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Rocket Surgeon

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hello, my friend got 3 pills the other day and we plan to roll soon! however he has 2 that are the same and one is different, the 2 are blue and shaped just like a small dog bone and he says they are cut with heroin.

the other one however, is a purpleish redish coler with a dollar sign and small blue sploches here and there, and one or two white splotches..im not sure about that one but he says it is speed based but what sketches me out is all the spots of different color.

so my questions are these

since there are three of us doing this (one each) which of these pills will make a person roll the hardest?

two of them have not done e before but i have..once..which one do you think i would be better off taking?

what would you think about the red/purple one that is all funky?

since it is their first times do you think they would be better off taking a half of one especially if one of them is the one to take the funky one instead of me?

if they do take just a half of one, would it be safe for them to take the other half of a DIFFERENT one later (same goes for me if i want to take a half of one that they decided not to take if i had taken a different kind in the first place)?


i know theres a lot there but drugs are serious business.
 
pillreports.com is the best advice i can give you. no one can tell you what to take cuz all pills are different no matter what the dealer says.

newbs, talk a half. pros take a whole. no one can tell you what you will receive
 
will it be okay to take a full heroin one then take half of the speed one though? assuming they are what i say they are?
 
Rocket Surgeon said:
will it be okay to take a full heroin one then take half of the speed one though? assuming they are what i say they are?
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Ignorant. If you want to do terrible drugs to your self, why not just get the real thing. At least you will know what your getting. Get a test kit and stop being stupid. Thanks%)
 
listen to these guys and gals. test your stuff because no one can tell you whats in your pills based on the information you've provided. as you know, you're on the ecstasy forum, so by saying that you plan to knowingly take pills containing unspecified amounts of unknown substances you're basically stirring a fire, and you're not going to like the responses you receive. this community has taught me 99.9% of what i know about MDMA and they're just trying to help you stay safe. get a test kit because life is too short for filthy pills!
 
pontifex01 said:
- Pills cut with heroin are an urban legend. There have been sporadic cases of this occurring but the chances of your having a pill cut with heroin (which, gram per gram, costs more than MDMA) are extremely, extremely unlikely.
I believe I read this on erowid, do some googling and I'm sure you'll find it.
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There is no such thing as MDMA cut with heroin. As far as I know this has never happened, ever. Anyone who tells you differently is just talking smack. ;)
 
The most important factor is assuring that your pills are authentic- though you may be excited to try MDMA, if the pills you have are made out of piperazine or other common adulterants, it's not worth the gamble. Piperazine sucks, it's not a pleasant experience at all (imo), and it's not worth risking it if you don't know. Drug dealers will claim they've taken the pills they're selling you, or their friend has- do NOT trust your dealer :) If your pills are legit, I wouldn't worry about it, just start slow and have fun!
 
Bsiren said:
The most important factor is assuring that your pills are authentic- though you may be excited to try MDMA, if the pills you have are made out of piperazine or other common adulterants, it's not worth the gamble. Piperazine sucks, it's not a pleasant experience at all (imo), and it's not worth risking it if you don't know. Drug dealers will claim they've taken the pills they're selling you, or their friend has- do NOT trust your dealer :) If your pills are legit, I wouldn't worry about it, just start slow and have fun!
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This ^^^

Ed Nyrion - Test kit vendor <--- clicking this link sponsors pill reports/bluelight
 
Big)Sky said:
Ignorant. If you want to do terrible drugs to your self, why not just get the real thing. At least you will know what your getting. Get a test kit and stop being stupid. Thanks%)
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LADOLCEVITA said:
lmfao!!!!!yes take the one with heroin8)
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What exactly are you here for? If you here to simply make new users feel stupid then please leave - this site and these threads are for all users to gain information.

Calling somebody ignorant just because the maybe dont know as much as you is pointless and your missing the entire point of the site.

