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Speed & Psychedelics - Warnings & HR Methods

I have a friend who swears by taking LSD on his comedowns. This mostly applies to MDMA but also speed too. I have done it, though small doses. Its ok, though it kind of delays the inevitable comedown. Its not something I'm going to do again coz I feel it is only a matter of time before it goes bad.

I'm yet to candyflip but was thinking of trying it soon. Would you need to be in an environment where you can dance or will it be fine to do it doing the normal tripping thing (ie. talking shit at a mates place or going exploring haha)?

Also, what is LSD like to combine with mephedrone? has anyone done it? Is it like candy flipping? I'm not about to run out and try this but am curious to see if others have.

The only thing i take after tripping is half bar of alprazolam. Candyflipping is very nice where ever u are. I prefer a small hit of acid with a regualr dose of MDMA at home or at a club. U dont want to be on a big dose of acid at a rave.

Have done 4mmc with acid before. Altho its fun i have to admit it is very silly mixing RC's with illicit drugs. It doesnt last too long and thats one of the main problems. U want to combine things that synergize.
 
One of the big problems with stimulants is the time-dilation (or contraction) factor; it's very easy to become impatient when speeding. That is an incredibly dangerous state to be in when in posession or under the influence of psychoactive drugs which have cumulative and long-lasting effects.

BT :)
 
Personally i think its very silly to mix any form of stimulant with psychs. I dont know about u guys but i hate feeling stimmy whilst tripping. I prefer to lay back and enjoy the visuals. Last thing i wanna do is move around unless im at a club but thats a whole dif thing.
 
^I think it may also depend on how you react to amphetamines too. I'm scripted dexamphetamine for adult ADD... so amphetamines probably effect me differently to most people. They still increase energy, motivation etc but in a more calming sort of way. Dose high enough though and regardless of any medical conditions and you'll be bouncing off the walls (if not physically, atleast mentally). Speed is speed at the end of the day.
I too am prescribed Dex for ADHD and have a lot of experience combining Dex / other amphetamines and LSD.
Your definitely right about mixing stims and psyches as 'playing with fire'. You really need to know your own mind, tolerances, how drugs effect you amongts lots of other factors. Probably not a good combo for most people. I never used to, but after using acid a bunch of times I tend to get a kick out of feeling almost insane and manic on it, which speed definitely adds to. I must be in a minority though for this. Crashing off amps + tripping = hell.
Add another to your minority list ;)
I think there is a really good point made here, you need to know how you react to each substance individually before a combo can be assessed as a good idea or not and then you have to expect it to be different too.
I have found that people that tend to get increased anxiety from amphetamines are likely to have problems increased when combining LSD and amphetamines. I personally only notice an increase in anxiety (I'm pretty anxious normally) when coming down from amphetamines and find there use to be calming and reduce anxiety.
For me taking a recreational dose of amphetamines and then taking LSD is a lovely experience and one I have often. I have never personally had a problem from this combo.
I'm also one of the few that has never had a lasting bad experience (what most would call a bad trip) whilst on LSD though. I've been in some tricky situations before but I've always come through them feeling better for it.

I've had a bad experience on a combo of amphetamine and 2C-i but my experience with that combo is so limited I wouldn't like to draw any conclusions about it.

Bottom line is combining substances can lead to unexpected results and they are hard to predict. I don't advise it.
Doesn't mean this particular combo is bad for everyone or all the time. Personally I love it. I feel more psychologically open to the wonders of LSD when on amphetamines. I have some strange (uncommon) responses to drugs though and my understanding is most people are likely to not share my experience.
 
Most relevant thread I could find. Has anyone had experience with cokes and psychs? Namely doi, but also interested in experiences I'd coke and LSD. Anything to be concerned about? What's to be expected? Thanks
 
I did a lot of coke while on LSD when I was in North America. The short duration made it a better option than amphetamine or other stimulants. I never ran into trouble with it, but I still wouldn't call the combo safe.

Be careful mixing it with DOI. The DO*'s are pretty stimulating on their own and have known cardiovascular issues.
 
I've had Cocaine while already on LSD numerous times. It does have some of the dangers of other stimulants in that it can turn a bad trip worse and create repetitive thought patterns etc.

I personally have found that Cocaine has levelled me out on large doses of LSD. It almost kills the trip for the duration of the coke high, but as soon as it wears off it's back into hyperspace.

Cocaine & LSD do have potential to go bad, but in my experience nowhere near as much as amphetamines or other long lasting stimulants
 
At a festival during the 09 NYE celebration a friend and I decided it was a good idea to halve a tab, something i'd done a few times, though not in a festival setting. Mind you, i like to consider myself fairly experienced when it comes to LSD. The kicker here was that i'd been awake most of the day drinking alcohol and consuming approximately a gram of amphetamines, as i said before, i thought myself quite experienced and i was at the time, in a good headspace to trip. After consumption i walked down to one of the main stages to listen to some tunes and to wait for the trip to kick in. I was completely sure of myself being able to handle it, however that was not the case. As i started to come up, i turned around noticing i lost all my friends. Let's just say that's when things turned for the worse, i was extremely paranoid, thinking everyone was out to get me, and ran into a foreigner who albeit friendly had me convinced he had a plot to hurt me in some way. These paranoid delusions lasted approximately 2 - 3 hours before i started to regain grips on reality. When the 'peak' died down, i was seemingly fine again.

