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Poppy Seed Tea...

Exactly crankinit. You'll find most supermarket seeds will have a distinct *edge* to them, and keep you awake. I can only assume its the thebaine that remains after they're washed. Not very fun.
 
The thebaine would be a concern, it is potentially harmful. Not sure how much you would be getting from seed tea though as it is not a major alkaloid of the poppy... except for some of those Tasmanian poppies. :\
 
And IIRC the seeds come from Tasmanian poppies ;)

Of course, it could be any of the trace alkaloids. Its definitely reproducible though.
 
^ There are a heap of alkaloids in p. somniferum. I have a list around somewhere of them, from an old book when just 24 where identified. There are even more alkaloids identified from the plant, whose potential pharmacological profiles have hardly been explored. :)
 
drug_mentor said:
Funny I was just reading something about this shit today, some dude suggested using no less than a kilogram as they are too weak to use less. From memory this person was now using 2 kilos to get high.

This was in Australia so should be relevant, but as you should be aware the strength of batches can vary a lot and it is hard to give people exact amounts to take, there is always the risk that you could have too much.

I think it is best to add some lemon juice when you are soaking the seeds, and you want to 'wash' the seeds atleast twice.

Take what I have said with a grain of salt because despite having read quite a bit on the topic this is one OTC way of getting high I have not personally attempted.
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Hi, I'm pretty sure I am "some dude who suggested using no less than a kilogram". I posted my story on Hip Forums.
Anyhow....I'm still at it...buying a heaps of these little fuckers every second day...getting pretty high the day i buy it and a bit of a buzz off the dregs the next day...: Yesterday i bought 3.3kg (I know, this is getting rediculous). Got wasted last night....and most of today on the dregs. I live in Australia.
I have 3 sources i get them from...2 different organic shops and Woolworths. The best is Santos, an organic health shop.....they sell Tasmanian seeds in bulk for a reasonable price
Hoytes 100grm packets from woolworths are o.k....but you need to buy ten seperate little packets and they have a slight "chemical taste" I sometimes buy a kilo from the organic shop and ten 100 gram packets from woolworths.
Instead of lemons I buy (with say 2kilos of seeds) about 4 bottles of lemon juice (thats four "Berri Lemon Squeeze" 500ml bottles for a cheaper price than lemons) pour a kilo into a 3 or 4 litre container, add room temperature water to just above the seed level and half a botle of lemon juice.....shake as much as you can be bothered to over 40minutes.....drink.....refill, add half a cup of lemon jiuice.....shake and drink. Usually have 2 containers in the go,...each with a kilo in them. .
It works, it gets you high.....but it's not that cheap....i spent alot yesterday on it...(3.3kg).....it's getting rediculous....i'm going to have to go to detox.

anyway: so you sshould be sitting there with two 3 litre containers each with a kilo of seeds, 3/4 full of water and hlf a cup of lemon juic....shake and sit over 40minutes/....strain drink.....refill....i do this all night...and i graduallly get wasted
I'm goin to get another 2 kilos tomorrow....

Anyone know how i can get kratom in australia?

Sorry for my erratic style of story telling....it's late...i wanna go to bed....good night
 
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Cheers for the post Spinfish.

One thing to be wary of for those who read it is the amount that is being consumed. I'd have no doubt that is someone tried to make tea with 3.2kg of unwashed seeds (in another country), they might be at risk of OD'ing. In the interests of harm reduction, remember you can always take more but you can never take less.

And Kratom is illegal in Australia (somewhat unfortunately).
 
Mr Blonde said:
^ There are a heap of alkaloids in p. somniferum. I have a list around somewhere of them, from an old book when just 24 where identified. There are even more alkaloids identified from the plant, whose potential pharmacological profiles have hardly been explored. :)
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's why I said it could be any of the trace alkaloids ;) It's too hard a thing to track down I'd wager, but thebaine is known to have somewhat stimulating properties rather than depressive, hence my guessing. :)
 
Hi Spinfish, I'm new here too but providing sources, brand names and prices of anything (apart from some very obvious harm minimisation apparatus') is against the rules. You may want to edit out those.

