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Using suboxone recreationally?

i take 3-4mgs a day and i always get a "buzz". its not like any other opiate theres a very slight euphoria, no warmth, and its speedy like oxy except even more so.

im pretty sure the only reason i can get a buzz still is because i take a low dose, as ive talked to a few other people who feel the same way i do.
 
kurt_cocaine said:
i take 3-4mgs a day and i always get a "buzz". its not like any other opiate theres a very slight euphoria, no warmth, and its speedy like oxy except even more so.

im pretty sure the only reason i can get a buzz still is because i take a low dose, as ive talked to a few other people who feel the same way i do.
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i reckon this could be true if you had pretty much no tolerance, or a tiny one before you you start on bupe.
 
when i was addicted to heroin, and was in withdrawl, a friend conned me into snorting 2mg of suboxone, i didnt wanna cuz it looked like candy, so i gave it a try, 15mins later, i was extremely fucked up for about 10hrs..after that all i get is a mood lift when i take it daily, occasional urinary retention as opiates cause, no pinpoint, no euphoria anymore, the 1st time i did it, i got high and it felt good
 
^Just because you were addicted to heroin dosn't mean shit man, if 2mg got you 'extremely fucked up' for 10 hours, you had a small tolerance...

I was doing 400mg of oxycodone a day when i was put on suboxone, i recall like 8mg giving me bit of a sense of wellbeing, excellent pain relief ect. Yeah i felt alright, no where near extremely fucked up through. Bupe isn't even strong enough to get you fucked up unless you have a small tolerance like you obviously did.

I aint sayin having a small tolerance is bad or anything lol, just pointing out that buprenorphine is weak as fuck for getting high, and if you were in withdrawal from a heroin habit and fucking 2 measley mg got you fucked up for 10 hours, you must have had one small tolerance there.

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Although it's all reletive to where ones tolerance is. For someone who mainly uses codeine, buprenorphine could be considered strong to them. These people would get a decent opiate-type buzz from buprenorphine, and given buprenorphines duration, would be quite a nice long high. Although i don't recommend this i've heard from multiple sources that smoking buprenorphine is very good, i myself wouldn't ever smoke a pill.. But yeah also bupe has metabolite that is what produces the euphoric effects, and bupe is an antagonist so yeah, end up with a situation where 'less is more', meaning lower doses are more euphoric than bigger ones. Making buprenorphine one big fucking paradox for daily recreational use, as you can see it's not possible as tolerance inevitably rises and fucks you in the ass.

So basically if you keep your tolerance in the suitable range you can get a nice buzz from buprenorphine, once your tolerance gets too high forget about it, bupe will keep you well and relieve your pain, thats about it.

There is a member of bluelight who goes by the name of 'Captain.Heroin' i think it is. This dude knows his stuff when it comes to buprenorphine use, he has taken the concept of less is more to the extreme, recall reading that he injects microgram amounts of buprenorphine, but it works for him because his tolerance is so low, and the lower the dose the more euphoric the dose is.. i dunno food for thought there.

Buprenorphine is a very peculiar drug, very good as an analgesic, complete peice of shit when it comes to recreational drug, but if you happen to fall within that golden zone, bupe can get you high... I'm going to keep on giving bupe shit though, it's a shit drug!
 
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well pardon me, i was shooting up to 10-15 bags of east coast high grade heroin for quite awhile, when i was detoxing for 2 weeks off of it, i was introduced to suboxone 2mg, to sniff it, to my surprise, i was W.D free and actually high, after that, i decided to get a RX for suboxone, its been 2 yrs i been on it, and i dont get high on it anymore, it only gives me a boost in the morning and kils all my desire to use opiates, i actually was a junkie from 2004-2008, i know my shit when it comes to dope and quality, not to mention, Bupe is sooo much more potent than morphine to let you know...rather the heroin i got was great, which it was, and at times, it wasnt so good, either way bupe is so much more potent that morphine itself, which heroin is morphine anyways Diacetyl-morphine (meaning it crosses the BBB quicker then morphine) same shit..bupe is NOT A SHIT DRUG me personally, it saved my life from the wrath of heroin addiction, im proud to say i been needle free for 2 years, i dont SEEK a high from suboxone , out of my 2yrs taking it, i treat it like a vitamin, i take it everyday as im supposed to...the only positive i get out of it is its anti depressant properties and slight stimulation, im now just hooked on suboxone, still an opioid, clean from all the other opiate crap, i bet so many ppl here tend to disargee bupe is a shit drug...has saved many lives..along with working a program in addition of course
 
8L4YN3 said:
^Just because you were addicted to heroin dosn't mean shit man, if 2mg got you 'extremely fucked up' for 10 hours, you had a small tolerance...

