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"starseed" scam?

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AcidRainDrops

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I dont usually post on BL but i cant seem to find anything proving or dis-proving anything that has to do with this uh.. religion. Its not that I am searching for some sort of spiritual awakening but my mom really buys into this stuff. SO much that she even spent like 45 dollars for a 15 min clip of one of their experts giving a "reading" on her personal life. Please im not a troll, anything that you can find out that can challenge this ideology would be greatly appreciated. I realize that to most it is such a blatant scam that it does not need dis-proving. Or hell if you CAN find some sort of proof that is a source not someone making money off of it, that would be helpful as well.

Thank you to anyone who can shed some light. ARD
 
The term starseed is a new age type term that some identify with... myself included. All it basically means is that you believe that there are many universes/planets out there and that souls reincarnate and that your soul connects to and identifies with those other worlds. Basically that some or all of your past lives were not on the planet earth. All of those thoughts fit within my spirituality but it isn't a religion for me... just my thoughts on how the universe works. It's just an idea, a theory.

I don't really understand what is happening with your mom, honestly. I've been on new age forums and what not for years, I've done a lot of reading about spiritual topics and never have I spent any money on anything. So if your mom is choosing to, that is her own thing and doesn't really have to do with anything else.

Why are you so upset your mom is exploring her spirituality? Regardless of my beliefs or your own I can tell you that challenging and attempting to de-bunk another person's spirituality will not work...

It's not a "scam"... it is an idea. Some people use ideas and other peoples sensitivity to them to make money and that is nothing new. That in itself doesn't mean that it's a scam, it's just someone doing something for money.

I say leave mom alone and let her do her own thing. People spend 45 dollars on the stupidest of shit all the time, so even if her reading was meaningless and made up, it isn't the end of the world. She's a big girl, no?
 
I had no idea what this term meant, but I often thought that if reincarnation were to be possible, and that if every one's 'soul"(for lack of a better term) is the same age (as old as consciousness itself), then it would be impossible for all of these souls to be tied to the earth and the earth alone.
The idea that life exists everywhere that it can exist has often appealed to me, so this is just a spiritual extension of that position.
I never heard of this term before, these are just thoughts that I've had on my own.
I wouldn't buy any reading from anyone, though, but I can see being interested in it.
I believe any sort of exploitation of spirituality for money is a scam to some degree, so I can see where you're coming from.
 
Yeah. Spending money is so silly and unnecessary. Especially when there are endless pages out there filled with various opinions, theories, spiritual thoughts, etc. People who spend money are honestly quite susceptible and weak minded... please don't take offense, I mean no disrespect to your mother.

I suggest, if you are worried your mom is being taken advantage of, talking to her about the fact that she need not spend money to explore her spirituality like this. But don't attack her spirituality itself, that will get you nowhere. I can link you some good forums that are based around the starseed/indigo children/new age concepts if you would like to forward them to your mom. Lots of info and reading for her for FREE. Or just explain to her that anyone who tells her she needs to spend money to find something about herself is full of shit.

Everything she needs to explore her own spirituality is within her and anyone trying to manipulate her into thinking otherwise is likely a predator...
 
ARD: She's the mother and you're the child. There's not really anything you can do. I say this from experience. The last time I talked to my own mother, she had been listening nightly to crazy-talk late night AM radio, as in Coast to Coast with Geo Noory, Art Bell, and others like them.

She buys into every scam their guests sell, spending a large portion of her social security check on this garbage every month. She is really into the alien stuff. I imagine she would buy into Starseed as well, though this is the first I've heard of it. But along those lines, she sees alien UFOs. She is convinced that space aliens are landing in her back yard, even asking/telephoning all of the neighbors if they have seen her flying saucers land late in the night before....
 
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MynameisnotDeja said:
The term starseed is a new age type term that some identify with... myself included. All it basically means is that you believe that there are many universes/planets out there and that souls reincarnate and that your soul connects to and identifies with those other worlds. Basically that some or all of your past lives were not on the planet earth. All of those thoughts fit within my spirituality but it isn't a religion for me... just my thoughts on how the universe works. It's just an idea, a theory.

I don't really understand what is happening with your mom, honestly. I've been on new age forums and what not for years, I've done a lot of reading about spiritual topics and never have I spent any money on anything. So if your mom is choosing to, that is her own thing and doesn't really have to do with anything else.

Why are you so upset your mom is exploring her spirituality? Regardless of my beliefs or your own I can tell you that challenging and attempting to de-bunk another person's spirituality will not work...

It's not a "scam"... it is an idea. Some people use ideas and other peoples sensitivity to them to make money and that is nothing new. That in itself doesn't mean that it's a scam, it's just someone doing something for money.

I say leave mom alone and let her do her own thing. People spend 45 dollars on the stupidest of shit all the time, so even if her reading was meaningless and made up, it isn't the end of the world. She's a big girl, no?
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maybe i came across wrong by putting the word scam in the title. I have no problem with her exploring her spirituality. I also dont KNOW that what she is into is a scam. Hence the asking for info.