Another thing I'd mention would be to stop wasting that kind of money on seeds and spending time when you could get a lot more bang for your buck elsewhere.

Edit: Forgot to add that it's also quite dangerous using so many seeds as potency varies from batch to batch, you can OD on poppy seeds.
 
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^ I've removed the prices, there are no links to vendors and I think in this instance the brand names are okay as identifying which brands are safe to use has some HR value.

I have to agree with opi8 and C_Tripper though, be careful if making poppy seed tea guys. The strength can vary hugely depending on how well the seeds were washed before packing, the poppies, & numerous other variables.

Edit: welcome to bluelight spinfish :)
 
C Tripper said:
's why I said it could be any of the trace alkaloids It's too hard a thing to track down I'd wager, but thebaine is known to have somewhat stimulating properties rather than depressive, hence my guessing.
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Exactly... it's quite possibly either a low dose of morphine/codeine or another alkaloid that we know little about. I would love to extract and isolate the alkaloids from the plant and experiment with them. Who knows, they could be useful building blocks for something, just as thebaine is a useful building block for oxycodone or oxymorphone. :D

I have to agree with opi8 and C_Tripper though, be careful if making poppy seed tea guys. The strength can vary hugely depending on how well the seeds were washed before packing, the poppies, & numerous other variables.
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+1. Especially if you have little to no tolerance, start low. These large doses others are talking about are used with a tolerance, and still potentially dangerous.
 
200 grams with no tolerance is a good starting point...if you don't feel anything they've most likely been washed. As those above me have said, don't underestimate poppy seed tea it can vary in strength a ridiculous amount.

Spinfish - don't let the seeds soak so long in the water/lemon juice. They'd be absorbing heaps of water and you're losing alkaloids. Wouldn't reccomend switching to any other opiates as someone else hinted at...PST has a bit of a limit on how much you can consume at once compared to something like heroin.

Good PST is identical to pods in my experiences. Thebaine and other pesky alkaloids are only a problem if you dose too high (or if they're washed maybe)....you develop a tolerance to thebaine and the other unpleasant alkaloids fairly quickly which is what allows people to take the massive doses of poppy pod/seed tea without getting sick.


In the US a kid died from a strong batch of poppy seed tea and the parents made a website that has some good info on it.

http://www.poppyseedtea.com/Poppy_Tea_Analysis.html

Analysis of the tea found morphine at 259 micrograms per milliliter. That's about 2.5mg in 10mls. Doesn't sound like much but it adds up if you have a couple decent sized cups. They also found benzos in this kids system which would have contributed.

edit - just read the coroners report on that website and he apparently drank two liters of the tea. That's a pretty massive dose.
 
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^ The only place I've found talking about cannabinoids in papaver somniferum is wikipedia and unsourced at that. It could still be true, but I'd like to see something trustworthy talking about.
 
Hi, yeah, I'm new here obviously....thanks for your patience about the prices etc. Yes..by all means...start low and see how ya go. When i prepare 2kilos of it....there ALOT of liquid with that....so i drink it slowly, and sowly get stoned. So the danger is minimized. the other days 3.3 kg's was a bit of a "party" ....That was rediculous....1 kg is plenty if you don't have a tolerance.
As for switching to another cheaper source for opiates....heroin etc ? no thankyou...i wanna get off /cut down on the tea and the last thing I need is a habit of something more serious.
Thanks for the info.
 
Mr Blonde said:
^ The only place I've found talking about cannabinoids in papaver somniferum is wikipedia and unsourced at that. It could still be true, but I'd like to see something trustworthy talking about.
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Yeah you're right... zero decent sources. Even my post came up on the first page of a 'cannabinoid poppy' google.
 
