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No, i'd say that's a pretty dumb idea, a better bet would be to take it orally or plug it, if it's freebase you can smoke it I think. The HCL is more water soluble so it might work snorted actually, but it's not a good way to take amt, I wouldn't think.

50mg is quite a lot to take for the first time etc, probably about 15-20mg first time would give you a better idea of what to expect. I find the feeling of "threshold" tripping from amt a bit restless and weird though, so perhaps a bit higher might be more rewarding.

Gona try aMT again soon, I still have some of that stinky freebase from ages ago. Will probably try plugging it when it's nicer weather, and fairly early on in the day. Previous experiences i've really enjoyed mega low doses of it just for the lovely tingleyness and euphoria, n amazing mood boost. At about 15mg the proper psychedelic effects were a bit too borderline and I didn't feel that comfortable, especially as it was evening and I was stuck indoors.
 
Ok thankyou, I appreciate your input, perhaps it would be better if I start at a bit of a lower dose, how long is the 'come up'? Start at 25mgs I can always drop more! How much water would be suffecient for plugging 25mgs? Any help would be much appreciated, thanks h
 
I don't think you'd need loads, but if using freebase aMT you might find it doesn't dissolve so easily, in which case adding a very small amount of white vinegar is meant to help iirc?

Give it a go dissolving in just plain water though first, maybe in a ml or two of water or something? Using more liquid wouldn't make plugging it much simpler hah.
 
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Sorry it just pisses me off when people refuse to use scales. I'm only trying to offer you advice that'll make you as safe as possible.

My £20 scales have lasted about two years now and they might not be great for weighing out really potent drugs but they'd do the job for aMT. Maybe you've just been unlucky.
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My cheap 20 quid scales claimed to measure to the nearest 1 to 2 mg and probably managed to the nearest 4mg for sure.

I was able to check them by using the supplied calibration weights as well as measuring something, going away, coming back and checking it still weighed the same after the scales had turned off, cooled down and turned back on again.

I never had any problems with it, and whilst it wasn't really great if you needed to measure something around 5mg in weight, once you got up to 10mg and above it really did offer a decent amount of security in terms of knowing for sure you hadn't somehow fucked up and double dossed yourself. Having a gram of something like MDMA and being able to take a repeat dose of 120mg every time rather than somewhere between 100 and 140mg (depending on your eyeballing skills) is also a pleasant bonus, although safety is less of an issue here.

So i could take (hypothetically speaking) approximately 15mg of 2ce and be pretty sure it wasn't 20mg and damn sure it wasn't any more than that. This can be the difference between a fun trip and a nightmare scenario with some drugs (like 2ce for example).

I would definitely say that even cheap scales (if you get the right ones) are worth getting in terms of safety and also just the handiness of being able to repeat fairly exactly previously taken doses of whatever.
 
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So it's gonna be my first amt experience tomorrow, any do's or don'ts. Starting at 50mgs because people say the threshold effects are a bit undisiarable!
 
Acidtek said:
So it's gonna be my first amt experience tomorrow, any do's or don'ts. Starting at 50mgs because people say the threshold effects are a bit undisiarable!
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50mg seems fairly high for a first time, especially if you're using freebase. I always found (when using hcl) that around 35-45mg was perfect for my needs. The first time I tried it I started really low -at around 15-20mg- and I did find the threshold effects a bit awkward (very little in the way of negative effects, but no distinctly positive ones to outweigh them). I think you can afford to reduce your dose a little without risking being underwhelmed, AMT can be sublime enough without having to go all-out.

Other than that though all I would suggest is that you don't leave it too late to dose, as you may end up being unable to sleep when physical and mental exhaustion start to set in. I'd suggest you try to make sure you've dosed at least ten to twelve hours before you'd like to be in bed.
 
50mg for a first experience sounds mental, tbh.

I'm wondering about the quality of the AMT out there, as the stuff I had 3-4 years ago would get me fairly smashed, in a vaguely MDMA way, at 20-25 mg. YMMV, but it's always best to start low with a new compound. You could always top up by smoking a small amount (5-10mg) if you find it's not getting you were you want to be.

The come up can be long too, sometimes 2+ hours to reach a peak (orally), and even smoking it you can be waiting 30-60 mins for it to develop properly.
 
