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Mexican Cartel and Shwag.

RandomGuy123

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Wouldn't it make more sense to do large scale hydroponic grows? Instead of having shitty outdoor shit weed you could have bricked hydro. Just don't understand. Guess it's the extremely low cost of growing shit outdoors...
But then again, if they invested maybe 5 million the outcome would be ridiculous.

Move the thread wherever it needs to go. Wasn't sure about this one.
 
yah well you answered your own question about how growing out doors is dirt cheap just cause you hardly need any equipment except seeds. Also theres a lot more space and anonimity when youre outside. If the cops bust a big field of weed and nobodys there they dont arrest anybody. If the cops bust an inside op there gonna investigate and somebodys going away for awhile. You can also come up with a ton more weight growing outside. Plants inside take a lot more care and time then outside. Theres probably some old habits die hard going on too theyve been growing weed like that for like 50 years or something.
 
yah well you answered your own question about how growing out doors is dirt cheap just cause you hardly need any equipment except seeds. Also theres a lot more space and anonimity when youre outside. If the cops bust a big field of weed and nobodys there they dont arrest anybody. If the cops bust an inside op there gonna investigate and somebodys going away for awhile. You can also come up with a ton more weight growing outside. Plants inside take a lot more care and time then outside. Theres probably some old habits die hard going on too theyve been growing weed like that for like 50 years or something.

true, but it's just simply shit compared to dro, you get more for your money with dro to be honest.
 
Believe it or not there actually are people who enjoy smoking shitty brick weed.
 
I think they're still making plenty on the brick though. If it aint broke. . .

Yeah, but look at the big picture, they would do so much better financially if they just ran one big operation, that also means cheaper dro prices :).
I know they have the space+buildings+bribes to do so.
 
OP, who's to say they'd be making more money? They might get more of YOUR money, but whatever methods are in place now have been tried and proven true for quite some time now.


Your insight is good from a consumer's perspective but not a supplier's.
 
Believe it or not there actually are people who enjoy smoking shitty brick weed.

^^This, think blunts.

If there's a market for it and its super cheap to produce, then they'll continue to grow it that way. Also, due to the sheer volume of brick they're making...any police/DEA action won't really hurt their operation. As others have said, a bust on an indoor operation would cause many more problems for the cartels.
 
Believe it or not there actually are people who enjoy smoking shitty brick weed.

I'm not from the US so I don't know about mexican but believe it or not I like the low THC very dry outdoor import we get sometimes in the uk. Thai it's normally called but I can't be sure that is where it comes from. It normally has string and seeds in it.
 
I'm just saying, it would be rediculous if the mexican cartels upped their quality on weed. I mean, they basically move the coke, good E, and pharms right?
 
After pot, methamphetamine and heroin are Mexico's biggest drug exports if I'm not mistaken. As far as I know, cocaine isn't manufactured in Mexico (think South America). I think most ecstasy is manufactured out of Canada and/or overseas.

Growing the weed outdoors means much more of it can be grown with a lot less liability. If the cartels operated one huge indoor growth operation instead, and it got raided by their government and/or the DEA, then they would be fucked (and so would all the users over here that rely on that weed).

Growing outdoors allows for more output, with less chance of a bust hurting the overall operation. It just makes sense for such a large scale supplier to stick with that strategy.
 
They move whatever's economically viable.


The only thing I know for sure that is grown/manufactured and sold in large quantities is Mexico are cannabis and methamphetamine... to my knowledge all the other drugs are imported for cheap and exported with a much more expensive price tag.



[edit: yeah, what eon said.]
 
I'm not from the US so I don't know about mexican but believe it or not I like the low THC very dry outdoor import we get sometimes in the uk. Thai it's normally called but I can't be sure that is where it comes from. It normally has string and seeds in it.

wow we get the same in california. is the string red?

And theres no reason for them to risk an indoor grow op. The way they do it is free, anonymous, and they dont have to smuggle it across the border. I dont think people making 10 million a year are going to stick their neck out for another 2 mil or whatever they might come up.
 