Christ!- "Spinfish - don't let the seeds soak so long in the water/lemon juice. They'd be absorbing heaps of water and you're losing alkaloids. Wouldn't reccomend switching to any other opiates as someone else hinted at...PST has a bit of a limit on how much you can consume at once compared to something like heroin. " - quote from "Christ!"

So how long should I let the seeds soak? I'm got a new batch sitting now....gonna start srinking it after 30minutes. About the seeds soaking up alkaloids.....i'm refilling (re- washing) countless times and getting higher and higher as i go ...the first day....then going to bed and letting them sit in water and lemon overnight and getting a buzz the next day.....not as strong as the first 3 washes , but definetely a buzz.
How long should I let them sit the first time round ( while shaking every now and then) for the strongest effect?
 
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Spinfish said:
So how long should I let the seeds soak?
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Let it soak while shaking for 5 minutes max. (I used to only let it soak for 2-3 minutes but sounds like you're using a large amount of seed)

Everytime you let it soak too long the seeds are absorbing a fair bit of that tea, which you might be losing even with repeated long soaks. It's crazy how much water those little seeds can absorb!

1. So 5 minutes soak with shaking (don't use hot water just room temp/lukewarm)
2. Drain into a cup
3. As soon as it's done draining add more water/lemon juice for the second wash
4. 5 minutes soak with shaking
5. Drain into cup.

The reason for repeating the 'wash' ASAP is because there's a good amount of tea left on the outside of the seeds, this will get soaked up if you leave it too long. Think about the surface area of those millions of seeds! Lots of places for water to chill out until the seeds start gobbling it up.


You can repeat it as many times as you want but you'll get most of the good stuff in those first two extractions.

Keep in mind the tea will be stronger than usual since the seeds won't be absorbing as much. Let us know how you go.

Hope you have a good vacuum cleaner or dust buster. If you hit the seeds hard enough for long enough those little things will drive you crazy :) Remember finding them in my belly button, hair, in keyboard, bags etc. and I was pretty careful about not spilling them.
 
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Spinfish said:
Hi, I'm pretty sure I am "some dude who suggested using no less than a kilogram". I posted my story on Hip Forums.
Anyhow....I'm still at it...buying a heaps of these little fuckers every second day...getting pretty high the day i buy it and a bit of a buzz off the dregs the next day...: Yesterday i bought 3.3kg (I know, this is getting rediculous). Got wasted last night....and most of today on the dregs. I live in Australia.
I have 3 sources i get them from...2 different organic shops and Woolworths. The best is Santos, an organic health shop.....they sell Tasmanian seeds in bulk for a reasonable price
Hoytes 100grm packets from woolworths are o.k....but you need to buy ten seperate little packets and they have a slight "chemical taste" I sometimes buy a kilo from the organic shop and ten 100 gram packets from woolworths.
Instead of lemons I buy (with say 2kilos of seeds) about 4 bottles of lemon juice (thats four "Berri Lemon Squeeze" 500ml bottles for a cheaper price than lemons) pour a kilo into a 3 or 4 litre container, add room temperature water to just above the seed level and half a botle of lemon juice.....shake as much as you can be bothered to over 40minutes.....drink.....refill, add half a cup of lemon jiuice.....shake and drink. Usually have 2 containers in the go,...each with a kilo in them. .
It works, it gets you high.....but it's not that cheap....i spent alot yesterday on it...(3.3kg).....it's getting rediculous....i'm going to have to go to detox.

anyway: so you sshould be sitting there with two 3 litre containers each with a kilo of seeds, 3/4 full of water and hlf a cup of lemon juic....shake and sit over 40minutes/....strain drink.....refill....i do this all night...and i graduallly get wasted
I'm goin to get another 2 kilos tomorrow....

Anyone know how i can get kratom in australia?

Sorry for my erratic style of story telling....it's late...i wanna go to bed....good night
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LOL yep you are the bloke I was referring to funnily enough. Cheers for taking the time to share your experiences over here as well, and welcome to Bluelight.
 
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