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Will my doctors or phyc get notified for ER from OD

I am pretty sure only if you on doc shop list
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Not necessarily... they can call up the drugs of dependence unit and see where your scripts for the dexamphetamine and ritalin are coming from, though I am assuming both of those come from the one doctor.

Also I think Medicare would be able to tell them where the scripts are coming from, though it would have been on the bottles I imagine though if you are seeing other doctors then they may have caught that.
 
Wish someone would chime in that knows these things.
Yeah I get dex, rit and loraz from same doc I was found with loraz. I get the Barbs, and clonaz from my GP. I was found with barbs. I told them about my GP not my phyc. I was telling all sorts of stories trying to not get put in the phyc ward or spend another night there.
I think they can only look up meds you get on PBS and I dont get PBS.
 
Mr Blonde said:
Not necessarily... they can call up the drugs of dependence unit and see where your scripts for the dexamphetamine and ritalin are coming from, though I am assuming both of those come from the one doctor.

Also I think Medicare would be able to tell them where the scripts are coming from, though it would have been on the bottles I imagine though if you are seeing other doctors then they may have caught that.
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Drugs of dependance unit? I had no idea such thing existed, always thought it was the TGA they called in such situations.

I can confirm you definately DO NOT have to be on any "doctor shopping" list for them to call and find out what scripts you've filled. After I legitimately misplaced my Ritalin script and went to my psyche asking for another one I got put though all kinds of shit (including being confronted with a running audio recorder as I walked in) having to go down to all the pharmacies I filled at and get full reports printed etc. Brought them back and he still wasnt satisfied and called the TGA whatever it was, 20 secs later knew exactly what, where and when I'd filled my scripts. And I'm not even trying to abuse the system =\

EDIT:: Just read ops most recent post. Fuck me sideways. I need the name of that doctor! o.0

@ OP. How on earth you get both dexies AND ritalin is beyond me. Surely not the same prescribing doctor? I'd say that if shit hits the fan your going to loose both of those rather quickly. Personal opinion only though.
 
Wish someone would chime in that knows these things.
Yeah I get dex, rit and loraz from same doc I was found with loraz. I get the Barbs, and clonaz from my GP. I was found with barbs. I told them about my GP not my phyc. I was telling all sorts of stories trying to not get put in the phyc ward or spend another night there.
I think they can only look up meds you get on PBS and I dont get PBS
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It's hard to get exact information because it really is up to the discretion of the doctors that treated you. Unless an ER doctor posts here and tells us they have a policy to follow in situations like this?

The PBS thing is not true; pharmacies keep a record of everything and have a specific folder (usually big and black) for Schedule VIII drugs... of which you have three apparently (ritalin, dexamphetamine and some barbiturate/s).

Also, I know the QLD DDU keeps track of benzodiazepines and I think codeine/APAP scripts as well.

Like L3inad said, the TGA will also have records.

Drugs of dependance unit? I had no idea such thing existed, always thought it was the TGA they called in such situations.
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QLD has a DDU, I'm sure other states have their own equivalent. I think the doubling of units (i.e. state DDU and TGA records) is because the QLD DDU is dedicated to this task and gets the information quicker and takes some load off the TGA in that regard.

I can try and get some more information tomorrow if you or OP wishes; I can probably find out more about the role of the DDU and the TGA in this regard and how it all works.
 
L3inad said:
Drugs of dependance unit? I had no idea such thing existed, always thought it was the TGA they called in such situations.

I can confirm you definately DO NOT have to be on any "doctor shopping" list for them to call and find out what scripts you've filled. After I legitimately misplaced my Ritalin script and went to my psyche asking for another one I got put though all kinds of shit (including being confronted with a running audio recorder as I walked in) having to go down to all the pharmacies I filled at and get full reports printed etc. Brought them back and he still wasnt satisfied and called the TGA whatever it was, 20 secs later knew exactly what, where and when I'd filled my scripts. And I'm not even trying to abuse the system =\

EDIT:: Just read ops most recent post. Fuck me sideways. I need the name of that doctor! o.0

@ OP. How on earth you get both dexies AND ritalin is beyond me. Surely not the same prescribing doctor? I'd say that if shit hits the fan your going to loose both of those rather quickly. Personal opinion only though.
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That is for S8 meds it is different for S4
 
Phenobarb is S4 now. Yeah pharmacies do keep records but the communicating it to a doctor is another story. The doctor would have to ring the pharmacy and know which one to ring.

Mr Blonde that would be great if you could find out more info, it would be greatly appreciated.
 
Mr Blonde said:
It's hard to get exact information because it really is up to the discretion of the doctors that treated you. Unless an ER doctor posts here and tells us they have a policy to follow in situations like this?

The PBS thing is not true; pharmacies keep a record of everything and have a specific folder (usually big and black) for Schedule VIII drugs... of which you have three apparently (ritalin, dexamphetamine and some barbiturate/s).

Also, I know the QLD DDU keeps track of benzodiazepines and I think codeine/APAP scripts as well.

Like L3inad said, the TGA will also have records.



QLD has a DDU, I'm sure other states have their own equivalent. I think the doubling of units (i.e. state DDU and TGA records) is because the QLD DDU is dedicated to this task and gets the information quicker and takes some load off the TGA in that regard.

I can try and get some more information tomorrow if you or OP wishes; I can probably find out more about the role of the DDU and the TGA in this regard and how it all works.
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if it weren't against the rules I would start a Mr Blond appreciation thread. Great knowledge and advice as always:)
 
phase dancer!!!

The myths aren't true. You are still alive!!!

Why? Who said what about me pd? I won't live to stand for this...!
 
Phase you have MIMS phenobarb is S4 isn't it.
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It is Schedule IV on the SUSMP.

MORE INFORMATION: Each state has their own version of the DDU; I don't know where you live, drug FUCKED, but rest assured your state has one.

This unit will keep track of substances that are considered highly liable for abuse and/or diversion. This includes the S8 drugs of course, and some S4 substances (benzodiazepines, barbiturates, codeine/APAP).

The TGA also keeps a record, however they mainly collate information from the states. They also influence the restrictions on prescriptions in Australia.

If you are to be prescribed a S8 drugs for longer then a certain period, then there must be authorization from the head of health in your state. This period can be extended in some situations (usually cancer, etc...) but after that authorization must be acquired.

The TGA will keep records of all of this, but the body that mainly follows up on these issues will be each state's individual drugs of dependence unit.

Each pharmacy will have a folder that is used only for S8 drugs. These records are transmitted to the appropriate body I believe, and every now and then a pharmacy will go through an audit process to establish that the records are accurate and every single tablet in the S8 safe is accounted for.

Also interesting to note is that Medicare, who reimburses pharmacies for the costs of medication, will follow up on doctor shopping behavior.

I will try and get some more information when possible regarding how this is regulated and performed, if anyone has a specific question or query let me know.

drug FUCKED: Sorry I can't help you with the information about ER policy on patients found with multiple prescribed drugs that are subject to control... unless someone chimes in then you may have to wait until you see your doctors again or they contact you.

if it weren't against the rules I would start a Mr Blond appreciation thread. Great knowledge and advice as always
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Thanks comrade! That has cheered me up after a long day. :)
 
^ Ha ha, any part in particular?

I also forgot to add, if a doctor is going to prescribe an S8 medication to someone known to be drug dependent or a drug seeker, they must seek authority to do so.
 
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