Thanks
 
Rocket Surgeon said:
hello, my friend got 3 pills the other day and we plan to roll soon! however he has 2 that are the same and one is different, the 2 are blue and shaped just like a small dog bone and he says they are cut with heroin.

the other one however, is a purpleish redish coler with a dollar sign and small blue sploches here and there, and one or two white splotches..im not sure about that one but he says it is speed based but what sketches me out is all the spots of different color.

so my questions are these

since there are three of us doing this (one each) which of these pills will make a person roll the hardest?

two of them have not done e before but i have..once..which one do you think i would be better off taking?

what would you think about the red/purple one that is all funky?

since it is their first times do you think they would be better off taking a half of one especially if one of them is the one to take the funky one instead of me?

if they do take just a half of one, would it be safe for them to take the other half of a DIFFERENT one later (same goes for me if i want to take a half of one that they decided not to take if i had taken a different kind in the first place)?


i know theres a lot there but drugs are serious business.
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Have a look on Pillreports and try and iditify what pills you have - I really wouldnt believe what your dealer tells you about pills containing heroin, the chances of that are very remote.

Once you have a better idea of what your pills contain and you have made the decision to take them or not - take half see how you feel and if you want more then take an other half (either tablet).

The key here is to test your pills and find out what your taking first.

Sorry about some of the dickhead replies to your question - so many people seem to know everything but dont want to help.
 
freescale said:
There is no such thing as MDMA cut with heroin. As far as I know this has never happened, ever. Anyone who tells you differently is just talking smack. ;)
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I honestly dont think that anyone would use Heroin as a cutting agent for MDMA - it has its own market and dealers can easily sell it.

So many people make the mistake of thinking that all MDMA will have you jumping around raving your socks off etc When they take it and it floors them they automatically (and wrongly) assume its something else and assume Heroin and the myth/stories continue.
 
If the dudes telling you ones cut with heroin, theres a big chance he's lying about that, so you obviously can't trust him.
Like everyone said, check out the prints on pillreports.com to see if they're clean (which I doubt, since the dude told you himself they weren't)
You honestly shouldn't settle for anything less than pure or near pure. The only pills I take are pures or pills cut with a litttle bit of speed, but not too speedy where I'm tweaking.

I had the same dilema, though, I had two pretty yellow pills and one splotchy yellow melted pill.. I took the yellow one because it was the scariest and no one else wanted to take it. Ended up being the only person to not roll. xD

Let us know what you decide to do.
 
lol @ the idea of heroin cut pills. the reasons it's not a heroin based pill:

-Heroin has terrible bioavailability when taken orally, you wouldn't feel it if you swallowed it.
-Heroin does not act as a good binder for pills. Think about the size of the pill it would create if you had binders + mdma + heroin. It'd be massive.
-Heroin costs more than MDMA, thus it isn't economical for a presser to add heroin to a pill. The presser would be losing money if he added heroin to a press, otherwise he'd have to charge a lot more than the market will pay for ecstasy. It's basic economics.
-Like the moderator said, heroin has its own market. If a dealer is trying to get rid of a heroin stash, they'll sell it as heroin and not try to market it as ecstasy.

This is definitely one of the most retarded myths that gets spread around about ecstasy....the "heroin-based" and "coke-based" pills. Neither exist.
 
Normally I would say you and your friend should combine pills and crush them up and capsulize so you are on the same level but you aint bothered testin so...

See the thing about mixin beans is that your also mixin aduterants that may not be ment to be mixed.

Blue Rabbit- MDMA/Caffine
Green Bears - MDMA/Meth
Red Rooster - DXM/Piperazine

Each on there own will be there own, but mixing and you will have an ugly trip.

Mixing a Blue Rabbit with 2 Green Bears and a Red Rooster might be hazardous.

