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the official 2010-11 college football thread! ver. Auburn VS Oregon?
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Pander Bear
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and then OSU gives the touchdown back 
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Pander Bear
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OSU turns over ball on their own 40 going for it on 4th and 2 feet. Tressel van Alden is not happy.
Pander Bear
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it's a nut house here in Columbus - life is great during BCS Bowl Season here when you are a Buckeyes fan!
Arkansas was good, and almost came back in the 2nd quarter thanks to Tressel reverting back into conservative mode. I will reiterate what I have been saying in this thread all year long - Ryan Mallet is going to be one helluva NFL QB. he made some fantastic throws tonight, it was just too bad for him and Arky that either 1) his WRs dropped so many balls and 2) Ohio State demonstrated WHY they are the sporting the 2nd best defense in college football
it does feel good as a tOSU fan to finally get over that SEC mental road-block
because I fully expect my team to be in the National Championship next year (if all the studs come back). and I also fully expect an SEC team (as usual) to square off against them in the BCS National Championship
Arkansas was good, and almost came back in the 2nd quarter thanks to Tressel reverting back into conservative mode. I will reiterate what I have been saying in this thread all year long - Ryan Mallet is going to be one helluva NFL QB. he made some fantastic throws tonight, it was just too bad for him and Arky that either 1) his WRs dropped so many balls and 2) Ohio State demonstrated WHY they are the sporting the 2nd best defense in college football
it does feel good as a tOSU fan to finally get over that SEC mental road-block
because I fully expect my team to be in the National Championship next year (if all the studs come back). and I also fully expect an SEC team (as usual) to square off against them in the BCS National Championship
Pander Bear
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pryor played like he's supposed to, I expect him to be even more dangerous next year. Other than that though-- Arkansas wide receivers handed you that game-- than and some shitty calls (whistle a play dead because a wrist touched the ground, it didn't)
I am pleased that the very best team for the past decade in the big 10 barely escaped with a win against the third best team in the SEC.
Also, that seven nation army thing is stupid, guys. Are you going to sing Tic-tock at the 2 minute warning, too?
I am pleased that the very best team for the past decade in the big 10 barely escaped with a win against the third best team in the SEC.
Also, that seven nation army thing is stupid, guys. Are you going to sing Tic-tock at the 2 minute warning, too?
a couple things are wrong with your post:
Arkansas WRs did play like absolute shit. however, you can't knee-jerk and discredit tOSU instantly for this. a football mind must think: why did these WRs drop so many passes? sure, the biggest factor is probably either lack of talent (obvious, I agree their WRs couldn't hold a candle to the WRs of tOSU) and/or never playing before in the big-stage of a BCS Bowl Game (while tOSU are proven and hardened BCS warriors). however, one must go beyond the lack of talent of these WRs and think that the defensive coverages aided in these dropped passes (hearing footsteps). also, Ryan Mallet got a good dose of this grand Buckeye Defense because he was rushing passes all day, and therefore not throwing perfect passes (sometimes, but a couple times he made brilliant passes) and therefore the spiral of the said pass would have surely been off a little bit. the spiral not being perfect and what those Arky WRs are used to is a big factor in dropped passes
re: play calling. it was just as bad for tOSU as against it. I don't know if you need glasses or not, but that Arky WR's wrist most definitely touched the ground, and the ensuing slow motion replay proved this. you want to talk about bad calls? how about the time when tOSU was flagged for a false start, yet the flag was thrown so late that the officials allowed the entirety of the play to continue? that is very unprofessional. in fact, most gripes at the bar for tOSU fans was how bad of a game the zebras called. although I don't think that it was that bad, I don't see how you could be so SEC-bias to think that the zebras were just oh so against Arkansas
the "best team in the past decade of the Big Ten?" please. this is my biggest gripe. while this tOSU team is talented (like always), they still are no match for many other Buckeyes teams of this past decade. lest you forget, the National Championship Buckeyes still was ten years ago. I know there have been so many talented Ohio State teams in this past decade that it's easy to get them confused, but I have seen a more dominant defense and I have seen a more explosive (well-rounded) offense
and third best team in the SEC? it's not tOSU's fault that they beat what the system says is the second best SEC team. didn't Arkansas beat Alabama, anyways? or was that the lowly South Carolina Gamecocks?
