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Mods, please accept my apologies if this infringes ADD rules.

I am attempting to make a saline nasal solution and wish to use a buffer solution to maintain a stable PH.

Basically, I want to use hydrochloric and citric acid, as base and conjugate, in distilled water, but I am unsure of what ratio to use.

Again, sorry if this post is against the rules.

Nan
 
Hi There, thanks for your answer.

PH 2.5

This should keep, excuse my limited knowledge, bacteriostatic?
 
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Well, first of all you'll need a base and an acid to make a buffer.
I guess you mean sodium hydroxide instead of hydrochloric acid?
Anyway...you should use sodium hydroxide (NaOH) if you plan on using citric acid (which is a good choice).

Are you using anhydrous citric acid or citric acid monohydrate?
You should use about 3.84 mg of anhydrous citric acid per mL.
If you use the monohydrate, you should use slightly more: 4.2 mg per mL.
Then you just add drops of a natrium hydroxide solution (1 M or 2 M will suffice) until you reach pH 2.5.
However, this is almost impossible to do unless you have an electronic pH-meter.
But if you would have that, I guess you wouldn't be asking this question since you would know how to make a citrate buffer.

Also, a pH of 2.5 is - for your nasal mucous membranes - extremely low and potentially dangerous.
So better leave this kind of work to the pro and stop experimenting.
 
buffers simply lower the slope of the sigmoidal curve, right?
Well, at pH = 2.5 the 'sigma' in sigmoid probably resembles another symbol on my keyboard...
The _ underscore, at 0% viability. ;)

No way bacteria are taking over an essentially closed-off bottle at pH = 2.5
But then again...I'd probably settle for S. Aureus in my nose instead of snorting a pH 2.5 solution. :\
 
Don't know if it helps you, but for a nasal solution you'd want a phosphate buffer with a pH of about 7 to 7.5. It should contain about 0.9% sodium chloride as well. The easiest way is to use PBS (phosphate buffered saline) tablets, if you can get them.

Your citrate buffer would be pretty bacteriostatic, but certainly very uncomfortable to use in the form of a nasal spray/solution.
 
I think the OP may just be saying "nasal solution" for obfuscation. A modification on SWIM perhaps. I wanted to ask a similar question the other day about a commonly available reagent but thought better of it.

Can't you simply take an HCl solution of known concentration and add sufficient sodium citrate to raise the pH to 2.5?
 
Can't you simply take an HCl solution of known concentration and add sufficient sodium citrate to raise the pH to 2.5?
First of all, it is always better to use the strong acid/base to set the pH.
This way you can create a buffer with the desired capacity.
If you would start with a 0.1 M HCl solution and bring this to pH 2.5 with citric acid, your buffer would have a very poor capacity.
...or am I wrong here? (long time since chemistry courses etc.)

Judging by the pKa of citric acid, a buffer set up with HCl will have a low capacity either way.
That's why I adviced to use sodium hydroxide to set your buffer.
 
Thanks 3rd, Acl, 235.
My intention was to make the solution isotonic by the addition of 0.9% saline, yes.
Just to clarify, no obfuscation intended.

Below is an abbreviated transcript from a study I recently read called "Safety of a Preservative-Free Acidified Saline Nasal Spray"

Objective: To determine the safety and tolerance of a
buffered preservative-free acidified solution as an alternative
to standard chemical preservatives to prevent microbial
contamination of saline nasal spray.
Design: Randomized, double-blind, placebocontrolled,
crossover clinical trial.
Setting: Tertiary academic medical center.
Participants: Healthy volunteers with no history or signs
of sinonasal disease.
Interventions: Twenty volunteers used a buffered preservative-
free acidified solution in a saline nasal spray and
a benzalkonium chloride–containing saline nasal spray
for 1 week each, separated by a 1-week washout period.
Main Outcome Measures: At study enrollment and
after using each nasal spray solution, participants completed
a visual analog scale symptom questionnaire and
the 20-Item Sino-Nasal Outcome Test and underwent nasal
endoscopic examination, which was graded using a
modified Lund-Kennedy scoring system. At the end of
each test period, the contents of each nasal spray bottle
were cultured for microorganism growth.
Results: All 20 participants completed the study. Four
participants who developed upper respiratory tract illnesses
during the study period were excluded from secondary
analyses. No differences were observed in specific
sinonasal symptoms or nasal endoscopy findings after
use of either nasal spray. No nasal spray solutions from
either group had any microorganism growth.
Conclusion: In a short-term study with a small sample
size, a preservative-free acidified solution seems to be
safe and well tolerated, while maintaining sterility in
a multiple-dose applicator without use of chemical
preservatives.

