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smokeweed69

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So im not sure if any of you guys know this. but i have a brother in law who is really into science, and also smokes weed. he did some research and found out that apparently, theres a molecule in weed, that when it floats around in the brain, simulates hunger. this molecule is apparently the exact shape and size of the hunger molecule. im not 100% sure if its a molecule or chemical, but either way. so, when we smoke weed, this molecule floats around, and the brain picks it up as hunger. that is why you get the munchies ;)
 
If you search for 'cannabis + hyperphagia' you'll find a whole load of info on this.
Interestingly, some of the other cannabinoids in cannabis actually counteract 'the munchies'.
So there should be some varieties out there that are much less likely to leave you eating everything in sight. :)
 
3rd_I_blind said:
If you search for 'cannabis + hyperphagia' you'll find a whole load of info on this.
Interestingly, some of the other cannabinoids in cannabis actually counteract 'the munchies'.
So there should be some varieties out there that are much less likely to leave you eating everything in sight. :)
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that is very true on the different varieties. if you pay close enough attention when your smoking different strains, you'll notice that they give you different levels of the munchies. for example, i had a bag of some no name weed not too long ago, and it gave me the munchies to the point that my stomach would growl right after smoking. no other weed has given me the munchies to that point before. now i got a new bag of different outdoor weed, and i only get a small case of the munchies (to the point that if im busy enough, i dont feel it). it can be rediculous lol
 
Yeah it can be quite hilarious.
There were even some cannabinoid-based diet pills on the marker (Rimonabant).
But they had to be suspended because they caused severe depression (and I believe even suicide) in some cases...
It's now being tested as a drug to assist quitting smoking if I'm not mistaken.
Possibly also a link with the 'munchies' you can get after you quit smoking. ;)
 
Sega420 said:
hunger molecule? OP wtf are you on about.
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science man. every chemical is composed of molecules. each molecule is different, some are the same, but its the different variations of the molecules that compose a chemical.

EDIT: haha, just thought of it.. they say stoners are stupid as shit, well i didnt even finish school and i know that. haha..
 
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hunger molecule? OP wtf are you on about.
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Indeed.
science man. every chemical is composed of molecules. each molecule is different, some are the same, but its the different variations of the molecules that compose a chemical.
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We know what molecules are, and what chemicals are (unlike you). A molecule is the smallest unit of a chemical. Any chemical is made up of molecules and any molecule is a chemical. The fact that you use scientific language to an express an idea doesn't make it scientific. The hormones that cause hunger are nothing like THC, they are big long proteins.

In general, if you're going to post a thread positing scientific explanations for phenomena, you need to back it up with a link to a credible source, rather than telling us what your brother-in-law said. I would close this, but I'm hoping that some sensible discussion of a mechanism by which cannabis causes hunger might emerge.

Rimonabant is not a cannabinoid, it is effectively an anti-cannabinoid. It suppresses appetite by antagonising the cannabinoid receptors in the brain. This gives credence to the idea that "the munchies" are part and parcel of the effects of cannabis, not the effect of some other munchie-specific molecule. In fact, once you cut out the stupid stuff about the "hunger molecule", your post basically says "there's chemicals in weed that make you hungry". Well, yeah, we know. They're the same ones that get you high.
 
i dont have to explain myself to the likes of you. what i know is what i know. if you didnt notice, i left it vaguely open because of the fact that its just info i heard. i havent been bored to the point that id research it myself. nor do i really care. this is just what i heard, and what ive noticed.

also, the molecule discussion, was what i had learnt in school, sooo, blame the education sys, not me. dont be a douche bag. READ what i wrote, not skim it
 
Are the hormones that control hunger/satiety really proteins? AFAIK, they are mostly based on fatty acids, anandamide for instance. Reference would be appreciated. :)
 
smokeweed69, I did read what you wrote. From it, it was evident that what you were saying was incorrect, for reasons that I have already explained, and that you did not understand the meaning of the words "chemical" or "molecule", and so I explained them to you. You obviously do not know what you think you did, because what you have posted in this thread is incorrect. If you do not want what you say to be critiqued or argued with, do not post it in a public forum that exists for that very reason. There is no need whatsoever for abusive language, cut it out. You are not making a good first impression.

Leptin
Ghrelin
Those are the main two hormones responsible from what I gather.
 
again.. what i know is what i know. never said it was all right. my interest is in vehicles, not the know how behind my weed. my brother in law just said what he had learned, and i just said what i thought was right on chemicals and molecules.. again.. doesnt mean its right. just what i learnt in school. he never said he looked deep into either.. but nope, thats fine, point out thats its ONLY me.. and whatever. but do understand this.. look at what you said, and try to understand why im mad. using "abusive" language.. i deal with people talking down to me day in and day out.. i dont take kindly to it when im not at work..
 
Well, sw69, if you stick around this site, I can guarantee that your understanding of scientific concepts, and the way that they specifically apply to cannabis, will improve. I wasn't talking down to you, I was just explaining why what you claimed was wrong. If I came across as rude, I apologise, but it was probably because you were taking a similar attitude with other posters. Anyway, if you've anything more to say to me specifically, please do so by sending me a PM (you can do this by clicking on my username), let's try and leave this thread to fruitful discussion.

In a sense, what you said was right; there is a naturally occurring molecule that is shaped like THC (in the relevant ways) enough that THC fits into the same sites as it. However, it's not just a "hunger molecule", it has a whole host of effects.
 
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I read somewhere that some of the active chemicals in marijuana mess with your brains receptors for blood sugar levels and it fools your brain into thinking you have low blood sugar, which makes you hungry.
 
Sega420 said:
hunger molecule? OP wtf are you on about.
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Yerg it was this guy and you who came off rude to the op. Why? idk that's something to ask yourselfs.

Anyway like someone mentioned above that there are more canabanoids or what ever it is that counteracts hunger levels More then the ones the makes you hungry is something I've noticed. I don't get hungry long aftermy high goes away.
 
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