as a Buckeye, I would have been far more content to see tOSU go up against a LSU or Bama team. not to be arrogant, but I think the Buckeyes would have had an easier time than against Arkansas. if you want to play Big Ten/Buckeyes football (defense, run game, field position) - I like the chances of my Buckeyes. it's teams like Oregon, Florida, or Arkansas that feature a spread offense or a deep pocket passer that scare me. if you want to play Tressel Ball, I like my chances with Tressel
and although Seven Nation Army is a rip-off from the soccer stadiums, I think it's rad. Ohio State has a good football team, but their band is the Best Damn Band in the Land. I would rarely go against their musical opinion in the matters of college football music
also, re: officiating. it seems that most of the sports writers disagree with the Arkansas safety late in the game. although I think it was fair and square, here is what the ESPN article reads: "then, after backing up Ohio State at its own 4 with a punt, Arkansas benefited from a highly questionable call by the officials to pick up two more points"
Arkansas WRs did play like absolute shit. however, you can't knee-jerk and discredit tOSU instantly for this. a football mind must think: why did these WRs drop so many passes? sure, the biggest factor is probably either lack of talent (obvious, I agree their WRs couldn't hold a candle to the WRs of tOSU) and/or never playing before in the big-stage of a BCS Bowl Game (while tOSU are proven and hardened BCS warriors). however, one must go beyond the lack of talent of these WRs and think that the defensive coverages aided in these dropped passes (hearing footsteps). also, Ryan Mallet got a good dose of this grand Buckeye Defense because he was rushing passes all day, and therefore not throwing perfect passes (sometimes, but a couple times he made brilliant passes) and therefore the spiral of the said pass would have surely been off a little bit. the spiral not being perfect and what those Arky WRs are used to is a big factor in dropped passes
re: play calling. it was just as bad for tOSU as against it. I don't know if you need glasses or not, but that Arky WR's wrist most definitely touched the ground, and the ensuing slow motion replay proved this. you want to talk about bad calls? how about the time when tOSU was flagged for a false start, yet the flag was thrown so late that the officials allowed the entirety of the play to continue? that is very unprofessional. in fact, most gripes at the bar for tOSU fans was how bad of a game the zebras called. although I don't think that it was that bad, I don't see how you could be so SEC-bias to think that the zebras were just oh so against Arkansas
the "best team in the past decade of the Big Ten?" please. this is my biggest gripe. while this tOSU team is talented (like always), they still are no match for many other Buckeyes teams of this past decade. lest you forget, the National Championship Buckeyes still was ten years ago. I know there have been so many talented Ohio State teams in this past decade that it's easy to get them confused, but I have seen a more dominant defense and I have seen a more explosive (well-rounded) offense
and third best team in the SEC? it's not tOSU's fault that they beat what the system says is the second best SEC team. didn't Arkansas beat Alabama, anyways? or was that the lowly South Carolina Gamecocks?
