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Mescaline alone with girlfriend who has no xp?

sheepie

sheepie

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This friday I'm going to my girlfriends place for the entire night (her parents are gone) and I'm thinking of indulging in some peruvian torch. She's too afraid to take it because she's had bad experiences with weed, and her friends doing E - which is understandable. She's never taken anything besides weed and alcohol.

We're pretty close to each other. Our relationship is a little over 2 months but we get along really well and we've opened up to each other quite a bit, but there's still a lot more.

What do you guys think? Dumb idea? Good idea?

I'm also kind of torn because it's my only opportunity of having 10 hours without any parents or school in the next few months.
 
If she'd afraid to take it I wouldn't press the issue on her. Are you doing an extraction or are you just going to offer her some really gross tasting cactus juice? Cuz from what I remember that stuff is pretty gross.. and even if the trip is worth choking that stuff down to you, it won't be worth it to a lot of people especially people who don't trip.
 
If she wants to try psychedelics drugs i think mescaline is a little strong..

For me, mescaline is more pleasure and more "clean trip" than LSD or Shrooms, so i think she will do fine with a moderate dose.
 
You may get nausea at the start and have to barf up your dose which is kind of routine but mescaline is a very clear head space, more confident but still very powerful when compared to the standards mushrooms or LSD. Mescaline cactus is a little easier to handle but dose depending... you'll still have a full on trip with it. *luckily* I dosed too high on my first cactus experience yet thank myself for it, I found talking to folk was still difficult and i would stumble or try to express that I was tripping but it never "cut me off" from my ego I was still quite intact however intoxicated...
 
I'll be eating it raw, maybe with peanut butter or with water. I know I'll probably puke my guts out. I hate that, but it's a purge so you gotta do what you gotta do.

I've downed peruvian torch before. Unfortunately my dose was too low (20g) and I was only threshold dosage. It was just a come up that gradually faded away. I'm planning on taking 30g if I do end up doing it.

The main issue here is that she is uncomfortable with the whole issue of me and psychedelics. I try to explain to her that the way I use them they're good for me but understandably she doesn't really believe it. I mean you can't possibly imagine something as magical as a psychedelic if you've only done weed. And I don't like bringing it up because it makes her uncomfortable.

I just figured if I did peyote while she was around she would be able to understand it's not like weed or anything else. But that still probably won't work seeing as she's not doing it, so she only has an outside perspective of a high person. It's like a Catch 22. She needs to indulge in it with a leap of faith to understand them.

Moreover, she's had a rough (not ridiculous rough, just her fair share of bad relationship, depressions, and deaths that still haunt her) and one day I want her to try psychedelics to help her with these issues because they helped me in a similar way. She talks to me about them and sometimes she cries and I feel so bad for her I feel too bad to say "oh just take some drugs, it will make you forget about your dog's death".

Anyway I was hoping that maybe this friday, if she sees that psyches are pretty good, then we can do them together another time and really help her and our relationship.
 
LimaZ said:
If she wants to try psychedelics drugs i think mescaline is a little strong..
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This isn't meant as rude, but don't talk about things out of speculation like that-- you could have lost them a beautiful <3 experience.
Mescaline is the most gentle psychedelic-- infact I'd say its a good first trip for anyone. It's a loved up gentle psychedelic-- how could it go wrong? It can also be sooo romantic.
 
sheepie said:
I'll be eating it raw, maybe with peanut butter or with water. I know I'll probably puke my guts out. I hate that, but it's a purge so you gotta do what you gotta do.

I've downed peruvian torch before. Unfortunately my dose was too low (20g) and I was only threshold dosage. It was just a come up that gradually faded away. I'm planning on taking 30g if I do end up doing it.

The main issue here is that she is uncomfortable with the whole issue of me and psychedelics. I try to explain to her that the way I use them they're good for me but understandably she doesn't really believe it. I mean you can't possibly imagine something as magical as a psychedelic if you've only done weed. And I don't like bringing it up because it makes her uncomfortable.

I just figured if I did peyote while she was around she would be able to understand it's not like weed or anything else. But that still probably won't work seeing as she's not doing it, so she only has an outside perspective of a high person. It's like a Catch 22. She needs to indulge in it with a leap of faith to understand them.

Moreover, she's had a rough (not ridiculous rough, just her fair share of bad relationship, depressions, and deaths that still haunt her) and one day I want her to try psychedelics to help her with these issues because they helped me in a similar way. She talks to me about them and sometimes she cries and I feel so bad for her I feel too bad to say "oh just take some drugs, it will make you forget about your dog's death".

Anyway I was hoping that maybe this friday, if she sees that psyches are pretty good, then we can do them together another time and really help her and our relationship.
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i had a similar situation with my fiance, but she came 'round and loved mescaline. then we got into rolling-- and ended up doing way too many stims and tripping a bit too often.. now its been a year and i'm trying to get her to trip with me again - it's like she forgot the magic.
 
I wouldn't push it on her, and quite honestly, I never suggest anyone takes any psychedelics (seen way too many people freak out because they were unprepared). Unless, they are sure on their own that they want to. Taking a psychedelic due to peer pressure can cause a lot of anxiety which could ultimately lead to a bad trip. If you really want her to open up she will do it when she feels shes ready.
 
If your drinking the torch raw, it may be too much for a beginner. Upset stomach, possible dirareha while tripping very vary hard may turn her off from any other psychedelics.