I was doing 400mg of oxycodone a day when i was put on suboxone, i recall like 8mg giving me bit of a sense of wellbeing, excellent pain relief ect. Yeah i felt alright, no where near extremely fucked up through. Bupe isn't even strong enough to get you fucked up unless you have a small tolerance like you obviously did.

I aint sayin having a small tolerance is bad or anything lol, just pointing out that buprenorphine is weak as fuck for getting high, and if you were in withdrawal from a heroin habit and fucking 2 measley mg got you fucked up for 10 hours, you must have had one small tolerance there.

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Although it's all reletive to where ones tolerance is. For someone who mainly uses codeine, buprenorphine could be considered strong to them. These people would get a decent opiate-type buzz from buprenorphine, and given buprenorphines duration, would be quite a nice long high. Although i don't recommend this i've heard from multiple sources that smoking buprenorphine is very good, i myself wouldn't ever smoke a pill.. But yeah also bupe has metabolite that is what produces the euphoric effects, and bupe is an antagonist so yeah, end up with a situation where 'less is more', meaning lower doses are more euphoric than bigger ones. Making buprenorphine one big fucking paradox for daily recreational use, as you can see it's not possible as tolerance inevitably rises and fucks you in the ass.

So basically if you keep your tolerance in the suitable range you can get a nice buzz from buprenorphine, once your tolerance gets too high forget about it, bupe will keep you well and relieve your pain, thats about it.

There is a member of bluelight who goes by the name of 'Captain.Heroin' i think it is. This dude knows his stuff when it comes to buprenorphine use, he has taken the concept of less is more to the extreme, recall reading that he injects microgram amounts of buprenorphine, but it works for him because his tolerance is so low, and the lower the dose the more euphoric the dose is.. i dunno food for thought there.

Buprenorphine is a very peculiar drug, very good as an analgesic, complete peice of shit when it comes to recreational drug, but if you happen to fall within that golden zone, bupe can get you high... I'm going to keep on giving bupe shit though, it's a shit drug!
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PLEASE do not judge me, or even tell me what my tolerance level was, when i was using heroin, i could bang 160mg Oxycontin and not even nod, i've had dope where 2 bags had me nodding out almost in the hospital, ive had dope where it took 4-5bags to get right, my tolerance was FAR from LOW bud, dont base ur experience with suboxone and place it on others and peg them as low tolerance opiate addicts, every1's body is diff, do ur research bupe is extremely powerful, even though its a partial agonist....ugh i been up all night so frusterated, man like i said i was in heroin W/D for 2 weeks, i sniffed 2 mg bupe, was high 10 hrs...after that got RXed and didnt even get euphoric on it anymore, which i dont give a shitt about because it keeps me off of opiates
 
^bump sorry, im on a roll! im on 20mg bupe daily, it actually is good for pain to this day, 8mg is my morning dose, and i feel myself, mood lift, sense of well being,craving-free, totally out f the junkie world now. if it wasnt for suboxone, i'd be in a cemetary now, rather its euphoric or not, to the nieve person or to an addict. im sorry guys if im coming off pissy, i been up all night and i dont like when someone tells me "obviously u didn thave a habit or a tolerance since 2mg bupe got u high while in withdrawl from heroin for 2 weeks" 2mg bupe is very strong, i wonder what the equivalency of say 8mg bupe is to oxycontin mg to mg? i couldnt even catch a nod off of IVing 160mg OXY, or even a nod from heroin anymore, ever since i was stuck in 2 week withdrawl, and friend told me to sniff 2mg bupe, i felt very good, buzzed like i was actually high on a strong opioid, after that experience, it never came back, unless i go months without opiates or bupe, then yeah bupe gets me high, like when i was in jail i was off of it, got back on it, and got high again, but i been on it 2yrs, 20mg daily, i dont get high, just the uplift, fuck the euphoria, it has made me a functional member of society. im done, sorry to offend anyone, i have to go to my sub appt in an hour or two and get my refill, been up all night with my 7month old son, im cranky myelf
 
^Chill out man. Don't get all worked up over what somebody is writing on here.

I agree that suboxone is potent. I would rather take 4mgs of sub instead of an 80 mg of oxy pretty much anyday, unless I had taken a long break from opiates, then I would take the 80.