as a Buckeye, I would have been far more content to see tOSU go up against a LSU or Bama team. not to be arrogant, but I think the Buckeyes would have had an easier time than against Arkansas. if you want to play Big Ten/Buckeyes football (defense, run game, field position) - I like the chances of my Buckeyes. it's teams like Oregon, Florida, or Arkansas that feature a spread offense or a deep pocket passer that scare me. if you want to play Tressel Ball, I like my chances with Tressel
and although Seven Nation Army is a rip-off from the soccer stadiums, I think it's rad. Ohio State has a good football team, but their band is the Best Damn Band in the Land. I would rarely go against their musical opinion in the matters of college football music
also, re: officiating. it seems that most of the sports writers disagree with the Arkansas safety late in the game. although I think it was fair and square, here is what the ESPN article reads: "then, after backing up Ohio State at its own 4 with a punt, Arkansas benefited from a highly questionable call by the officials to pick up two more points"
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TheLoveBandit
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Sorry, I am on my iPhone so will keep short for now 
Tuned in at 28-13, with tinge of dismay, watched the last play of 3rd qtr - all multiple times it got extended, lol. Got psyched watching ARK defense clamp down hard and shut down tOSU offense. Even had the same feeling a lot of buckeyes probably did mid fourth qtr "oh boy, tOSU is trying to find a way to lose this". But here are my main takeaways from the only part I got to watch
1- tOSU has a solid D. ARK could have done better for their part but you have to give respect where it is due = tOSU defense
2- the safety was a bad call, IMO
3- as much as I wanted Ark to win, for tOSU to extend the little10+2's o-fer and their own abysmal record on SEC bowl matchups, the better team won. No doubt in my head (and Axl, I took pb's comment of best team of decade to mean the tOSU program and it's long running ownership of that conference, not just this years team...and the win over a perennial SEC "also-ran" as opposed to a top level SEC program - but I could be wrong)
4- TP showed poise and the mobility and escapability the rest of us have been waiting to see along with how play calling is limiting him
PS - I think the Little10+2 made a statement this bowl season, just not the one they imagined
Tuned in at 28-13, with tinge of dismay, watched the last play of 3rd qtr - all multiple times it got extended, lol. Got psyched watching ARK defense clamp down hard and shut down tOSU offense. Even had the same feeling a lot of buckeyes probably did mid fourth qtr "oh boy, tOSU is trying to find a way to lose this". But here are my main takeaways from the only part I got to watch
1- tOSU has a solid D. ARK could have done better for their part but you have to give respect where it is due = tOSU defense
2- the safety was a bad call, IMO
3- as much as I wanted Ark to win, for tOSU to extend the little10+2's o-fer and their own abysmal record on SEC bowl matchups, the better team won. No doubt in my head (and Axl, I took pb's comment of best team of decade to mean the tOSU program and it's long running ownership of that conference, not just this years team...and the win over a perennial SEC "also-ran" as opposed to a top level SEC program - but I could be wrong)
4- TP showed poise and the mobility and escapability the rest of us have been waiting to see along with how play calling is limiting him
PS - I think the Little10+2 made a statement this bowl season, just not the one they imagined
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cravNbeets
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yep dangerous to the buffalo bills when he suits up as a tight end for the dolphins
fun game to watch if you're not a fan of either team. i hate to see a tressell team not play 4 full quarters, but i suppose that has come to be expected (again). so many mistakes our offense in the second was reduced to a game of keep away... i'll take it though.
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Pander Bear
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to axl:
I was speaking of the school, not of your current squad.
So you bring it up why? I agree with you that he successfully broke the first tackle, and was then brought down for a safety. It was the wrong play to call, for sure-- and they paid for it.
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I was speaking of the school, not of your current squad.
So you bring it up why? I agree with you that he successfully broke the first tackle, and was then brought down for a safety. It was the wrong play to call, for sure-- and they paid for it.
You can blame nerves, or superior coverage (i wont give you guys any credit, because teams have been passing on your weak secondary all year), but I'm more inclined to just say ARK WRs had a statistically bad night at the worst possible time. You can't let ball after ball pop out of your hands and expect to score points. True though, Mallet was hurried-- I just don't understand the "I can't catch a ball if it isn't a perfect spiral" thing.
I think that big game jitters extend to officiating crews as well-- but I'll take unprofessional over changing the outcome of a game any day(not that any call did in this game-- barring maybe that "down by wrist"). The ACC sucks, what do you want?
I didn't say that-- lets just say that chance was against Arkansas. The pryor fumble recovery was pretty much a jump ball touchdown, the falling on the blocked punt rather than trying to scoop it and run, which is a judgement call but hella risky so i get it. In a game where you only win/lose by 5, and both teams play so loose, you can easily find things that cost your team a touchdown, i guess.
If you want to take away from SC's win (which I'm sure you didn't watch since there was probably a thrilling miami of ohio game on or something, then I'll happily apply the same dismissive attitude to your lone SEC bowl win.
I realized when I was watching the game that my opinions of what Ohio is like are heavily informed by the OSU band, and Pete & Pete. Ohio is a hokey, generic place, kinda like the inside of an applebee's.