Yes she is a grown woman and I realize she can do what she wants, but I feel like she has not researched this ideology in anyway other then websites selling her something. I have also had a hard time finding sites with good info that also ARE NOT trying to sell me their product. She is the mother, but i am no child.

Im not trying to manipulate her faith, rather try to find something that i can present to her that will challenge it. I always like having my faith challenged, because i always learn from it. And she is the same way, what i am trying to do is not of a hostile nature. I am not some hard nosed christian trying to show her my god is the only god, i dont subscribe to a religion. But saying that she is my elder there for I shouldn't try to make sure she isn't led on by a scam is just not something im willing to accept. It's not like she has money to blow either.

Thank you for taking the time to respond, and MNIND if you wouldnt mind linking me to some forums with info with a discussion about the subject and not a lecture on it, that would be greatly appreciated. ARD
 
www.indigosociety.com

That is one of my favorite forums. It has trolling, arguments and bullshit on it just like any forum, but there are some good discussions there and it would be a good place for someone going down this path to possibly join. I've always felt able to talk openly about my experiences and thoughts there, however strange they may be.
 
What's an indigo?

ARD: I wasn't implying that you are a child and meant no offense. What I was trying to say is that because she is your mother (you're her son/daughter), there's probably nothing you can do or say that will change her mind or challenge her faith. People just can't influence their parents on that level. You can be an MD, PhD, and highly educated and an expert in exposing scams, but, because she is the one who changed your diapers, she's probably not going to be very open. It might be better to find another relative (her age or older) or family friend to try this.
 
socko said:
What's an indigo?

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An indigo is a spoilt brat that probably has adhd but whose hippy parents didnt put them in ritalin but instead bought them a painting set and took them to a few crystal healing drumming festivals.
 
People just can't influence their parents on that level
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disagree

it really depends on the relation you've had with you're parents so far
how they are. how you are
 
vegan said:
disagree

it really depends on the relation you've had with you're parents so far
how they are. how you are
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That's interesting... I'm skeptical, but I should qualify my first posts with this disclosure: I have never had a good relationship with my parents. Not even as a small child due to certain issues.
 
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webbykevin said:
An indigo is a spoilt brat that probably has adhd but whose hippy parents didnt put them in ritalin but instead bought them a painting set and took them to a few crystal healing drumming festivals.
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this is a littel extreme. im sure there are many people who are deluded enough to think they are indigo for all kinds of dumb reasons.. but that doesnt mean that the idea isnt real, and that they arnt really out there.
 
Yes, but an ant with a soul is still just an ant.

And if anyone offers you "the truth" and expects you to pay for it, run a mile.

Salvation is free.
 
socko
i have a good relation with my parents
they know i have a strong personality and trust me

they also had the same prejudices against drugs as anyone else

i told them everything
i told them why i felt it was so important for me to tell them about my convictions

i told them about 5-MeO-DMT trips and feeling universal consciousness on ayahuasca
they listened without saying "yes, but..."

of course it's all a bit hard to swallow when you've never touched psychedelics
so i won't pretend that i convinced them that what i had lived was "true"

but if someone mentions any of these subjects, i'm sure that they'll say "my son thinks the same way / has experienced the same thing" without any fear of appearing ridicule

they may not claim these convictions for others to hear, but when they're with me, they'll tend to believe me
and when they are not, they still remember that it's what i claim
and because they trust me, they don't reject the ideas, whereas if they had heard them from someone else they probably would dismiss them

and this is only about the oddest points
when it comes to telling them that 2 hours on ayahuasca had more effects than going to a shrink for 20 years, they simply accept and acknowledge it
 
yougeekay said:
this is a littel extreme. im sure there are many people who are deluded enough to think they are indigo for all kinds of dumb reasons.. but that doesnt mean that the idea isnt real, and that they arnt really out there.
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Yes, exactly, thank you. My parents never declared me an indigo or anything of that nature. I found the concept as an adult and it resonated with me. It's a fitting description of a certain stage of psychic awakening and development. Everyone will go through the indigo stage at some point, it's just a matter of when.

And if anyone offers you "the truth" and expects you to pay for it, run a mile.

Salvation is free.
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Absolutely!
 
The term starseed is a new age type term that some identify with... myself included. All it basically means is that you believe that there are many universes/planets out there and that souls reincarnate and that your soul connects to and identifies with those other worlds. Basically that some or all of your past lives were not on the planet earth.
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As long as it's FREE and and NOT cult-like, I don't see any harm in it. What does the starseed community think of being incarnated on this planet in this era? Is it a favorable or an unfavorable birth? For many people (considering the extent of world poverty, environmental degradation, widespread mentality of greed, selfishness, consumerism, bad parents, etc), this has got to be a Hell World. I'm curious about what they think.

Vegan: 5-MeO-DMT I agree is interesting stuff. I don't know how to interpret much of it, that is, how much of the experience comes from within versus how much is external (i.e. Terrance McKenna). Anyway whatever it is, it helped me with a few things as well.
 
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