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Hi,
I am starting this thread in the hope that it can be bulked out with genuine answers into how Ecstasy got so big in the late 80's in the UK.

Who was producing it in such large numbers?

And how was it getting on to the streets?

What truth is there in the rumours that MI6 played a big part in manufacturing variations of MDMA and using it has a form of "field testing" on clubbers and ravers for some other agenda?

So in essence what was the real purpose of the illegal ecstasy market and scene in the 1980's?
 
Search "Ecstasy Rising" on Youtube.

It's a 30 minute video total and answers every question you've just asked in depth (except the M16 conspiracy, never heard of that).

It's a great documentary.
 
started out as a perfectly legal chemical flying low under the radar of the authorities and the law for a while, just like many of the legal research chemicals around now a days that are legal and new
 
^naw.
in the US, yes. it was apparently always illegal in the UK because of their droog laws.
In the US it was sold legally and whatnot but as far as i can see, it was always "underground" in the UK.
 
forgot OP wanted to focus on UK, of which i have no idea i'm sorry. But according to ecstasy rising mdma was legal and sometimes sold at clubs until it was made illegal in 1985. I'm suprised ecstasy rising doesn't have any UK mdma history
 
yeah. thats in teh US. ive seen ecstasy rising, many times. ecstasy didnt catch on as early in the UK anyway last i knew and it was made illegal in the 70's in the UK because of it being similar to MDA or something.
 
Watch the movie "Party Monster". It's been ages since I've seen it, but it references a lot to that time frame.
 
not sure about who was producing it. i do no it first became common public knowledge and fashionable in 1988 when acid house first took off, this is when i first started taking it. before that time, it was much more underground. it was only really found in gay clubs in london and reasonably rare. apprently very expensive at that time, one pill could cost, 40/60 pounds, maybe more.

havent never heard anything about mi6, who knows. have heard a rumour that mdea became popular for a while as that wasnt classed as illegal for a short while in the late 80's to early 90's, but i am typing here withought researching that properly, i shall have a good search tommorow, but thats something ive definitley heard before, although could be a rumour. i think i do rememebr that possibly being the case though, and then they changed the law to all md derivatives class A to include mdea; as well the already illegal mda and mdma and anything else they may of come up with at that time. mdma and mda was always illegal througought the 80's here in the uk though, thats definite. america on the other hand is a different kettle of fish entirley. same thing happened though in terms of it becoming popular through gay nightclubs, but was allegedly legal in the late 70's/early 80's. again more research needed here, but have heard stories being avalable in bowls on the bars of gay clubs and warerhous parties. would of been intersting to be there at that time ;)
 
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dee_dee said:
not sure about who was producing it. i do not it first became common public knowledge and fashionable in 1988 when acid house first took off, this is when i first started taking it. before that time, it was much more underground. it was only really found in gay clubs in london. apprently very expensive at that time, one pill could cost, 40/60 pounds, maybe more.

havent never heard anything about mi6, who knows. have heard a rumour that mdea became popular for a while as that wasnt classed as illegal for a short while in the late 80's to early 90's, but i am typing here withought researching that properly, i shall have a good search tommorow, but thats something ive definitley heard before, although could be a rumour. i think i do rememebr that possibly being the case though, and then they changed the law to all md derivatives class a to include mdea as well the already mda and mdma and anything else they may of come up with at that time also heard before. mdma and mda was always illegal througought the 80's here in the uk though, thats definite. america on the other hand is a different kettle of fish entirley. same thing happened though in terms of it becoming popular through gay nightclubs, but was allegedly legal in the late 70's/early 80's. again more research needed here, but have ehard stories of it being avilable in bowls on the bars of gay clubs and warerhous parties. would of been intersting to be there at that time ;)
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What is it about the gay guys? They always get onto a good thing first, when it comes to new drugs.
 
lol, well i think it would be wrong of me to suggest all gay man take drugs, thats not true, but being gay myself, i can say now, taking drugs and partying is a very common thing, especially if you live in major cities all over the world, whetherit be london, paris, new york, sydney, chicago, LA, cape town, wherever. im not sure the reason why, but its a common way of life. i guess gay men tend to spend alot of time in nightclubs, they also tend to be quite experimental? who knows....

if your familiar with ecstacy culuture in the uk, then u may of heard of a man called nicholas saunders, i think hes dead now, but ive just researched and yes it appears i was correct up until 1993, mdea was not recogninised as an illegal drug, but then they changed the law here in the uk to include that with mdma and mda, which is why it became popular in the early 90's here in the uk. there was some fine examples of mdea pills circulating at that time.
 
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yea dee dee, i herd that about MDE too, you're right
saunders is the dood who made the ecstasy.org website.
 
two very famous mdea pills here in the uk in the early 90's were dennis the menace. these were black and red capsules, and also disco biscuits, these were brown and crumbly. i always knew when i had taken mdea. i do not like it. it feels strong at first, but, there is no synthetic hallucnigon qualities that are apprent with mdma and mda in my opinion. it does not make the music sound good, and it does not make things look nice, or make you want to dance. its very boring
 
^ I really enjoyed both of those pills :D (and the Rhubarb and Custards that came out after them) - I started seeing Ecstasy (pills) in the UK in 88 - very small amounts and pretty hard to find. It didnt take long before it seemed to flood the place and the Acid House parties took off big style.

I really didnt see any actual MDMA crystal/powder until the 90's.
 
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^ I really enjoyed both of those pills :D (and the Rhubarb and Custards that came out after them) - I started seeing Ecstasy (pills) in the UK in 88 - very small amounts and pretty hard to find. It didnt take long before it seemed to flood the place and the Acid House parties took off big style.

I really didnt see any actual MDMA crystal/powder until the 90's.
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Yeah Bl, alot of my mates really enjoyed those pills too. they just never did it for me. they thought theyd got super strong e or something, on the other hand i just wanted to sit down and vegetate. this was around the time we started getting semi legal raves in the uk too. the first nightclub in the uk in east central london was granted a official 24 hour music license. its ironic the gay afterhours night there, very famous indeeds logo, was a dennis the menace capsule, which none of us knew at the time, due to loophoples in the law, was a semi legal drug anyway. there was lots of qustionable things going on regarding the law and loopholes at that time in uk clubland including mdea. i guess its not disimilar to the rc situation recentley with mephedrone. the only difference being, we are very much aware of it now. at that time, we wasnt particulally any wiser.
 
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