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Kenickie
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I'm quite satisfied that the Ohio State win will have an * next to it, for all those suspended players who were "going to be punished, but not till tomorrow."
add lone bowl win so far this season for the conference. that thrilling miami of ohio game is on today, vs someone as equally undistinguished, middle tennessee i think.
add lone bowl win so far this season for the conference. that thrilling miami of ohio game is on today, vs someone as equally undistinguished, middle tennessee i think.
just like Cam Newton? or if UGA won any of their first four games without AJ Green (sadly, I'm not sure that they won any of their first four games, so I'm sure the Dawgs are a-ok)
I don't understand these Miami of Ohio jabs, that's like you caring about Louisiana-Lafayette. also, tOSU was not the only Big Ten team to win, Illinois and Iowa also won
I know I should rightfully get a lot of shit for challenging the SEC on NY Day, but did you all think that is was really possible for a Michigan team to beat a ranked team? as much as Sparty is a feel good story, would it be possible for them to take down a Bama team? not really...
the fact of the matter is that I believe tOSU could dismantle any college football team right now, with respect only to Auburn
the Buckeyes have the most impressive defense I have seen all year from most big-time contenders. did ya'll see that tOSU defensive line? DE Cameron Heyward single-handedly made Ryan Mallet an average QB
the SEC is known for defensive speed, but not even that highly-vaunted Arkansas team has seen such speed on the defensive line as that from the Buckeyes
Alabama? too vanilla, doesn't stand a chance. Oregon? same outcome as last year. hell, just like Arkansas, Auburn only has a couple of playmakers on offense (QB, maybe RB, maybe a WR just like Ark) and maybe one great defensive player. this is not an all-around great team, like this Ohio State team. one player does not a team make, as you all witnessed wonderfully how tOSU has two amazing WRs, two solid RBs, a QB who defies the laws of physics, and a defensive team that plays like a unit
tOSU > every other team in college football (sans maybe Auburn, but I'm not buying it 100 percent)
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i am in no way, shape or form a gaytors fan. but i just wanted to remind axl.
Pander Bear
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Oh, and Wisc
that was a fluke game if I've ever seen one. as TP not-nearly-as-eloquently put it, I'd say tOSU wins that match-up 9 out of 10 times. Wisco's Camp Randall Stadium is a very very tough place to play, and a night game?
that game had Buckeyes loss all over it...
it is what it is (blech). I'm not crowning tOSU National Champs, because they did lose, I'm just saying that I think this team could beat just about every other team around right now. I'm that confident in my Buckeyes, really
nice one, but here is my stance on this. I would have rather gotten whipped by FLA in the National Championship (many years ago, it's fading in our sports hivemind-vernacular) then be a Florida fan who has to deal with getting a new head coach in a tough conference
did you see the way the Gators played this year? I couldn't even imagine the Buckeyes playing as shit as that. in fact, I would probably have to go back 15 years to match their record this year (if that)
I'll take my Buckeyes, perennial contenders for the BCS NC, over that FLA bullshit any day. it matters not, because we all know that Urban Meyer is coming home to Columbus, Ohio when Jim Tressel chooses to retire gloriously
as per usual, it's just me arguing with a buncha fucking Southerners
that game had Buckeyes loss all over it...
it is what it is (blech). I'm not crowning tOSU National Champs, because they did lose, I'm just saying that I think this team could beat just about every other team around right now. I'm that confident in my Buckeyes, really
nice one, but here is my stance on this. I would have rather gotten whipped by FLA in the National Championship (many years ago, it's fading in our sports hivemind-vernacular) then be a Florida fan who has to deal with getting a new head coach in a tough conference
did you see the way the Gators played this year? I couldn't even imagine the Buckeyes playing as shit as that. in fact, I would probably have to go back 15 years to match their record this year (if that)
I'll take my Buckeyes, perennial contenders for the BCS NC, over that FLA bullshit any day. it matters not, because we all know that Urban Meyer is coming home to Columbus, Ohio when Jim Tressel chooses to retire gloriously
as per usual, it's just me arguing with a buncha fucking Southerners
Pander Bear
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its pretty easy to recruit NC talent when you're pretty much the only big show in your whole conference-- just look at the lopsided PAC 10 during Carols reign of gay-bar-terror. You dog the gators for playing against the teams that beat the shit out of the teams the buckeyes play. Your mind is warped.
