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Warning: Sniffer dogs at london tube stations
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Once again, from the Mets OWN website http://www.met.police.uk/stopandsearch/your_rights.htm
What are my rights?
Here's a basic rundown of rights that protect you:
The officers searching you must use the stop and search powers fairly, responsibly and with respect for people without discriminating
If English is not your first language, and you do not understand why you have been stopped, reasonable steps must be taken to provide you with information in your own language
The officer must make sure that the search time is kept to a minimum
The search must take place near where you are stopped, except in instances where moving you would protect your privacy
The officer does not have the power to stop you in order to find grounds for a search
A more comprehensive site to all your rights when you are stopped and searched is contained in the Home Office website.
Don’t forget that the stop or stop and search must be carried out according to strict rules – the police have responsibility to ensure that people’s rights are protected. Everyone should expect to be treated fairly and responsibility. In almost all cases, an individual should be given a record of the stop or stop and search at the time it happens. The police use these powers to help make the local community safer by disrupting crime – public co-operation is an essential part of that.
What are my rights?
Here's a basic rundown of rights that protect you:
The officers searching you must use the stop and search powers fairly, responsibly and with respect for people without discriminating
If English is not your first language, and you do not understand why you have been stopped, reasonable steps must be taken to provide you with information in your own language
The officer must make sure that the search time is kept to a minimum
The search must take place near where you are stopped, except in instances where moving you would protect your privacy
The officer does not have the power to stop you in order to find grounds for a search
A more comprehensive site to all your rights when you are stopped and searched is contained in the Home Office website.
Don’t forget that the stop or stop and search must be carried out according to strict rules – the police have responsibility to ensure that people’s rights are protected. Everyone should expect to be treated fairly and responsibility. In almost all cases, an individual should be given a record of the stop or stop and search at the time it happens. The police use these powers to help make the local community safer by disrupting crime – public co-operation is an essential part of that.
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Where Wolf?
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Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but it's not just the tube: there are sniffers at Clapham Junction mainline station generally at least once a week, according to a mate who commutes through daily, and I've seen them there a few times on my way to score. Unfortunately, my one source of high-grade weed lives a short walk from Clapham Junction - so I've got into the habit of blowing £20 on a cab home, although it takes twice as long as the train.
Just over a year ago, the day after dumping a gf who'd mind-gamed me almost to death, I took a few days off work and went to pick up around noon, basically to stop myself from going on the piss and doing something stupid (calling her). Arriving in Clapham, there was no sign of filth or mutts at the station - coming back with a half of some killer skunk strain in my bag, I notice, as I'm about to walk up to the station, that there's a line of plod with dogs searching black kids just outside the entrance. Must have been a squad of 12 officers, with a fair few mutts. And I was already headed towards them, so didn't seem a good idea to turn around - I'm fairly dark-skinned, being half Sephardi (the dark-skinned kind of Jew), and one of the plod had clocked me, and looked a little too interested for comfort, so reversing course might well have led to him searching me.
So I just kept walking, right past the dogs, silently praying: and made to the taxi rank just up from the main entrance. A black cab in mid-day traffic made it the most expensive half oz of my life, but better that than losing the weed and possibly getting a caution. Would have been just perfect - break-up one day, arrest the next - but they were too busy pushing the black kids up against shop windows to bother hassling a mere kike like me.
Much as I hate the Tories, there's some hope the libertarian tendency in the coalition will at least stop this kind of bullshit harassment from increasing, but it seems to just be part of London life now. In general, if carrying quantity, just take cabs if remotely affordable, or drive if that's an option - the Met'll do anything, however petty, to boost their arrest stats. They know it's bullshit - I know a fairly senior copper who still smokes from time to time, and turns a blind eye to simple possession - but the culture of 'arrest targets' sort of forces it on them. Also, they get DNA samples off of petty offenders - and statistically, a small % of them will go on to commit violent crimes, so I think the plan is to arrest as widely as possible, to get people on the database.
And to think, MPs once argued that 'traditional British liberty' meant that no drug should be 'prescription only', let alone illegal to possess.
I don't like this planet. Someone build me a spaceship.