Obviously batches vary, but 50mg is too much for a first-time. I'd suggest 20-30mg at most if you're determined to break through beyond threshold effects (which some people find annoyingly vague but I think it's a pleasant way to spend a day). As another poster mentioned though, always best to start low.

As for the come-up, plugging will avoid the nausea, but it's going to be a loooonggg come up. No way of avoiding that. I suggest pairing it with some decent weed. Enjoy.
 
Hey guys,

I'm planning on plugging some aMT freebase. Only problem is I don't have any white vinegar, which seems to be the preferred easy method of getting this stuff to dissolve into a solution.

So I guess I'm asking is there anything else I might have in my house that could could take white vinegars place?

Why is malt/brown vinegar no good?
 
White (spirit) vinegar is acetic acid. Brown/Cider/Malt vinegar is acetic acid and bits of plants and preservatives and things.

Go to your local supermarket and get some, its about 50p. :)
 
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Medi57 said:
White (spirit) vinegar is acetic acid. Brown/Cider/Malt vinegar is acetic acid and bits of plants and preservatives and things.

Go to your local supermarket and get some, its about 50p. :)
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Cheers for the response.:) Problem is I'm looking to plug this asap. Local shops closed and I've had too much to drink to drive.

I found this clear distilled malt vinegar. Ingredients: Distilled malt vinegar. 5% Acidity. This any good?
 
I'm now doubting my vendor is selling proper amt, what I had was supposed to be freebase and it was an yellow tan colour, but it didn't smell of a anything really and from reading this thread I've heard it was ment to properly stink! I took 60mgs in two 30mg bombs and I did have a nice positive glowing feeling but it by no means put me on my ass. It's strange because I have been getting mxe from the same vendor and the quality has always been good
 
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Cheers for the response.:) Problem is I'm looking to plug this asap. Local shops closed and I've had too much to drink to drive.

I found this clear distilled malt vinegar. Ingredients: Distilled malt vinegar. 5% Acidity. This any good?
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A bit late but yes that would be fine, just make sure you dissolve as much as possible into solution and ensure the temperature is ~38°C to minimise the chance of it being 'flushed out'
 
Acidtek said:
I'm now doubting my vendor is selling proper amt, what I had was supposed to be freebase and it was an yellow tan colour, but it didn't smell of a anything really and from reading this thread I've heard it was ment to properly stink! I took 60mgs in two 30mg bombs and I did have a nice positive glowing feeling but it by no means put me on my ass. It's strange because I have been getting mxe from the same vendor and the quality has always been good
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I just got some light tan aMT freebase today. I can smell that distinctive mothball smell just it's not very wiffy. Less than the grey HCl I used to get even. I've had the tan freebase once before and found it very strong despite that - here's hoping.

Think I might try an anti-depressant dose and see what happens.




*EDIT* - tan freebase I have has certainly given me a nice moodlift at 6mg with some changes to perception. So fairly strong I'd say :)

I'm sorry to hear your not having better luck Acidtek :(

60mg with only a moodlift seems suspect, even weak aMT should be doing more than that at those sort of doses. YMMV quite a lot, some people never get much in the way of visuals but I'm sure you'd still have a very trippy headspace all the same.

Obvious traits of aMT - should a) smell like mothballs and b) taste like ass ...

It might be worth trying another source and seeing if that makes a difference.
 
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I had some off whitey/tanish powder recently, that didn't smell much and it was some of the best stuff I've had.

Maybe they're using a different synthesis route which produces less of that distinctive smell.

edit: Thanks again medi57.
 
Chatative said:
Think I might try an anti-depressant dose and see what happens.

*EDIT* - tan freebase I have has certainly given me a nice moodlift at 6mg with some changes to perception. So fairly strong I'd say :)
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Hmmm, funny you should mention this as it's something I've been toying with for a while. Probably not the best idea in the world, but I'm always willing to give things a go.

Kinda wanted to resurrect this thread, but it's dead, so maybe some other folk can chip into this one?.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=534778&highlight=amt+antidepressant

I tried 7mg an hour before my 4 hour shift the other day and felt in quite a chipper mood throughout. But did notice the effects getting a lil' bit stronger on my way home. T'is an odd one, but it works nicely for the occasional mood lift.
 
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