a little less hectic for me cuz, realistically, I won't be sober. Maybe booze n benzos for me too, PysceldeliChaperoN

How many days do you think it'll be before it's all outta me?

Thanks again you all, it means a lot
 
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