Just over a year ago, the day after dumping a gf who'd mind-gamed me almost to death, I took a few days off work and went to pick up around noon, basically to stop myself from going on the piss and doing something stupid (calling her). Arriving in Clapham, there was no sign of filth or mutts at the station - coming back with a half of some killer skunk strain in my bag, I notice, as I'm about to walk up to the station, that there's a line of plod with dogs searching black kids just outside the entrance. Must have been a squad of 12 officers, with a fair few mutts. And I was already headed towards them, so didn't seem a good idea to turn around - I'm fairly dark-skinned, being half Sephardi (the dark-skinned kind of Jew), and one of the plod had clocked me, and looked a little too interested for comfort, so reversing course might well have led to him searching me.
So I just kept walking, right past the dogs, silently praying: and made to the taxi rank just up from the main entrance. A black cab in mid-day traffic made it the most expensive half oz of my life, but better that than losing the weed and possibly getting a caution. Would have been just perfect - break-up one day, arrest the next - but they were too busy pushing the black kids up against shop windows to bother hassling a mere kike like me.
Much as I hate the Tories, there's some hope the libertarian tendency in the coalition will at least stop this kind of bullshit harassment from increasing, but it seems to just be part of London life now. In general, if carrying quantity, just take cabs if remotely affordable, or drive if that's an option - the Met'll do anything, however petty, to boost their arrest stats. They know it's bullshit - I know a fairly senior copper who still smokes from time to time, and turns a blind eye to simple possession - but the culture of 'arrest targets' sort of forces it on them. Also, they get DNA samples off of petty offenders - and statistically, a small % of them will go on to commit violent crimes, so I think the plan is to arrest as widely as possible, to get people on the database.
And to think, MPs once argued that 'traditional British liberty' meant that no drug should be 'prescription only', let alone illegal to possess.
I don't like this planet. Someone build me a spaceship.
d1989
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It shouldn't be hard to train to smell for meph, even i can smell it a mile off!
Crack4Lyfe
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parttime crackhead
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I don't know if the law is different in Scotland or if this has changed in the couple of years since I was last searched by the police. Not one of those things has ever been done, there's never been any explanation given, if asked why the answer has either been "routine search" or "I think you've got something on you", no rights have ever been read, no inspectors names or paperwork have ever been given. When I was younger we used to get searched by the police very regularly (just due to being daft wee boys out drinking underage) & none of that shit has ever happened.
jancrow
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I got searched a few times as a kid as did loads of my mates and they just took the piss because we were kids and not wise to procedure. Socks and shoes off in the street in the pissing rain, people stripped in the back of vans and the like. A favourite was always 'there have been a number of thefts from vehicles reported in this area and you fit the suspect's description' which was always a bit of a joke among my friends as a whole load of us wore pretty outlandish gear. Which I suppose was probably why we pigued their interest.
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If they do, it wouldn't be as worthwhile because it's so open. Tube stations have natural bottlenecks to funnel and panic people. If you're worried on a bus, you can just stay put until the next stop.
Bringing them on the bus would be a step too far for people afraid of dogs I think.
Bringing them on the bus would be a step too far for people afraid of dogs I think.
Also, if you're on a bus & you SEE whats going on, you got time to remove any offending items & sling 'em under someone elses seat! Lol
I personally have never seen sniffers on a bus in greater London, but then, last week was the first time I saw sniffers ever!
I personally have never seen sniffers on a bus in greater London, but then, last week was the first time I saw sniffers ever!
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parttime crackhead
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They were stopping buses on the way to t in the park & charging on with sniffer dogs one year. That's a bit different from standard public transport though.
It's all about money. get as many section 5, 80quid fines as possible. This is their main thing now. Went to post office with the wife popped into cake shop bought some goodies, walked out of shop on to busy sunny road, to see a meat waggon slam on, dragged me in their den of intimidation. (pathetic backseat kicking) Anyway they tell me on this bright sunny afternoon that they are treating me this way because of "wait for it" guns, yes f/king guns. So i said bollocks your talking shite so the driver says f/k it i don;t like him anyway section 5 the c**t.
So of we went the wife standing on the busy pavement watching the van drive away not knowing what the f/k is happening. I saw her 2 hours later back home. Seems when they got me in front of the desk searg they told him i was swearing at the public, with threatening behaviour and i seemed a threat to their safety aswell as the pulic. Can you f/king adam and eve these pricks.