The Stanford Institutional Review Board approved this study
before enrollment of study participants. We obtained informed
consent from each study participant in compliance with
national patient privacy guidelines.
We recruited 20 healthy adult (18 years) study participants
without a history of sinonasal disease. We excluded individuals
with active or ongoing nasal or sinus symptoms due
to environmental allergies, upper respiratory tract infections,
or sinusitis. We excluded any participant with abnormal nasal
endoscopy findings at the beginning of the study. We excluded
any participants who were pregnant, participants who
were unable to complete the questionnaire for whatever reason,
and participants who were using any medications related
to the treatment of sinonasal disease (eg, antihistamines, decongestants,
and others).
A compounding pharmacy formulated the PFAS (Leiter’s Rx
Compounding, San Jose, California). The PFAS solution contains
0.9% sodium chloride and citric acid, with hydrochloric
acid added to adjust the pH to 2.5. The pharmacist was responsible
for ensuring that the solution was isotonic. We obtained
the BAKS as an over-the-counter product at a local drugstore.
The BAKS is an isotonic solution containing 0.65% sodium chloride,
benzalkonium chloride, phenylcarbinol, disodium phosphate,
and monosodium phosphate (Ocean Spray; Fleming Pharmaceuticals,
Fenton, Missouri). Both solutions are isotonic,
despite their difference in sodium chloride concentration.
The pharmacist placed equal amounts of the 2 test solutions
in identical glass spray atomizer bottles that had equivalent
standardized dispensing volumes. The pharmacist performed
the randomization, thereby masking us, the study
participants, nasal endoscopist, pathologist, and statistician to
the identity of each nasal spray. We unmasked the data only
after completion of the statistical analysis.
Study participants used one coded nasal spray bottle, with
5 sprays in each nostril twice a day for 7 days. This was followed
by a 7-day washout period during which the participants
did not use either of the nasal sprays. Participants then
used the other coded nasal spray bottle, with 5 sprays in each
nostril twice a day for 7 days. We gave the participants an instruction
sheet to remind them of the dosing regimen. Participants
signed an agreement to follow the dosing regimen exactly.
One of us (W.R.R.) telephoned each participant during
each 1-week period of nasal spray use to remind him or her to
continue use of the nasal spray as instructed. Study participants
were permitted to meet with us on the sixth or eighth
day (in lieu of the seventh) if personal scheduling problems so
required. At each follow-up visit, we confirmed in writing the
participant’s adherence to the regimen.
Participants completed 2 symptom questionnaires and underwent
nasal endoscopy at the following 3 time points during
the test period: on enrollment in the study, after 1 week’s
use of the first test bottle, and after 1 week’s use of the second
test bottle. To assess symptoms, we used an 8-symptom visual
analog scale questionnaire and the 20-Item Sino-Nasal Outcome
Test (SNOT-20).15 The visual analog scale assessed the
following symptoms on a scale ranging from 0 (an absence of
symptoms) to 10 (the highest degree of severity) points: nasal
burning, smell disturbance, taste disturbance, nasal bleeding,
purulent rhinorrhea, facial pain, headache, and sore throat. Participants
were asked to rate the mean level of symptoms for the
prior week. The SNOT-20 assessed 10 nasal-related and sinusrelated
symptoms and 10 psychological and behavioral symptoms
on a scale ranging from 0 (an absence of symptoms) to 5
(the highest degree of severity) points. For statistical analysis,
we used the total score and the nasal and sinus symptom subset
score from the SNOT-20 questionnaire.
We scored the nasal endoscopic findings using a modification
of the method by Lund-Kennedy,16 which scores the following
signs from 0 to 2: polyps (0 indicates none; 1, middle
meatus; and 2, beyond middle meatus), discharge (0, none; 1,
clear and thin; and 2, thick and purulent), edema (0, absent;
1, mild; and 2, severe), scarring or adhesions (0, absent; 1, mild;
and 2, severe), and crusting (0, absent; 1, mild; and 2, severe).
We added a score for erythema (0 indicates absent; 1, mild; and
2, severe). For our analysis, we summed the scores for the right
and left nasal cavities for each sign. Therefore, each sign had a
possible score ranging from 0 (an absence of the abnormal sign)
to 4 (the highest degree of severity, bilaterally). For each participant,
we also calculated a total score for all 6 signs. The nasal
endoscopist was unaware of the symptom questionnaire results
at the time of scoring. Each participant received a $20 coffee
coupon card for completing the study.
At the end of each participant’s weeklong trial of each nasal
spray, we obtained a 1-mL aliquot sample from the bottle
under sterile conditions and plated the aliquot on blood and
chocolate agar culture media dishes. The agars underwent incubation
at 37°C for 72 hours at Stanford Hospital Microbiology
Laboratory (a Clinical Laboratory Improvement Act–
certified laboratory), Stanford, California. A pathologist with
microbiological certification (Niaz Banaei, MD, Clinical Microbiology
Laboratory, Stanford University Medical Center),
masked to the type of nasal spray used, then quantified the colonies
of each of 40 sets of blood and chocolate agars for microorganism
growth and identity.
 
Interesting study, though NSFW tags would have been nice considering the length. ;-P
But you are intending to produce this solution yourself to dissolve a certain compound in?
You should keep in mind that certain chemical bonds (esters and amides, for instance) can easily be hydrolized at a lower pH.
 
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