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I.V mescaline (synthetic HCL)

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Any thoughts on this? I'm wondering if it will allow me to stretch the mescaline I have out further, or increase bioavaliabilty at least.

And please note; this is purely synthetic and estimated at 99.9999% purity. No plant extracts or anything...

I am still concerned about possible negative reactions as I've not heard much about intraveneous mescaline. I have IV'ed small amounts of LSD (100ug-200ug) with no major differenece in effect versus oral, but can't find much on IV mescaline.

I was thinking of trying 100mg's; I can't fit all that much in a single rig anyhow, and I want to start slowly. I would bash in 400MG'S but I'm not going to...

Peace <3 :)
 
i read somewhere that the one death that occured from mescaline was from IV, but i think it was several grams.


edit: and i dont have a source
 
rocker97x said:
i read somewhere that the one death that occured from mescaline was from IV, but i think it was several grams.


edit: and i dont have a source
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Holy GBus...
That is one rush I would not like to experience.
 
rocker97x said:
i read somewhere that the one death that occured from mescaline was from IV, but i think it was several grams.


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I know the case you are talking about. It was some ridiculous number like 7 or 8 grams.

If you want to IV your stuff and it is synthetic I don't see any issues arising. I don't think it will effect the onset much at all though, just stretch your supply a bit. I don't know how much the dosage would change either because I'm not familiar with mescaline oral bioavailability but 100mg obviously shouldn't be too much.

I'm guessing it won't make it that much stronger though. Not many people are lucky enough to have synthetic HCL though.. so one way to find out!

I personally wouldn't do it just because I'm adverse to needles but to each their own :D
 
^ Agreed. Synthetic mescaline seems to be shockingly expensive compared to extracted. But I guess it's all down to who you know as ever.

To be honest, I'd definitely be tempted to IV it if I only had a relatively small amount. I do <3 IV MDMA but most 2C-X are nasty IV... in my mind mescaline seems more similar to MDMA hence the possibility of shooting it seeming a viable one. But these are just random thoughts cos I don't have any synthetic mescaline and may well never see it. I do have some cacti chips I've been meaning to extract from though cos I've never actually tried mescaline at all.
 
Shambles said:
^ Agreed. Synthetic mescaline seems to be shockingly expensive compared to extracted. But I guess it's all down to who you know as ever.

To be honest, I'd definitely be tempted to IV it if I only had a relatively small amount. I do <3 IV MDMA but most 2C-X are nasty IV... in my mind mescaline seems more similar to MDMA hence the possibility of shooting it seeming a viable one. But these are just random thoughts cos I don't have any synthetic mescaline and may well never see it. I do have some cacti chips I've been meaning to extract from though cos I've never actually tried mescaline at all.
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if you have never tried mescaline before I'd drink the tea or evaporate the tea down and cap up the resin left over. I think the overall cactus experience has something pure mescaline is lacking. there are other active (and inactive) alkaloids as well as prodrugs present in the cacti
 
Ligaturd said:
Is this NBOMe-mescaline by any chance?
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Nah, its plain old mescaline.

Matsuo Munefusa. said:
I'd be afraid it was not synthetic but rather semi-synthetic extract. I hope your chemist was good and not a liar to inflate his ego!

I would just eat it. Its a beautiful trip.
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There is that. I am pretty sure it is purely syntheed, but pretty sure isn't quite dead certain.

We'll see...
 
Mescaline is pretty stimulating even when it takes 3 hours to come on orally, so I'd try it rectally as a compromise between oral and IV, first. You should get a pretty big jump in potency without risking the unknowns of IV mescaline. Plus you'd be able to see how reduced onset time changes the qualitative experience, which would allow you to better extrapolate how IV might feel. 300 mg is a lot of any of the, typically caustic, phenethylamines to be in contact with body tissues for very long, though. I wonder if you dissolved it in some of that throat numbing spray instead of water if it would make it less of an assault on your ass.

If you have university library access check out Journal of Nervous & Mental Disease:July/September 1957 - Volume 125 - Issue 3

There are a number of studies in it that injected humans with mescaline intravenously. One in particular, "Biological Changes in Man Following Intravenous Administration of Mescaline," doesn't make it sound too great. Reactions included severe tremor, "intense" paling of the face (during first half hour), blood pressure increases from 1 to 6 "centimeters of mercury" systolic and diastolic (I don't know what this outdated measure corresponds to today), nausea (in almost every case), an average 30 beat per minute jump in heart rate (sustained for four hours), and bluing of the extremities. Granted, this was with a high friggin dose (10 mg per kg!/around 750 mg for the average dude). Many of the reactions were discussed as being indistinguishable from a purely psychological stress reaction to mescaline.

In any case, indications are you won't die, but you'll probably be in a pretty unpleasant state for at least the onset (just like with most IM/IV phenethylamines). If you decide to go ahead with it please report back. I'd start with maybe 120 mg to gauge the reaction. I can imagine staggering the doses being much more pleasant.
 
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Second what psoodonym had to say. Everything I have read/heard indicates that Mescaline i.v isn't gonna be a great experience. I would be quite wary, in that mescaline still has some murky pharmacology, and the fact that even 100 mg is a bit of material, and even just as a substrate for MAO who knows what downstream effects might occur. I think the gradual (beautiful<3) come up allows for an easier transition, in that it feels quite sedate but I can imagine an instant come up would feel pretty stimulated and uneasy.

Try rectal! *Should* be twice as potent, and would still allow for a little more time to adjust. I have been wanting to try this, but I have found precious little info on rectally administered mescaline, save for a few semi-botched and semi-successful attempts with extracted gunk. Let us know!:)
 
Shambles said:
^ Agreed. Synthetic mescaline seems to be shockingly expensive compared to extracted. But I guess it's all down to who you know as ever.
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unless the extraction was poorly done,
how would anyone tell them apart?
 
I don't do too many extractions so I couldn't say this with any kind of certainty, but don't laymen/regular extractions take on a sort of gummy/material appearance because of the material it's derived from, whereas synthetically created compounds have very pure/crystalline appearances?
 
I've been able to extract some pretty yellowish crystals from cactus powder. There were probably other alkaloids besides mescaline in the product, though.
 
^Thats it. I've seen very clean looking extracts, from yellowy-beige to a more white...

What I have is essentially a white powder. Some clumpage, but no discoulration that is noticeable.

I think I may attempt 50mg's just to test the waters. Whatever effects that may have should be pretty mundane I guess. I've dosed this same stuff orally twice now, and its been all kipper. :)
 
Sweet. I'm watching this one to see how it turns out. I've probably booted stuff that's worse on your veins than that so hopefully everything goes smooth. I'd say it's all going to come down to the dose you're wanting to IV. It might make 50mg feel like 100 or even 150 with less duration, it's hard to tell though on such uncharted territories. Good luck mate.
 
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