So DNA swab, fingers scan, new picture and 80 quid fine for f/k all. The bizzy who let me out said to me " we are not all bad in here" which told me i KNOW you were shit on by the police and had infact done nothing wrong. Yes i know my story is common but still pisses me off.
When i was a kid i lived by the football ground (everton) so match day there was plenty of cars parked in my street. Well this one car it was a mini, the driver was of to the match and asked me would i fill a plastic container up with water for him (he gave me the container) and leave it under the drivers door. His car over heats and needed the water for when he got back. So i did the good dead and earned a cookie in heavens eyes
Well just after placing the container under the car the police role up jump out tells me i was breaking into the parked cars and they saw me trying to breakin to the mini. Gets carted off and charged. Well my brother saw the owner of the car after the match arriving to his car. So my brother runs over tells him the story of what went down.
Turns out he was a marksman for the police as in trains the police into the professional use of firarms. At court the case was dropped, first appearance. Thankfully went my way for once.
Sadly down hill ever since
They took you to COURT for attempting to break into a car that you werent breaking into? Fuck in hell, talk about a waste of time! It must be much harder than I thought to actually catch real crims, eh?
4 crazy fucking fanatics got onto our transport service nearly 6 years ago, & blew themselves & dozens of innocents people to bits. Turns out some of these psychopathic cunts had been survieled by Police but they didnt have the resources to watch all of them, all of the time... Well, ummmm, it aint fucking rocket science! Stop fuck-arsing about hassling otherwise innocent drug users & spend the money keeping suicide squads off our fucking streets & trains. Jesus Christ!
The system sucks LARGE & I for one wont stop bitching about it until it changes!
4 crazy fucking fanatics got onto our transport service nearly 6 years ago, & blew themselves & dozens of innocents people to bits. Turns out some of these psychopathic cunts had been survieled by Police but they didnt have the resources to watch all of them, all of the time... Well, ummmm, it aint fucking rocket science! Stop fuck-arsing about hassling otherwise innocent drug users & spend the money keeping suicide squads off our fucking streets & trains. Jesus Christ!
The system sucks LARGE & I for one wont stop bitching about it until it changes!
parttime crackhead
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Surely you're not going to pay that fine??? I would have told them in the station that there's no chance I'm paying a fine for doing fuck all.
Mate of mine, now living abroad got into all sortsa shit, just from living with a buncha gangster crack dealers. He was the get twatted sort but never in any real trouble, jus got caught up in the shit going on in his house y'know. Police just knew him, so he was always getting the old "...reason to believe/fit the description" shite & having bits of this & that nicked off him...
Finally he moved somewhere much quieter & started a couple plants up... Surprise surprise, one day, completely outta the blue, the roz comes knocking, looking for some bloke my mate Pete doesn't even know! Thing is, he's just cut his two plants & has been sitting on the bed trimming them. He wasnt expecting Police at the door, & his own door had been left slightly open as he'd gone to answer the door. Anyway, the roz knock on this blokes door, not in, & as they're leaving one leans his hand towards Petes door & says, "who lives here then..?".
Lol Needless to say, he got a "cultivating with intent" (harvest of about 16 ounces, roughly) & a £100 fine, mainly coz he'd been caught up in previous druggy stuff that had nothing to with him & been through multiple stop/search/confiscations... Anyway, he never paid the fine & moved shortly afterwards. They just "lost" him!
Finally he moved somewhere much quieter & started a couple plants up... Surprise surprise, one day, completely outta the blue, the roz comes knocking, looking for some bloke my mate Pete doesn't even know! Thing is, he's just cut his two plants & has been sitting on the bed trimming them. He wasnt expecting Police at the door, & his own door had been left slightly open as he'd gone to answer the door. Anyway, the roz knock on this blokes door, not in, & as they're leaving one leans his hand towards Petes door & says, "who lives here then..?".
Lol Needless to say, he got a "cultivating with intent" (harvest of about 16 ounces, roughly) & a £100 fine, mainly coz he'd been caught up in previous druggy stuff that had nothing to with him & been through multiple stop/search/confiscations... Anyway, he never paid the fine & moved shortly afterwards. They just "lost" him!
d1989
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I still have never seen sniffer dogs at any stations, although i often see a dog unit van parked outside london bridge