The Buckeyes are perennial NC contenders because places like Penn State and Michigan-- school sthat OUGHT to be powerhouses-- are comfortable with mediocrity. No school in the SEC, save vandy and kentucky, is ok with that. That's why OSU is eternally a bridesmaid, and that's why the bride for the last 4 seasons, and probably this season too, is going to be an SEC team.
The Buckeyes are perennial NC contenders because places like Penn State and Michigan-- school sthat OUGHT to be powerhouses-- are comfortable with mediocrity. No school in the SEC, save vandy and kentucky, is ok with that. That's why OSU is eternally a bridesmaid, and that's why the bride for the last 4 seasons, and probably this season too, is going to be an SEC team.
Yes, and Harbaugh is coming to Michigan, and Notre Dame will see the light, and Northwestern is actually a good football team, and you're all going to be leaders and legends next year.
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you gays sound like a couple of ho's.
wrong... it's pretty easy to recruit NC talent when you recruit in the state of Ohio. a state that has some very, very good high school football programs (I would know
). and I would think that Wisconsin would be a little upset over your claim that tOSU is the only team in the Big Ten that has a "big show" (whatever this does mean)wrong again... I dog the Gators for playing very bad football. what they fielded on the grass this year was a joke - can you even argue against this? I would say that your mind is warped, good sir
I would say this is an incorrect and overzealous statement. as much as Michigan has sucked in the recent years, I wouldn't say that they are comfortable in mediocrity. the fact that they have just fired Dick Rod over just three football seasons is an indicator of truth for my statement (I would say it does take at least four years to correctly judge a coach and his progress)
I don't ever, EVER want to stand up for Michigan. because unlike you SEC yokel, I do not cheer for Michigan in bowl games, meaning I do not cheer for my rival. however, Lloyd Carr and even more so Bo Schembechler might be forgotten figures in today's fast paced college football vernacular - but they once were on top of it all not too long ago
the same can't ever be said for Vandy or Kentucky or even your UGA Dawgs (who are on pace to match these aforementioned teams in the realms of perpetual mediocrity)
I wouldn't say that Urban Meyer to tOSU is as far-fetched as you would like. not that I care, I would not take any college football coach over Jim Tressel
and need I remind you that Northwestern almost beat Auburn in OT last year?
don't be upset just because PB and I can have intelligent discussions regarding football, while I don't think I've seen a post of yours go over one sentence
TheLoveBandit
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I am having the hardest f'n time with my Gators. Shit year is right. Send Meyer out with a win ... Yeehaw 
. Muschamp I'll be happy about, but Weis? Charlie f'n fatassed ND reject Weis?!?! I'm talking with pro minded friends saying it is a good thing, that fatass is a great OC just can't handle a head coach job for now (expect him to jump for one again before long). I just can't take a guy who failed so bad, and has that awful ND taint to him being on our staff. Yeah, you can sel recruits on having NFL and superbowl winning staff to prep you for the pros, but I wan to throw up everytime I imagine CW in gator gear on the sideline. Has my wold gone upside down? Does God really hate me? Or am I to take this as a learning opportunity, to grow past my blind ND hate, and things will be ok again?
What is a gator fan to do? It's all so confusing :x
. Muschamp I'll be happy about, but Weis? Charlie f'n fatassed ND reject Weis?!?! I'm talking with pro minded friends saying it is a good thing, that fatass is a great OC just can't handle a head coach job for now (expect him to jump for one again before long). I just can't take a guy who failed so bad, and has that awful ND taint to him being on our staff. Yeah, you can sel recruits on having NFL and superbowl winning staff to prep you for the pros, but I wan to throw up everytime I imagine CW in gator gear on the sideline. Has my wold gone upside down? Does God really hate me? Or am I to take this as a learning opportunity, to grow past my blind ND hate, and things will be ok again?What is a gator fan to do? It's all so confusing :x
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