Suboxone lasts so long, that one of the best parts.
 
my apologizes, i dosed 120mg addy yesterday at noon(cranky, miserable), its now 6am, tried taking 15mg xanax, no relief, and now i have to go to my suboxone doc and get my refill which is a pain in da ass as its way downtown. im also mad because yesterday i got my #90 1mg xanax, and now im done to like 52, i owed my girl 10, and took some, and i want it to last a month, im gonna have to switch baxck to kpin 3x a day this xanax is so short acting, going thru 10 pills a day. ridicolous. it is great, but ill be fucked when i run out, on TOP OF THAT, my doc also wrote my adderall IR 20mg 2x.daily, and the god damn rite-aid pharmacy gave me a partial fill 20 out of 60, and i have to wait TEN days to get me remaining 40 left, if them bastards would of told me they were short i wouls of went elsewhere...agh sorry ppl im just crashing, watin to get my subb refill, and just a lil upset ppl judging my life, tolerance, habit, and my reaction to bupe, as it is a very very strong opioid.
 
I am scripted 2 8mg sub pills daily. I have been on it for about 8 months and every time a friend has tried using my pills recreationally they've almost all vomited at least once, felt some mild sedation and analgesia. I read that buprenorphines ceiling effects for analgesia end at an equivalence of 30mg methadone or about 50mg of oxycodone, however that's speculation, its hard to guauge the exact analgesic limits, and that ceiling effect is NOT in regards to suboxones affinity to opiate receptors so it will still work as the partial agonist addiction med for much higher levels of opioid but the analgesia it provides is reported as limited.

Edit: this is my source for bupes analgesic
http://suboxonetalkzone.com/2008/11/28/pain-control-after-surgery-for-patients-on-suboxone/
 
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Less is more

I've been reading your discussion, and I wanted to add my experience to the mix.

Suboxone can ABSOLUTELY be used recreationally. The key to it is thatwith Suboxone, less is more. What I mean by that is the lower the dose, the more the more agonist activity at the Mu Opiate Receptors.

When I say low dose, I mean less than 1 mg IVed. I typically take about .2 mg to .5 mg at a time. I can't say what that would be sublingually or insufflated, but the more mathematically inclined among you can figure that out.

At higher doses, the antagonist activity will dominate, and you won't get anything out of it save the first one or two times you take it. But if you can achieve a low dose, you can definitely feel Buprenorphine's effect.

For me it's a great drug. It's not an opiate high in the classic sense. I like to describe it as how an antidepressant would ideally work. It increases motivation, social interaction, and gives a contented feeling. At this point, I prefer that to a typically opiate agonist high.

Of course your tolerance has to be very very low for this level to work. In the past I have found it worth it to take a week break from Suboxone (supporter, in the mean time, by Kratom) to lower my tolerance.

Good luck!
 
^i said this shit in my post(the dude who shoots microgram doses of bupe because less is more euphoric), opiatekrzy though just sees my post as an attack on him lol and feels some need to prove himself... fucking chill out man. talk about taking shit personally. No wonder your on benzos.

Thats awesome bupe is doing what it's doing for you. Thats what it's ment to do, and it works heaps good for some people..... But its shit for getting high. I dont give a shit how much adderal you popped and you couldn't get to sleep boo fucking hoo. No one is judging your fucking life, grow some thick skin or lay off the fucking drugs man. Dont try and claim i'm wrong and bupe is good for getting high, because unless you got a small tolerance, and even then, its not exactly desirable compared to nearly any other opioid out there.. No matter what you want to claim. It works good at binding to opiate receptors and keeping you well and not craving(never stopped me craving, was a shit drug with no effect but wellness...), good analgesia, good general mood lift, it has the slightest little tiny high that you cant feel strongly but you definitely can feel it is present, and it is easily encouraged. Mild as hell though.

Suboxone for BMT is great, suboxone for recreation, not so much.

I've used buprenorphine at all dose ranges. Started at 2mg, slowly increased end over time just through the drug being shit for craving i ended up at 32mg as well. And pretty much this drug has such a long half-life that it builds up in your body so much that you cant even feel the change in the amount of bupe in your blood couple hours after you dose... Stay on subs long enough and see what happends, after a while you will just hit a normal feeling and will stay like that. No amount of bupe will make you feel any different. Like now, if you increased your dose it wouldn't get you higher.
 