Saying that though, whilst i did have a ridiculously scary experience in the 2 or 3 hours of the 'peak' I did enjoy myself afterwards.

I wouldn't recommend this combo to anyone. It still astounds me how little a dosage i had to make me flip my egg.
 
I have never intentionally taken speed while on acid.

However I love to candyflip and sometimes the pills have meth or are just plain meth bombs. This usually works out right cause I'm dumping after 3 hours of tripping and the meth in the pill (if lucky) is not akin to say booting up some ice or smoking some serious shards as it was in pill form and I was lucky.

Problems for me in the past occur when for instance I'm at home and dump a lazy pill, then the pill has/is meth then I'm feeling so strong and confident I think "hey the acid in freezer would be great now. I'm so high no trip could bring me out of this great mindset". WRONG.

This has happened to me a few times as the meth brings out the addict in me and I think I can handle some acid or whatever drug is around. This usually results in me going from where ever I am to a room on my own and getting stuck in serious paranoia thought loops etc..

So to second what had already been said I would recommend if you are going to combine... TAKE THE METH AFTER THE PSYCHE.... and make sure you have enough to last the trip so you don't even start to comedown untill you have definitly well and truly peaked.
 
Meth and Acid is an amazingly euphoric experience, but not one for the faint-hearted (both figuratively and literally!)

Takes a strong mind to pull that one off I think, judging by how (not) well my mates held up. I know I certainly enjoyed it!
 
hm explain? oxy on the acid comedown? sounds blissful

On pretty much any comedown I'll dose some opiates. Just amazing. Also, Codeine + Acid is a really interesting experience, seriously nice, but tones down the trip almost. Very curious!
 
I had a beautiful, amazing trip on about ~100mg d-amp IR (oral) spread out mixed with 2 tabs of great LSD. But it's all about not coming down off the stimulant, I kept going after the LSD wore off.... problem solved.

Was a bit loopy... mentally the days after though.
 
Basically, my night went like this:

Half a g of methamphetamine at about 11pm. Taken orally. At about 2.30am I took a tab and a half of rather strong LSD. Stayed up all night, had a brilliant time (including a period where I spend two hours upside down, simply for the "new perspective" it gave me :P). Amazing body rushes. Later that day, I was fairly shattered after the LSD and speed wore off, so I took 30mg of temazepam which levelled me right out. Slept later that night.

My friend didn't fare very well however, the poor bastard. Ended up with me knocking him out with some benzos fairly early-ish, about 8am that day. Be careful with this mix! It's really not for everyone, with good reason!
 
Can't stand speed with psychedelics like mushrooms and lsd, the comedown is usually the worst for me. Seen a few bad trips over the years and by far the worst were when people dosed with meth.

I can imagine a really experienced psychedelic user maybe liking a bit of speed...but for the rest of us, not a good idea.

I've also noticed in the past stimulants tend to reduce the effects of the LSD and mushrooms. Definitely doesn't stop the trip though for me. and with big doses of mushrooms, speed didn't really lesson the trip at all.
 
I can imagine a really experienced psychedelic user maybe liking a bit of speed...but for the rest of us, not a good idea.

This is it in a nutshell, and even then I've seen a really experienced tripper be dropped by this combo. So be careful!
 
First time i tried anything psychedelic was a capsule of some form of 2c on new years after a good 2 points of gear. Turned that into the worst new years iv ever had and put me off ever wanting to trying psychedelics again from the sheer feer of the anxiety im worried ill get.
 
It's highly likely that you will feel that anxiety again as your mind connects the two but using sensibly you can over come that anxiety.
 
First time i tried anything psychedelic was a capsule of some form of 2c on new years after a good 2 points of gear. Turned that into the worst new years iv ever had and put me off ever wanting to trying psychedelics again from the sheer feer of the anxiety im worried ill get.

Taking any psychedelics after coming down from stims is bad. I think psychedelics and ice has brought out my anxiety issues that i have now. I usually get very bad anxiety when coming up on psychs and coming off speed. Its not pleasant to say the least. If u plan to do it next time just stick with one thing and make sure u are in a correct state of mind otherwise u will run into problems.
 
I always thought that it would never me be that had a bad LSD+ METH trip..

Well I was wrong..

NYE turned into the worst experience of my life..

For about 2-3 hours I was stuck in a loop of my worst emotional experiences for the last 3 years, followed by hours of crying and then paranoia..

Lesson learnt - No acid after heavy meth binging..

In fact.. I think I'll be taking a break from everything after that
 
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