Get a test kit and stop bein an idiot.
 
augustaB said:
This is basically pill identification and as such is not allowed.
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This is not a Pill ID - this is a new user asking some very basic questions

roganmaster said:
lol @ the idea of heroin cut pills. the reasons it's not a heroin based pill:

-Heroin has terrible bioavailability when taken orally, you wouldn't feel it if you swallowed it.
-Heroin does not act as a good binder for pills. Think about the size of the pill it would create if you had binders + mdma + heroin. It'd be massive.
-Heroin costs more than MDMA, thus it isn't economical for a presser to add heroin to a pill. The presser would be losing money if he added heroin to a press, otherwise he'd have to charge a lot more than the market will pay for ecstasy. It's basic economics.
-Like the moderator said, heroin has its own market. If a dealer is trying to get rid of a heroin stash, they'll sell it as heroin and not try to market it as ecstasy.

This is definitely one of the most retarded myths that gets spread around about ecstasy....the "heroin-based" and "coke-based" pills. Neither exist.
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Heroin Pills

Cocain Pills

Cocaine is stupidly and more commonly being used in pills now than ever before - the problem is dealers and users use the word 'based'. If your buying ecstasy and anyone tells you the pills are 'any drug other than MDMA based' surely you dont want them, you want MDMA based pills.

Of the Coke pills shown on the above link dont think that by popping them your going to feel any high from the cocaine - the amounts are too small.

People need to remember that everyday new users are starting out taking Ecstasy - the age old myths, rumours and crazy questions will always be asked, and in a nut shell thats what were here for.
 
Well its clear there is only one way to go about this.
As you say, its a serious business.

Lets suspend our disbelief and propose for a minute that you have actually got two mdma tablets that until now have existed only in the realm of fantasy, and are in fact cut with sweet lady H.

And you've got one "funky" one.

Well if you are any kind of gentleman, you will not let your proclaimed "friends" and newbies take an unknown entity.
Thus you must do the decent thing and swallow the funk.

However this presents you with another 3 major problems.

1) Perhaps you won't get your buzz on from the funky one. and its clear from your post that your desire to get the best high rules over your responsibility towards your mates experience
2) You are potentially feeding two human beings the untried and untested pills, and it's their first roll
3) If they are magic beans we've all fantasized about, and are indeed cut with heroin, then you will be missing out!!

The course of action is clear then.
You must swallow one of the smack crackers AS WELL so that you are sure in your mind that your mates will be safe. Its the decent thing to do man. be chivalrous now.

If they do turn out to be heroin laced, then after recovering from my panic attack from shock, I advise you whatever you do, don't give up the final one to your mates! what a waste! and besides it's not enough to go around!
At this stage the only thing to do is to take that one as well, as an act of selfless self-sacrifice, (like Jesus only your way cooler) and then sit your mates down with some popcorn and cherry cola and allow them to observe your roll so they know what they are getting themselves into.
You should film it too and post it on Bluelight!
That would be way cool!

That way you act as an heroic model and iconic legend who saves his friends from having a shitty first roll (you wanna get buzzed though eh?? eh??) and acts as a living example to us all as to what happens if you hang out with naive and irresponsible little fuckwits who think that they may be able to identify the content of their pills by describing them to a faceless bunch of strangers on a web forum!
And what makes it even cooler is that you don't care enough about you or your friends to actually get a tester kit, no you would rather just get enough information so that you can get the best high in front of your poor newbie mates!
Wicked man!

oh and as an afterthought. Be aware that heroin is a bit jippy on the tummy, so if you don't wanna puke, and you wanna get your rocks off, I advise in the interests of harm reduction, that you disolve the pills in tequila and just inject them straight into your erect cock.

I guarantee you will get higher than you've ever been, and with any luck reduce harm inflicted on us all by eliminating yourself from the gene pool.

Don't take this post the wrong way though man.
I respect you and your morals.
And if you go through with what I suggest, you will be the biggest hero to have ever posted on Bluelight or any web forum ever.

Rock on man!
Hope it all works out!
 
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