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Buprenorphine or Suboxone, whatever, has never gotten me high. Methadone fucked my tolerance up. I was switched onto Suboxone directly from Methadone once I tapered down to 30mg. I was switched onto 8mg and did not get me high in any way or form. Basically the withdrawals from the Methadone went away and I got a bit of a lift. I was switched onto 8mg but the odd thing was that I got more of a mood boost from the 2mg I was tapered down to. But anyway, I couldn't understand somebody getting high from it but hey, if you can than all the power to you.
 
suboxone has very euphoric effects when used sparingly, i just have a hard time believing people use MCG's and get high as hell as they claim, but yeah 2mg is perfect to snort to get high all day, if using sparingly, oh and yes i take things very personally when it comes to an opinion of mine and a lot of others (and im not just channelling into the opinions of bluelighters ) yes ur right, no wonder im on benzos off the ass, i have massive social anxiety, and laong ADD, and and depend on amphetamines to get tasks done fast when its important, benzos especially, when i MAY HAVE to GO UPSTATE AGAIN over fines not paid due to finaicial issues with a 7 month old son. my aplogies to whomever i offended. ill come back on bluelight more clearheded and openminded. Ciao
 
8L4YN3 said:
^i said this shit in my post(the dude who shoots microgram doses of bupe because less is more euphoric), opiatekrzy though just sees my post as an attack on him lol and feels some need to prove himself... fucking chill out man. talk about taking shit personally. No wonder your on benzos.

Thats awesome bupe is doing what it's doing for you. Thats what it's ment to do, and it works heaps good for some people..... But its shit for getting high. I dont give a shit how much adderal you popped and you couldn't get to sleep boo fucking hoo. No one is judging your fucking life, grow some thick skin or lay off the fucking drugs man. Dont try and claim i'm wrong and bupe is good for getting high, because unless you got a small tolerance, and even then, its not exactly desirable compared to nearly any other opioid out there.. No matter what you want to claim. It works good at binding to opiate receptors and keeping you well and not craving(never stopped me craving, was a shit drug with no effect but wellness...), good analgesia, good general mood lift, it has the slightest little tiny high that you cant feel strongly but you definitely can feel it is present, and it is easily encouraged. Mild as hell though.

Suboxone for BMT is great, suboxone for recreation, not so much.

I've used buprenorphine at all dose ranges. Started at 2mg, slowly increased end over time just through the drug being shit for craving i ended up at 32mg as well. And pretty much this drug has such a long half-life that it builds up in your body so much that you cant even feel the change in the amount of bupe in your blood couple hours after you dose... Stay on subs long enough and see what happends, after a while you will just hit a normal feeling and will stay like that. No amount of bupe will make you feel any different. Like now, if you increased your dose it wouldn't get you higher.
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listen dude, im not taking to offense to anyof ur sayings. suboxone is great for opiate addicts, it saved my life and got me off of the heroin, 2 yrs clean, i switched to benzos for anxiety, ADD meds, which i abuse, and i betcha alot of peple abuse there RX meds anyway. boo hoo i can sleep off of amphs anyways cuz of my benzzos. and you gave me the best advice yet today so far, LAY OFFF THE DRUGS- YOUR RIGHT!! im over doing it , and see what its doing!, i cant use the excuse of going back to prison, stress of a 7 month old son. Suboxone is great for pain relief, euphpria to a nieve person, and getting off of the opiates, like i said b4 ill come ont his site more open minded, and ill eat some more food too to thicken this skin, ya know amphetamines cuase weight loss. thats all i got to say. im happy, i take 20mg bupe daily, im of off opiates, i just switched to other habits, and do need to lay off the drugs, less may be better 4 some ppl with bupe to avoid nastier W/D, tolerance, adverse side effects...byupe is very potent, more than morphine, be careful every1. any EVERYONE my apologizes ifi offended anyone, im going to bed. goodnight. good day tomorrow!
 
i dont understand it, people swear they can shoot suboxone and not experience PRecip W/D, yet ppl i know in my life IVed suboxone and got sick as a dog, is that because they are already addicted to other opiates, which they were, heroin...? im only dependend on suboxone, so will shooting it cause adverse side effects for me since im only dependent on suboxone, and no other opiates? i hear 2 diff. versions. as far as my comment about people saying they can take MCG's of suboxone and get sky high, i just find it hard to believe unless they never ever touched an opiate in they're life, whoever got there panties in a bunch about my comment about that, it was a post i read somewhere, i know 1-2mg can get ya messed up if u laid off opiates for awhile or using suboxone recreationally.

1. so can i shoot suboxone without the nalexone interation? im not using any other opiates? people say they dont experience precip w/d, other people say that have, unless they were in W/D from opiates and decided to shoot suboxone? help appreciated
 
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