I would go with a low dose of LSD or 4-aco-dmt for a first time experience.
 
yourtman said:
This isn't meant as rude, but don't talk about things out of speculation like that-- you could have lost them a beautiful <3 experience.
Mescaline is the most gentle psychedelic-- infact I'd say its a good first trip for anyone. It's a loved up gentle psychedelic-- how could it go wrong? It can also be sooo romantic.
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I actually thought the same thing. I don't know that I could come up with a better compound to use to introduce someone to psychedelics.
If we are talking about a really heavy dose, 500+mgs, than sure that may be a bit extreme but a high dose of any psychedelic wouldn't be wise to give to a novice.
But low to moderate doses of Mescaline are really gentle, much more so than moderate to low doses of most tryptamines, ergolines and lots of the other phenethylamines.
I would never think to introduce someone to that world unless it was going to be with something pure or relatively so. Chugging catus juice or choking down jurema tea or whatever else wouldn't be ideal. Being physically comfortable will allow the person to really get lost in the experience.
 
If you have been with someone 2 months, and are wanting to change them into someone who can enjoy using psychedelics for their own healing of emotional trauma.....

sounds like this wont work out too long...

Just saying...

You guys havent even met eachother FOR REAL yet. I mean, yall still have your guards up and shit.... and you already want to change her more into what you want her to be....

This sounds dangerous. I would'nt EVER trip with someone I have only known for 2 months!!!!!

But then again, thats me. This is you.

I hope this all goes well, whatever you have decided on.


Just use the 10 hours or so to have slow romantic sex.... I guarantee she will like that more than tripping on cactus sludge, and MUCH MORE than she would like WATCHING YOU trip on cactus sludge.
 
sheepie said:
The main issue here is that she is uncomfortable with the whole issue of me and psychedelics. I try to explain to her that the way I use them they're good for me but understandably she doesn't really believe it. I mean you can't possibly imagine something as magical as a psychedelic if you've only done weed. And I don't like bringing it up because it makes her uncomfortable.
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I completely understand where you're coming from OP, but what you wrote above makes me feel like this might not be a great idea. It could mean a bad time for you if she's feeling negative towards you/the whole tripping situation. I mean, if she doesn't like the thought of tripping, I don't think her seeing you puking/pupils dialated to hell/acting funky will change much. Might actually put her off even more from trying them.

If I were you I would put her on to a bunch of good trip reports/studies showing that psychs are less harmful than alcohol etc. When the gf and I first started dating (5 years ago..wow the time flies) she did NOT like the thought of drugs, including weed. Using the method above, she opened her mind to the idea of tripping and now has experience with LSD/mushies/4-aco-dmt/2c-i/mdma. Hell, last night she was doing lines of methylone with me!!

Good luck and godspeed OP, and I hope whatever you choose to do you two have a meaningful bonding experience. :)
 
stumblestoprepeat said:
I completely understand where you're coming from OP, but what you wrote above makes me feel like this might not be a great idea. It could mean a bad time for you if she's feeling negative towards you/the whole tripping situation. I mean, if she doesn't like the thought of tripping, I don't think her seeing you puking/pupils dialated to hell/acting funky will change much. Might actually put her off even more from trying them.

If I were you I would put her on to a bunch of good trip reports/studies showing that psychs are less harmful than alcohol etc. When the gf and I first started dating (5 years ago..wow the time flies) she did NOT like the thought of drugs, including weed. Using the method above, she opened her mind to the idea of tripping and now has experience with LSD/mushies/4-aco-dmt/2c-i/mdma. Hell, last night she was doing lines of methylone with me!!

Good luck and godspeed OP, and I hope whatever you choose to do you two have a meaningful bonding experience. :)
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In general this is great advice... seeing someone puking their guts out on a nasty cactus juice (do doing so themselves) is a HORRIBLE introduction to psychedelics. 4acodmt is too unpredictable. Shrooms too potentially anxiety generating. Perfect choice is a medium dose of some very clean LSD after alot of reading only when she is sure she is ready. Common sense really, right? Don't let your enthusiasm get the better of you and lead her to a bad experience which could put her off them forever.

Gotta comment one thing in the above post: LINES of Methylone??? Dude, it's way to fast and hard on the heart, not to mention painful that way, plus it does NOT work as well as oral, which has you in a floaty euphoric bubble VERY soon enough (45-50 mins). Why do people insist on treating every white powder as if it was coke? Really bothers me, everyone thinking they ought to stuff every possible drug up their nose, haha! Pretty silly if you ask me. To each his own I guess, but the vast majority of people experienced with M1 agree, oral is the best way to go with methylone.
 
DwayneHoover said:
Gotta comment one thing in the above post: LINES of Methylone??? Dude, it's way to fast and hard on the heart, not to mention painful that way, plus it does NOT work as well as oral, which has you in a floaty euphoric bubble VERY soon enough (45-50 mins). Why do people insist on treating every white powder as if it was coke? Really bothers me, everyone thinking they ought to stuff every possible drug up their nose, haha! Pretty silly if you ask me. To each his own I guess, but the vast majority of people experienced with M1 agree, oral is the best way to go with methylone.
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Yeeeah I know. Dumb impulse decision, we decided to redose before sexytime (oral doses were taken at the start of the night). Since then I've read that insuff. methylone isn't as effective as oral (makes sense with our experience), so it's something I'm not going to do again. Didn't hurt too bad though. :)
 
My first experience with psychedelics was with peruvian torch and it remains one of my favorite and most memorable drug experiences. I think mescaline is an excellent introductory psychedelic. The thing is, someone who is unfamiliar with psychedelics might be a little hesitant to gulp down a bunch of cacti flesh (No matter how awesomely rewarding it can be) :)
 
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