Yeah echo the strings red on thai stick in the uk. :) (the few times i've had anyway)

Never understood why people wanted it though, for the same price you can get similair weights of stronger weed. if the weeds too strong and you like a milder high, smoke less duh.
 
Yeah but smoking less is never that appealing of an option. Just like with weight loss food they tell you to eat more of the non-fat variety, not less food in general. Even though it is very much in the realm of "duhh" it still is all about psychology.
People like the fact that they can get a big ol bag of shit for cheap and then tell themselves they're getting more for the money. Doesn't matter if half of the weight is big stems and beaners to those people.
I used to smoke shwag only if all my heady dealers were out. Then I got to the point where I'd call my shwag dealers first. Then I quit weed for about half a year. Now I smoke only headies and go without anything if I can only get shwag. I'd rather not waste any more of my life on a shwag high ever again.
But not everyone who smokes weed is well connected so there's still a large market for the bottom of the barrel variety.
 
^I like the schwag high, it's very similar to better weed but it seems to make me feel more sedated and have a kind of warm and heavy body high. Each to his own, but I dig the schwag high, it's never given me a headache or anything negative that people report all the time, mainly it just seems weaker then chronic but otherwise very similar.

Growing weed outdoors requires pretty much no skill and very little knowledge and no equipment except people to sow and harvest, a watering system and a location.

Growing indoors would require not only much more equipment but it would require people who knew how to grow hydroponic weed, who would need to be paid.

The cartels make huge quantities of money, shit, El Chapo is one of the world's richest men I think. They would have to change their operations and invest much more money for a potential small profit increase.

I like schwag, it has a different high then chronic that I enjoy sometimes, I can use it in blunts and joints without feeling like I'm burning money, a lot of it is pretty good and most importantly it's 6-10 times cheaper then chronic. There are a lot of people like me who choose to smoke schwag instead of or along with chronic, I usually like to have both. The cartels have a monopoly on the schwag market which they don't have on the chronic market.

So not only would they have to completly change their operations, they'd have to deal with smuggling the stuff into America and then they'd have to worry about competing with local growers and people growing domestically and exporting throughout the country from places like California and Colorado.

Basically, they make many millions of dollars importing many millions of pounds of weed, they are pretty much the only groups producing cheap, low- mid grade weed, and there's no reason for them to change how they do things.

By the way, a lot of the schwag coming out of Mexico is pretty good, it's like the level of mids if you know the right guy. So not all the stuff the cartels produce is terrible. Most of the stuff sold in Texas seems pretty good, the further you get from the border the worse and more expensive the schwag seems to get.

When it comes down to it, 60 dollars will get me 1.5 or 2 weeks of daily, heavy smoking from schwag and the same amount of money spent on chronic will have me needing to get more in half that time. I'm poor, schwag is more cost efficient so I like to buy a few grams of chronic and half an oz or 1 oz of schwag so I can mainly smoke schwag but have chronic for when I really want it. If I had the cash to buy chronic and roll blunts and joints all the time, I would, but I don't so the chronic goes in a bowl or an occaisional joint andn the schwag goes in the bong, joints and blunts.
 
When I lived in Chicago I fairly certain the herb I bought was bricked out mexi weed.

I bought it because it was cheap and lasted forever (i also smoked mainly spliffs). I could buy a 1/4 oz of this bricked out weed for cheaper than it would cost me for 1/8th of good weed (but generally still a no-name) [rarely did I come across someone who was slinging an actual named strain, or atleast thought thats what they had]

I wouldn't mind at all if the cartels started pushing bomb herb but don't see that happening anytime soon
 
I just think, you can only get so high from shwag, and the high you get is shitty. But I find that the amount that it takes for you to get high, a small ratio of chronic will get you higher. Also tastes/smells/feels better.
 
I agree that the highs are different, but not that all schwag high is shitty.

Not arguing that schwag is better, or the high is better; but it was the economical choice for me for a long period of my life. It did cross my mind time to time though that the herb I was buying could possibly be supporting the cartels...
 
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